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States Minutes 7th July 2004

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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday, 7th July 2004 at 9.30 a.m. under

the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , Michael Cameron St.  John Birt, Esquire.

All members were present with the exception of

S e nator Wendy Kinnard out of the Island

S e nator Paul Vincent Francis Le  Claire – out of the Island

T h omas John du Feu, Connétable of St.  Peter out of the Island D a vid Leon Crespel, Deputy of Trinity out of the Island

M  aurice François Dubras, Deputy of St.  Lawrence – ill

J e remy Laurence Dorey, Deputy of St. Helier ill

F r ancis Gerald Voisin, Deputy of St.  Lawrence – out of the Island L y ndon John Farnham , Deputy of St.  Saviour out of the Island J e nnifer-Anne Bridge, Deputy of St.  Helier – out of the Island

Prayers read by the Greffier of the States. Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES agreed to defer consideration of the following matter set down for consideration at the present meeting –

Public and political access to economic models. P.121/2004. Lodged: 22nd June 2004.

Senator S. Syvret.

Public and political access to economic models (P.121/2004): comments. P.121/2004. Presented: 6th July 2004. Com. Finance and Economics Committee.

Arrangement of public business for the next meeting on 20th July 2004

THE STATES confirmed that the following matters lodged "au Greffe" would be considered at the next meeting on 20th July 2004 –

Fields 181, 182 and 183, St.  Peter: restriction on development. P.133/2004. Lodged: 6th July 2004, and referred to the Environment and Public Services

Committee at the present meeting.

Deputy of St.  Peter.

Public and political access to economic models. P.121/2004. Lodged: 22nd June 2004.

Senator S. Syvret.

Public and political access to economic models (P.121/2004): comments. P.121/2004. Presented: 6th July 2004. Com. Finance and Economics Committee.

Fiscal Strategy – P.106/2004, Comments Amendments P.106/2004.Amd.

THE STATES resumed consideration of amendments of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St.  Helier to the Fiscal Strategy of the Finance and Economics Committee, and rejected paragraph  (1) that inparagraph  (c)(ii), for the words "a target for economic growth of 2% per annum" there be substituted the words "a sustainable annual target for economic growth concomitant with the objective of restraining overall population growth".

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 20 CONTRE: 23 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator J.A. Le  Maistre Senator S. Syvret

Senator E.P.   Vibert

Senator R.J. Shenton Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy A. Breckon (S)

Deputy J.J. Huet (H)

Deputy of St.  Martin

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy P.N. Troy (B)

Deputy R.G. Le  Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St.  Peter

Deputy G.W.J de Faye (H)


Senator L. Norman

Senator F.H. Walker Senator T.A. Le  Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E.   Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St.  Clement Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Deputy of St.  John

Deputy T.J. Le  Main (H) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)

Deputy M.A. Taylor (C) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

THE  STATES  rejected  paragraph (2)  that  paragraph  (d)(ii)  be  deleted  and  that  subsequent  paragraphs  b renumbered accordingly.

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 9 CONTRE: 35 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator J.A. Le  Maistre Senator S. Syvret

Senator E.P.   Vibert

Senator R.J. Shenton Connétable of St. Mary Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H)


Senator L. Norman Senator F.H. Walker Senator T.A. Le  Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E.   Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H)

Deputy of St.  Martin

Deputy of St.  John

Deputy T.J. Le  Main (H) Deputy P.N. Troy (B)

Deputy C.J. Scott - Warr en (S)

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)

Deputy M.A. Taylor (C) Deputy of Grouville Deputy of St.  Peter Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy G.W.J de Faye (H)

THE STATES rejected paragraph (3) that in paragraph (d)(iii), after the words"payroll tax" there be inserted the words "further changes to income tax, wealth taxes".

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 13 CONTRE: 31 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator J.A. Le  Maistre Senator S. Syvret

Senator E.P.   Vibert

Senator R.J. Shenton Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy A. Breckon (S)

Deputy of St.  Martin

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy P.N. Troy (B)

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)


Senator L. Norman

Senator F.H. Walker

Senator T.A. Le  Sueur Senator P.F. Routier

Senator M.E.   Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Deputy J.J. Huet (H)

Deputy of St.  John

Deputy T.J. Le Main (H) Deputy C.J. Scott - Warr en (S)

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B)

Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)

Deputy M.A. Taylor (C) Deputy of Grouville Deputy of St.  Peter Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy G.W.J de Faye (H)

THE STATES rejected paragraph  (4) that before paragraph  (e), there be inserted the following new paragraph–

" to   c h a r g e t he Employment and Social Security Committee, in consultation with the Finance and Economics Committee, to bring forward to the States for approval proposals to reduce or eliminate the requirement for the supplementation of social security contributions from general tax revenues."

an d r enumber the subsequent paragraph accordingly.

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 18 CONTRE: 26 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator J.A. Le  Maistre Senator S. Syvret

Senator L. Norman Senator E.P.   Vibert Senator R.J. Shenton Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Helier Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy of St.  Martin

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C)

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St.  Peter

Deputy G.W.J de Faye (H)


Senator F.H. Walker Senator T.A. Le  Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E.   Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy of St.  John

Deputy T.J. Le Main (H) Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy C.J. Scott - Warr en (S)

Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)

Deputy M.A. Taylor (C) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

THE STATES, following further consideration of the proposition of the Finance and Economics Committee concerning the Fiscal Strategy, and in accordance with the decision of the States on 26th May 2004, adopted a proposition of Senator Jean Amy Le  Maistre that the question be now put.

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 30 CONTRE: 9 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator J.A. Le  Maistre Senator F.H. Walker Senator T.A. Le  Sueur Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator E.P.   Vibert

Senator R.J. Shenton Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy of St.  Martin Deputy of St.  John

Deputy T.J. Le  Main (H) Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy C.J. Scott - Warr en (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)


Senator S. Syvret

Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E.   Vibert Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy R.G. Le  Hérissier (S)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B) Deputy of Grouville Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H)

Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)

Deputy M.A. Taylor (C) Deputy of St.  Peter Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

THE STATES adopted paragraph  (a) of the proposition of the Finance and Economics Committee concerning the Fiscal Strategy, and agreed, in order to maintain a strong and competitive economy, that a 0% standard rate of corporate profits taxation and a  10% rate of corporate profits taxation  for  companies in particular  sectors, including financial services, be introduced by no later than 1st January 2008, and charged the Finance and Economics Committee to bring forward for approval by the States the necessary legislation to give effect to the proposal.

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 38 CONTRE: 4 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator J.A. Le  Maistre Senator S. Syvret

Senator L. Norman Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Senator F.H. Walker Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Senator T.A. Le  Sueur Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Senator P.F. Routier

Senator M.E.   Vibert

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator E.P.   Vibert

Senator R.J. Shenton Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John

Deputy A. Breckon (S)

Deputy J.J. Huet (H)

Deputy of St.  Martin

Deputy of St.  John

Deputy T.J. Le  Main (H) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy P.N. Troy (B)

Deputy C.J. Scott - Warr en (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)

Deputy M.A. Taylor (C) Deputy of Grouville Deputy of St.  Peter Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy G.W.J de Faye (H)

THE STATES adopted paragraphs (b), (c), (d) and (e) of the proposition, and

1 .  c harged the Finance and Economics Committee to research measures to mitigate the loss of taxation

revenues as a result of the changes to the corporate taxation structure in paragraph  (a) above, without damaging the competitiveness of the Jersey economy, such measures to include –

(i ) ta xation provisions requiring Jersey resident participators to pay personal taxation based upon the

profits of the Jersey companies accruing to them as a result of their direct or indirect ownership of those companies;

(i i) m echanisms for withholding tax from non-resident shareholders of local trading companies;

(i ii )  d eveloping such anti-avoidance measures as may be necessary to enforce (b)(i) and (b)(ii) above; an d t o bring forward detailed proposals for consideration by the States by February 2005;

 2 .   a greed an overall strategy for addressing the funding deficit arising from (a) above, yet not fully

mitigated by (b) above, specifically –

(i ) ag reed that the annual increase in total States' net expenditure should be limited to 1% less than the

underlying increase in the Retail Price s Index for each of the years 2005 to 2009 and varied their decision of 18th September 2003 in P.118/2003 (Resource Plan 2004-8) accordingly;

(i i ) a greed that a target for economic growth of 2% per annum should be set for the period 2005 to

2009 and requested the Economic Development Committee, in conjunction with other Committees as necessary, to bring forward, for approval by the States, a strategy for delivery of this growth by February 2005;

(i ii ) a greed in principle that, in order to balance States' income and expenditure, any remaining budget

deficit arising be addressed by taxation measures, to be implemented by no later than 1st January 2008;

3 .  i n connection with introducing a package of new tax measures which would be broadly progressive to

balance the States' income and expenditure –

(i ) a greed to the introduction of an Income Tax Instalment System (I.T.I.S.) and charged the Finance

and Economics Committee to bring forward detailed proposals to the States to enable the system to be implemented from 1st January 2006;

(i i) a greed in principle that tax allowances for taxpayers on high incomes be phased out and charged

the Finance and Economics Committee to bring forward detailed proposals to give effect to the proposal as part of the 2005 budget;

(i i i) c harged the Finance and Economics Committee to undertake further research into a goods and

services tax, a payroll tax, environmental taxes, development levies and further tax enforcement measures in order to investigate the feasibility of their introduction, and to bring forward details to the States with recommendations for approval by February 2005; and,

4 .  c harged the Finance and Economics and Employment and Social Security Committees, in consultation

with other Committees as appropriate, to take steps to ensure that the effect of any new tax proposals on those with low incomes could be mitigated by the prior or simultaneous implementation of a new income support scheme.

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 34 CONTRE: 8 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L. Norman

Senator F.H. Walker

Senator T.A. Le  Sueur Senator P.F. Routier

Senator M.E.   Vibert

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H)

Deputy of St.  Martin Deputy of St.  John

Deputy T.J. Le  Main (H) Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy C.J. Scott - Warr en (S)


Senator J.A. Le  Maistre Senator S. Syvret

Senator E.P.   Vibert

Senator R.J. Shenton Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)

Deputy M.A. Taylor (C) Deputy of Grouville Deputy of St.  Peter Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy G.W.J de Faye (H)

Changes in Presidency

The Deputy Bailiff retired from the Chair during consideration of the proposition of the Finance and Economics Committee concerning the Fiscal Strategy, (P.106/2004 lodged "au Greffe" on 1st June 2004), and the meeting continued under the presidency of the Bailiff .

The Bailiff subsequently retired from the Chair during further consideration of the proposition of the Finance and Economics Committee concerning the Fiscal Strategy, (P.106/2004 lodged "au Greffe" on 1st June 2004), and prior to the proposition of Senator Jean Amy Le Maistre that the matter be now put, and the meeting continued under the presidency of Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, Greffier of the States.

Shadow Public Accounts Committee revised membership – P.116/2004

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Privileges and Procedures Committee, referred to their Act dated 27th January 2004, in which they agreed that the Shadow Public Accounts Committee should be established from 1st February 2004, and agreed the terms of reference and constitution of the Committee, and agreed that the composition of the Shadow Public Accounts Committee should be amended with immediate effect to include 2  additional States members, not being Presidents of Committees or members of the Finance and Economics Committee or Privileges and Procedures Committee, with the additional members being appointed by the States on the nomination of the Shadow Chairman of the Committee.

Commissioners or Appeal for Income Tax: appointment – P.118/2004

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Finance and Economics Committee, and in accordance with Article 10 of the Income Tax (Jersey) Law 1961, as amended, approved the appointment as Commissioners of Appeal for Income Tax for a period of three years of

M r . P h il ip J . Barber

M r . C h a rl e s R. Blampied M i s s . Ja c q u e line B. Collins M r . P e te r G  . Farley

M r . Jo h n M  . King

M r . N i g el G . Pritchard

M r s . C  . E li z abeth Rees

M r . Ja m  e s S haw.

Draft Taxation (Implementation) (Jersey) Law 200- P.122/2004

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Taxation (Implementation) (Jersey) Law 200-.

THE STATES rose at 4.40 p.m.

M.N. DE LA HAYE Greffier of the States.