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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 9th September 2008, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,
Sir Philip Bailhache .
All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
S e nator Terence John Le Main – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.40 a.m.)
S e nator Frederick Ellyer Cohen – en défaut (défaut raised at 11.28 a.m.)
C o nnétable Alan Simon Crowcroft of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.25 a.m.) D e puty Patrick John Dennis Ryan of St. Helier – ill
Prayers read by the Deputy Greffier of the States
Subordinate enactments tabled
The following enactment was tabled, namely –
Proceeds of Crime (Supervisory Bodies) (Designation of Supervisory Bodies) R&O.107/2008. (Jersey) Order 2008.
Minister for Economic Development.
Documents presented or laid
Annual Business Plan 2009 (P.113/2008): second amendment (P.113/2008 Amd.(2)) – P.113/2008. comments. Amd.(2). Presented: 9th September 2008. Com. Minister for Economic Development.
Annual Business Plan 2009 (P.113/2008): eleventh amendment (P.113/2008 Amd. P.113/2008. (11)) – comments. Amd.(11). Presented: 9th September 2008. Com. Minister for Transport and Technical Services.
Composting site, La Collette, St. Helier: cessation of operation (P.133/2008)– P.133/2008. comments. Com. Presented: 9th September 2008.
Minister for Transport and Technical Services.
Public Accounts Committee Report on the Accounts of the States for the year ended P.A.C.4/2008. 31st December 2007.
Presented: 9th September 2008.
Public Accounts Committee.
Notification of lodged propositions
Draft Foundations (Jersey) Law 200-. P.143/2008. Lodged: 9th September 2008.
Minister for Economic Development.
Draft Income Support (Special Payments) (Cold Weather Payments) (Amendment) P.144/2008. (Jersey) Regulations 200-.
Lodged: 9th September 2008.
Minister for Social Security.
Draft States of Jersey (Powers, Privileges and Immunities) (Scrutiny panels, PAC and P.145/2008. PPC) (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 200-.
Lodged: 9th September 2008.
Privileges and Procedures Committee.
Committee of Inquiry: Toxic Incinerator Ash Dumping in the St. Helier Waterfront Land Reclamation Schemes P.96/2008
THE STATES resumed consideration of a proposition of Senator Stuart Syvret concerning the establishment of a Committee of Inquiry into the dumping of Toxic Incinerator Ash in the St. Helier Waterfront Land Reclamation Schemes and rejected the proposed establishment of a Committee of Inquiry in accordance with Standing Order 146, in order to examine all matters relating to the handling and dumping of toxic ash from the Island's municipal waste incinerator into the marine land reclamation sites and other areas; and, specifically –
(a ) to examine the breakdown in public administration which enabled the irresponsible and unsafe
dumping of the toxic ash and to examine why this was able to occur and to consider what improvements and safeguards should be introduced in order to ensure that public administration is subject to effective checks and balances;
(b ) to consider what, if any, additional monitoring and precautions should be introduced to safeguard
human health from the toxins within the reclamation sites;
(c ) to consider what, if any, additional measures should be taken to protect the marine environment
from the toxins within the reclamation sites;
(d ) to consider whether States departments placed Jersey – and by extension the United Kingdom – in
a position in which it had breached its obligations under the OSPAR Convention as a result of the dumping;
( e) to examine and report on any related matters which the Committee considered relevant to its
inquiry.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 13 CONTRE: 37 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Senator L. Norman
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E. Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Draft Water Resources (Jersey) Law 2007 (Appointed Day) Act 200- P.105/2008
THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 54(2) of the Water Resources (Jersey) Law 2007, made an Act entitled the Water Resources (Jersey) Law 2007 (Appointed Day) Act 2008.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 33 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator L. Norman Deputy of St. Martin Senator W. Kinnard Deputy G.C.L. Baudains
(C)
Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E. Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H)
Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Change of Presidency
The Bailiff retired from the Chair during consideration of the Draft Water Resources (Jersey) Law 2007 (Appointed Day) Act 200- and the meeting continued under the Presidency of Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye Greffier of the States.
Rent Control Tribunal: appointment of Chairman and Members P.106/2008
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for Housing, agreed, in pursuance of paragraph (1) of Article 3 of the Dwelling Houses (Rent Control) (Jersey) Law 1946, as amended, to appoint the following persons to act as Chairman and Members of the Rent Control Tribunal for a period ending on 12th April 2009, namely –
Mr. Eric Henry Le Ruez– Chairman Mr. Edward George Trevor MBE Mr. Jeremy James Robin Johnson Mrs. Mary Margaret Gaiger.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 37 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator L. Norman Deputy G.C.L. Baudains
(C)
Senator W. Kinnard Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator M.E. Vibert
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator J.L. Perchard
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. Mary
Bailiff of Jersey: cessation of dual rôle P.112/2008
THE STATES rejected a proposition of Deputy Shona Pitman of St. Helier –
(a ) to agree in principle that the dual rôle of the Bailiff as both President of the States and President of
the Royal Court should cease and that the Bailiff and Deputy Bailiff should be replaced as Presiding Officers of the States by an elected Speaker and Deputy Speaker;
(b ) to charge the Privileges and Procedures Committee to bring forward for approval the necessary
legislation and to report on the financial implications of giving effect to the decision so that the Speaker could be elected no later than after the elections in 2011.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 5 CONTRE: 46 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator S. Syvret Senator L. Norman Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Senator F.H. Walker
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Senator W. Kinnard
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Deputy S. Pitman (H) Senator P.F. Routier
Senator M.E. Vibert
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator J.L. Perchard
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Planning and Environment: division into 2 ministerial offices P.114/2008.
THE STATES rejected a proposition of Deputy Paul Vincent Francis Le Claire of St. Helierto request the Chief Minister to bring forward for approval the necessary Regulations under the States of Jersey Law 2005 to allow for the division of the ministerial office of Planning and Environment into 2 ministerial offices to be known as the Minister for Planning and the Minister for the Environment.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 14 CONTRE: 34 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret Senator L. Norman Connétable of St. Mary Senator F.H. Walker Connétable of St. Clement Senator W. Kinnard Connétable of St. Helier Senator T.A. Le Sueur Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Senator P.F. Routier Deputy A. Breckon (S) Senator M.E. Vibert Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L)
Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy of St. John
Senator T.J. Le Main Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator F.E. Cohen Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Declaration of interest
In accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(1)(c), Deputy Peter Nicholas Troy of St. Brelade and Deputy John Alexander Le Fondré of St. Lawrence declared an interest but remained in the Chamber for th duration of the debate.
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 10th September 2008, to consider the outstanding items of public business.
THE STATES rose at 5.32 p.m.
A.H. HARRIS Deputy Greffier of the States