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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday, 8th March 2005 at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,
Sir Philip Bailhache .
His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor,
Air Chief Marshal Sir John Cheshire, K.B.E., C.B., was present.
All members were present with the exception of –
S e nator Frank Harris on Walker – out of the Island
S e nator Wendy Kinnard – out of the Island
S e nator Richard Joseph Shenton – ill
J o hn Baudains Germain, Connétable of St. Martin – ill
K e nneth Priaulx Vibert , Connétable of St. Ouen– ill
G e offrey William Fisher, Connétable of St. Lawrence – out of the Island M aurice François Dubras, Deputy of St. Lawrence – out of the Island
F r ancis Gerald Voisin, Deputy of St. Lawrence – out of the Island.
Prayers
Subordinate legislation tabled
The following enactment was laid before the States, namely –
Road Traffic (Saint John) (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Order 2005. R&O 16/2005. Environment and Public Services Committee.
Matters presented
The following matters were presented to the States –
Births, marriages and deaths in 2004: statement. R.C.10/2005. Presented by the Home Affairs Committee.
States of Jersey Law 1966, as amended: delegation of functions – Prison Officers R.C.11/2005. (Jersey) Regulations 1957.
Presented by the Home Affairs Committee.
Draft Employment (Jersey) Law 2003 (Appointed Day) Act 200- (P.18/2005): P.18/2005. Com. comments.
Presented by the Finance and Economics Committee.
Draft Employment Relations (Jersey) Law 200- (P.19/2005): comments. P.19/2005. Com. Presented by the Finance and Economics Committee.
THE STATES ordered that the said reports be printed and distributed.
Matters lodged
The following matters were lodged "au Greffe" –
Draft Sea Fisheries (Minimum Size Limits) (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) P.41/2005. Regulations 200-.
Presented by the Environment and Public Services Committee.
Projet de Loi (Amendement No. 5) sur la Propriété Foncière. P.42/2005. Presenté par le Comité de Législation.
Draft Policing of Parks (Jersey) Regulations 200-. P.43/2005. Presented by the Environment and Public Services Committee.
Fiscal Strategy. P.44/2005. Presented by the Finance and Economics Committee.
Housing Rent Subsidy Scheme: disregard to long-term incapacity allowance – P.6/2005 Comments
THE STATES rejected a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier requesting that they instruct the Housing Committee to disregard the Long-Term Incapacity Allowance in calculating tenants' contributions under the private and public sector rent support schemes with effect from 1st April 2005.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 17 CONTRE: 25 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator J.A. Le Maistre Senator S. Syvret
Senator P.V.F. Le Claire Senator E.P. Vibert
Deputy A. Breckon (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy C.J. Scott - Warr en (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy G.W.J de Faye (H)
Senator L. Norman Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E. Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Deputy of Trinity
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy T.J. Le Main (H) Deputy J.L. Dorey (H) Deputy P.N. Troy (B)
Deputy J-A. Bridge (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)
Deputy Michael Andrew Taylor of St. Clement declared an interest and withdrew from the Chamber prior to the consideration of this matter.
Field 812A, Bagot Manor Farm, St. Saviour: rezoning – P.12/2005
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Environment and Public Services Committee, referred to their Act of 10th July 2002, in which they approved the Island Plan 2002 and identified, under Policy H3, Field 812A St. Saviour as a site for further consideration for Category A housing, and to now agree to rezone this site fo Category A housing in order to provide first-time buyers and social rented housing.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 40 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator J.A. Le Maistre Deputy C.J. Scott - Warr en
(S)
Senator S. Syvret
Senator L. Norman Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.V.F. Le Claire Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E. Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator E.P. Vibert Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Deputy of Trinity
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. John Deputy T.J. Le Main (H) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C)
Deputy J.L. Dorey (H)
Deputy L.J. Farnham (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J-A. Bridge (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy M.A. Taylor (C) Deputy of Grouville Deputy of St. Peter Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy G.W.J de Faye (H)
Change in Presidency
The Bailiff retired from the Chair during consideration of the proposition of the Environment and Public Services Committee regarding Field 812A, Bagot Manor Farm, St. Saviour: rezoning, (P.12/2005 lodged"au Greffe" on 25th January 2005), and the meeting continued under the Presidency of Mrs. Anne Helen Harris , Deputy Greffier of the States.
Environment Committee: establishment – P.13/2005 Comments
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Gerard Clifford Lemmens Baudains of St. Clement regarding the establishment of an Environment Committee, and, following discussion, adopted a proposition of the Deputy of St. John that, in accordance Standing Order 26A(1), the question be now put.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 24 CONTRE: 15 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator J.A. Le Maistre Senator S. Syvret Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator L. Norman
Senator E.P. Vibert Senator P.V.F. Le Claire
Connétable of St. Saviour Senator M.E. Vibert
Connétable of St. Mary Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Helier Deputy J.J. Huet (H)
Connétable of Trinity Deputy of St. Martin
Connétable of Grouville Deputy C.J. Scott - Warr en
(S)
Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of Trinity Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. John Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy T.J. Le Main (H) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy G.W.J de Faye (H)
Deputy L.J. Farnham (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J-A. Bridge (H)
Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B)
Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)
THE STATES rejected the proposition of Deputy Gerard Clifford Lemmens Baudains of St. Clement requesting that they –
( a ) agree that a new Committee of the States, to be known as the Environment Committee', should be
established as soon as practicable to assume the functions currently undertaken by the Environment and Public Services Committee in relation to planning and environmental matters;
( b ) agree that, from the date of establishment of the new Committee, and the associated transfer of functions,
the present Environment and Public Services Committee should be renamed the Public Services Committee';
( c ) charge –
( i) t h e Policy and Resources Committee to bring forward for approval the necessary Transfer of
Functions Act; and
(i i) th e Privileges and Procedures Committee to bring forward for approval the necessary amendments
to the Standing Orders of the States;
to g iv e effect to the proposal.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 19 CONTRE: 24 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator J.A. Le Maistre Senator L. Norman Deputy J.L. Dorey (H) Senator S. Syvret Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.V.F. Le Claire Senator P.F. Routier
Senator E.P. Vibert Senator M.E. Vibert
Connétable of St. Mary Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Connétable of St. John
Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy of St. John Deputy J.J. Huet (H)
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains Deputy of St. Martin
(C)
Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy T.J. Le Main (H)
Deputy C.J. Scott - Warr en (S) Deputy L.J. Farnham (S)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Bernstein (B) Deputy J-A. Bridge (H)
Deputy of St. Peter Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B)
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)
Deputy M.A. Taylor (C) Deputy of Grouville Deputy G.W.J de Faye (H)
Change in Presidency
The Deputy Bailiff assumed the Presidency prior to the consideration of the proposition of Deputy Gerard Clifford Lemmens Baudains of St. Clement regarding the establishment of an Environment Committee, (P.13/2005 lodged "au Greffe" on 25th January 2005), and the meeting continued under his Presidency.
THE STATES rose at 5.10 p.m.
A.H. HARRIS Deputy Greffier of the States.