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States Minutes 20th September 2005

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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday

20th September 2005, at 9.30 a.m. under

the Presidency of Mr.  Michael Nelson de la Haye,

Greffier of the States.

His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor,

Air Chief Marshal Sir John Cheshire, K.B.E., C.B., was present.

All members were present with the exception of

S e nator Jean Amy Le  Maistre – out of the Island

S e nator Frank Harris on Walker – ill

J o hn Baudains Germain, Connétable of St.  Martin – out of the Island A l an Simon Crowcroft , Connétable of St.  Helier – out of the Island J o hn Le  Sueur Gallichan, Connétable of Trinity out of the Island D a niel Joseph Murphy, Connétable of Grouville – out of the Island J a cqueline Jeannette Huet, Deputy of St.  Helier – out of the Island

T e rence John Le  Main, Deputy of St.  Helier–  out of the Island

P e ter Nicholas Troy , Deputy of St.  Brelade – ill.

Prayers read by the Acting Dean of Jersey.

Matters presented

The following matters were presented to the States

Privileges and Procedures Committee: complaint against the Connétable of R.C.72/2005. St.  Helier.

Presented by the Privileges and Procedures Committee.

Jersey Library Annual Report 2004. R.C.73/2005. Presented by the Education, Sport and Culture Committee.

The Jersey Child Care Trust: Report and Financial Statements at 31st December R.C.74/2005. 2004.

Presented by the Education, Sport and Culture Committee.

Public Records (Jersey) Law 2002: report on the application of the Law during R.C.75/2005. 2004.

Presented by the Education, Sport and Culture Committee.

THE STATES ordered that the said reports be printed and distributed.

Matters lodged

The following matters were lodged "au Greffe"

Draft Standing Orders of the States of Jersey (P.162/2005): fourth amendments. P.162/2005. Presented by Senator S. Syvret. Amd.(4) Strategic Travel and Transport Plan (P.174/2005): second amendment. P.174/2005. Presented by Deputy M.F. Dubras of St.  Lawrence. Amd.(2)

Draft Corruption (Jersey) Law 200-. P.198/2005. Presented by the Home Affairs Committee.

Meetings of the States in 2006. P.199/2005. Presented by the Privileges and Procedures Committee.

Meetings of the States in 2006 (P.199/2005): amendment. P.199/2005. Presented by Deputy of St. Martin. Amd.

Jersey Police Complaints Authority: appointment of chairman. P.200/2005. Presented by the Home Affairs Committee.

Criminal Justice Policy. P.201/2005. Presented by the Home Affairs Committee.

Multi storey car parks: improved safety measures. P.202/2005. Presented by Deputy J.A. Bridge of St.  Helier, and referred to the Health and

Social Services, the Home Affairs and the Environment and Public Services

Committees.

Arrangement of public business for the next meeting on 27th September 2005

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Senator Stuart Syvret, confirmed that the following matter lodged "au Greffe" would be considered at the next meeting on 27th September 2005 –

Goods and Services Tax: exempt or zero rated items. P.165/2005. Lodged: 16th August 2005.

Senator S. Syvret.

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 26 CONTRE: 15 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S. Syvret

Senator L. Norman

Senator W. Kinnard

Senator P.V.F. Le  Claire Senator R.J. Shenton Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. John

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy A. Breckon (S)

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.L. Dorey (H)

Deputy C.J. Scott   Warr en (S) Deputy R.G. Le  Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J-A. Bridge (H)


Senator T.A. Le  Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E.   Vibert Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St.  Martin Deputy of St.  John

Deputy M.F. Dubras (L) Deputy F.G. Voisin (L) Deputy L.J. Farnham (S) Deputy of St.  Mary

Deputy of St.  Ouen

Deputy M.A. Taylor (C) Deputy G.W.J. de  Faye (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy of St.  Peter Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

THE STATES confirmed that the following matter lodged "au Greffe" would be considered at the next meeting on 27th September 2005

Draft States of Jersey (Amendment No.  4) Law 200-. P.193/2005. Lodged: 6th September 2005.

Senator S. Syvret.

Draft States of Jersey (Amendment No.  4) Law 200- (P.193/2005): amendments. P.193/2005. Lodged: 13th September 2005. Amd. Deputy J.L. Dorey of St.  Helier.

THE STATES granted leave to Senator Richard Joseph Shenton to defer consideration of the following matter set down for consideration at the next meeting on 27th September 2005

Development of Fostering and Adoption Services in Jersey. P.166/2005. Lodged: 23rd August 2005.

Senator R.J. Shenton.

Development of a Cultural Strategy for the Island P.154/2005 Comments

THE  STATES  commenced  consideration  of  a  proposition  of  the  Education,  Sport  and  Culture  Committee regarding the development of a Cultural Strategy for the Island and, following consideration, Senator Leonard Norman sought leave to propose that the matter be referred back to the Committee. The President ruled that, in accordance with Standing Order  26(1), the effect of such a proposition would be to negative the question and it was therefore disallowed.

THE STATES, following further consideration, rejected a proposition of the Deputy of St.  Martin that the matter be referred back to the Committee.

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 10 CONTRE: 29 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L. Norman

Connétable of St. Brelade Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy A. Breckon (S)

Deputy of St.  Martin

Deputy of St.  John

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.L. Dorey (H)

Deputy R.G. Le  Hérissier (S) Deputy of St.  Peter


Senator S. Syvret

Senator W. Kinnard Senator T.A. Le  Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E.   Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator R.J. Shenton Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. John

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy M.F. Dubras (L) Deputy F.G. Voisin (L)

Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S) Deputy L.J. Farnham (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J-A. Bridge (H) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St.  Mary

Deputy of St.  Ouen

Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy G.W.J. de  Faye (H)

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Education, Sport and Culture Committee, received the report of the Education, Sport and Culture Committee updated 5th July 2005, entitled The Development of a Cultural Strategy for the Island' as a strategy for cultural development within the Island and –

( a ) adopted the Vision and Mission as set out in Section  4 of the report and Key Aims and Objectives of the

proposed cultural strategy as set out in Section  5;

( b ) approved the measures recommended by the Education, Sport and Culture Committee with regard to the

relationship between cultural organisations and the Committee as set out in Section  6 of the report; and,

( c ) approved the creation of a new Jersey Council for Culture as set out in Section  6 of the report. Members present voted as follows

POUR: 24 CONTRE: 20 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S. Syvret

Senator F.H. Walker

Senator W. Kinnard

Senator T.A. Le  Sueur

Senator P.V.F. Le  Claire Senator P.F. Routier

Senator M.E.   Vibert

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. John

Deputy of St.  Martin

Deputy F.G. Voisin (L)

Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S) Deputy L.J. Farnham (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B) Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)


Senator L. Norman

Senator R.J. Shenton Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St.   Trinity

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy A. Breckon (S)

Deputy of St.  John

Deputy M.F. Dubras (L) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.L. Dorey (H)

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J-A. Bridge (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St.  Ouen

Deputy M.A. Taylor (C) Deputy of St.  Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy G.W.J. de  Faye (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Draft Public Finances (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 200- P.133/2005 Comments

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Public Finances (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 200-.

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 32 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator S. Syvret Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Senator L. Norman

Senator F.H. Walker

Senator W. Kinnard

Senator T.A. Le  Sueur

Senator P.V.F. Le  Claire

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator R.J. Shenton

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy A. Breckon (S)

Deputy of St.  John

Deputy M.F. Dubras (L)

Deputy J.L. Dorey (H)

Deputy C.J. Scott   Warr en (S)

Deputy L.J. Farnham (S)

Deputy R.G. Le  Hérissier (S)

Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B)

Deputy of St.  Mary

Deputy of St.  Ouen

Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)

Deputy M.A. Taylor (C)

Deputy of St.  Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy G.W.J. de  Faye (H)

Draft States of Jersey (Amendment No.  3) (Jersey) Law 200- P.143/2005

THE STATES commenced consideration of the preamble to the draft States of Jersey (Amendment No.  3) (Jersey) Law 200-, and then adjourned.

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 21st September 2005, in order to resume consideration of the draft States of Jersey (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Law 200-, (P.143/2005 lodged "au Greffe" on 5th July 2005), together with the outstanding matters of public business.

THE STATES rose at 5.45 p.m.

A.H. HARRIS Deputy Greffier of the States.