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States Minutes 25th February 2009

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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 25th February 2009, at 09.30  a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,

Sir Philip Bailhache .

All members were present at roll call with the exception of

S e nator Stuart Syvret – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.59  a.m.)

S e nator Paul Francis Routier en défaut (défaut raised at 2.16  p.m.)

S e nator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.57  a.m.)

S e nator Terence John Le  Main – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.57  a.m.)

S e nator Frederick Ellyer Cohen – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.57  a.m.)

C o nnétable Alan Simon Crowcroft of St.  Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.38  a.m.)

C o nnétable Silvanus Arthur Yates of St.  Martin – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.57  a.m.)

C o nnétable Peter Frederick Maurice Hanning of St.  Saviour en défaut (défaut raised at 9.57  a.m.) D e puty Collin Hedley Egré of St.  Peter – ill

Prayers read by the Greffier of the States

Energy from Waste facility: rescindment P.8/2009

THE STATES, having resumed consideration of a proposition of the Deputy of St.  Mary concerning the proposed rescindment of the Energy from Waste facility, as amended, rejected a proposition of Senator James Leslie Perchard that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 84, the debate be closed.

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 22 CONTRE: 27 ABSTAIN: 1

Senator T.A. Le  Sueur Senator S. Syvret Connétable of St. Brelade Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator P.F. Routier

Senator T.J. Le  Main Senator A. Breckon

Senator F.E. Cohen Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator A.J.D. Maclean

Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Connétable of St. Clement Deputy of St.  Martin

Connétable of St. Peter Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy R.G. Le  Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy of St.  Ouen

Deputy J.A.N. Le  Fondré (L) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of Trinity Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy P.V.F. Le  Claire (H)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy of  St.  John Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy of St.  Mary

Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D. De  Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES rejected a proposition of the Deputy of St.  Mary, as amended, to –

re f e r to their Act dated 9th July 2008, in which they referred to their Act dated 13th July 2005 relating to

the  approval  of  a  new  solid  waste  strategy;  and  then  approved  the  replacement  of  the  Bellozanne incinerator by an Energy from Waste facility, as set out in sections 8 and 10.1 of the Report of the Transport and Technical Services Department dated 20th May 2008 (P.72/2008), and authorised the Minister for Transport and Technical Services to accept the tender of the preferred bidder subject to the approval  of  the  withdrawal  from  the  Consolidated  Fund  of  an  additional £102,810,000  for  that department's capital expenditure; and

(a ) re s cind their decision relating to the Energy from Waste facility and to request the Minister for

Transport and Technical Services to take immediate action to cancel the contract for the plant which was signed and sealed on 14th November 2008 with CSBC (Jersey) Limited;

(b ) re q uest the Minister for Transport and Technical Services, in conjunction with the Minister for

Treasury and Resources, to take all necessary steps to reduce the financial consequences of cancellation in the best manner possible for the States and the Island; and,

(c ) re q uest the Minister for Transport and Technical Services to present to the Assembly as soon as

possible, and in any case no later than 3 months from the date of approval of this proposition, a plan setting out in outline options for dealing with the Island's solid waste in an environmentally- sound, publicly acceptable and cost-effective way.

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 17 CONTRE: 35 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S. Syvret

Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. Helier Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St.  Martin Deputy R.G. Le  Hérissier (S)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le  Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St.  Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D. De  Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


Senator T.A. Le  Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le  Main Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator J.L. Perchard Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Mary Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy of St.  Ouen Deputy of Grouville Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le  Fondré (L)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of  St.  John Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Changes in Presidency

The   Bailiff  retired  from  the  Chamber  during  consideration  of  the proposition  of  the   Deputy  of  St.  Mary concerning the Energy from Waste facility: rescindment', as amended (P.8/2009) and the meeting continued under the presidency of Mr.  Michael Nelson de  la Haye, Greffier of the States. The States r-eassembled after the lunch adjournment under the Presidency of the Bailiff , who retired from the Chamber later in the afternoon during the continued consideration of P.8/2009 and the meeting continued under the presidency of Mr.  Michael Nelson de  la Haye, Greffier of the States.

Arrangement of business for the present meeting

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Senator Stuart Syvret, agreed to defer the remaining items of public business scheduled for the present meeting until 10th March 2009, with the exception of P.11/2009 (Draft Limited Partnerships (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 2009 (Appointed Day) Act 200-) and P.22/2009 (Law Revision Board: appointment of member).

Draft Limited Partnerships (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 2009 (Appointed Day) Act 200-  P.11/2009

THE STATES, in pursuance of in pursuance of Article 15 of the Limited Partnerships (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 2009, made an Act entitled the Limited Partnerships (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 2009 (Appointed Day) Act 2009.

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 48 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator S. Syvret Deputy of St.  John

Senator T.A.

Le  Sueur

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator T.J. Le  Main

Senator B.E. Shenton

Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator A.J.D. Maclean

Senator B.I.

Le  Marquand Connétable of

St.  Ouen

Connétable of

St.  Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of

St.  Brelade Connétable of

St.  Martin Connétable of

St.  John

Connétable of

St.  Saviour Connétable of

St.  Clement Connétable of

St.  Peter

Connétable of

St.  Lawrence Connétable of

St.  Mary

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy of St.  Martin Deputy R.G.

Le  Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy of St.  Ouen Deputy of Grouville Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy P.V.F.

Le  Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N.

Le  Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy of St.  Mary Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Law Revision Board: appointment of member P.22/2009

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for Treasury and Resources, agreed in accordance with Article  2(1)(a) of the Law Revision (Jersey) Law 2003, to appoint Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade as member of the Law Revision Board.

Withdrawal of lodged propositions

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the proposers of the following propositions lodged "au Greffe" had informed the Greffier of the States that they had been withdrawn

Waterfront Enterprise Board: revised Memorandum and Articles of Association. P.12/2009. Lodged: 27th January 2009.

Council of Ministers.

Waterfront Enterprise Board: appointment of States director. P.13/2009. Lodged: 28th January 2009.

Senator B.E. Shenton.

Arrangement of public business for future meetings

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for Social Security, agreed, in accordance with Standing Order  26(7),  to  reduce  the  minimum  lodging  period  in  respect  of  the  proposition  concerning  the  Draft Employment (Amendment No.  5) (Jersey) Law 200- (P.27/2009) lodged au Greffe' on 24th February 2009, which was a matter of such urgency and importance that it would be prejudicial to Jersey to delay its debate. This matter would now be considered at the meeting on 31st March 2009.

THE STATES rejected a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St.  Helier that his propositionPublic Elections (Jersey) Law 2002: rescindment of Article  39A' (P.18/2009) be listed for debate on 10th March 2009.

Members present voted as follows

POUR: 11 CONTRE: 34 ABSTAIN: 3

Senator S. Syvret

Senator A. Breckon

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy P.V.F. Le  Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)


Senator T.A. Le  Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le  Main Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy of St.  Martin Deputy R.G. Le  Hérissier (S)

Deputy of St.  Ouen

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le  Fondré (L)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St.  John

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


Connétable of St. Helier Deputy of St.  Mary Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

THE STATES agreed the following arrangement of public business for future meetings proposed, as amended, by the Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 88 (3) –

10th March 2009

Draft Amendment (No.  10) of the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey. P.179/2008. Lodged: 5th December 2008.

Privileges and Procedures Committee.

Voisinage and customary law: review. P.1/2009. Lodged: 5th January 2009.

Senator B.E. Shenton.

Property sold by the public: restriction on renting back. P.7/2009. Lodged: 20th January 2009.

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire of St.  Helier.

Jersey Consumer Council: appointment of Chairman. P.10/2009. Lodged: 23rd January 2009. (re-issue) Minister for Economic Development.

Public Employees Contributory Retirement Scheme: membership of the P.14/2009. Committee of Management.

Lodged: 29th January 2009.

Chief Minister.

Manual Workers' Joint Council: Employers' Side membership. P.15/2009. Lodged: 29th January 2009.

Chief Minister.

Appointments Commission: re-appointment of member. P.23/2009. Lodged: 11th February 2009.

Chief Minister.

States Members' remuneration for 2009. P.24/2009. Lodged: 19th February 2009.

Connétable of St. Peter.

Social Security Tribunal: appointment of members. P.25/2009. Lodged: 24th February 2009.

Minister for Social Security.

Draft Companies (Takeovers and Mergers Panel) (Jersey) Law 2009 (Appointed P.26/2009. Day) Act 200-.

Lodged: 24th February 2009.

Minister for Economic Development.

24th March 2009

Ratification of the Agreements for the Exchange of Information Relating to Tax P.20/2009. Matters between the States of Jersey and the Nordic countries (Denmark, the

Faroes, Finland, Greenland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden).

Lodged: 10th February 2009.

Chief Minister.

Draft Taxation (Exchange of Information with Third Countries) (Amendment P.21/2009. No.  2) (Jersey) Regulations  200-.

Lodged: 10th February 2009.

Chief Minister.

31st March 2009

Rates: the States' liability. P.147/2008. Lodged: 16th September 2008.

Connétable of St. Helier.

Rates: the States' liability (P.147/2008) – comments. P.147/2008. Presented: 16th January 2009. Com. Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Income Tax (Amendment No.  32) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.161/2008. Lodged: 21st October 2008.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Income Tax (Amendment No.  32) (Jersey) Law 200- (P.161/2008): P.161/2008. comments. Com. Presented: 25th November 2008.

Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Ministerial government: review. P.181/2008. Lodged: 10th December 2008.

Deputy of St.  John.

La  Pouquelaye old school site: provision of youth and community facilities. P.187/2008. Lodged: 24th December 2008.

Connétable of St. Helier.

Williamson Report: Implementation Plan – funding. P.17/2009. Lodged: 4th February 2009.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Royal Court (Amendment No.  12) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.19/2009. Lodged: 9th February 2009.

Chief Minister.

Draft Employment (Amendment No.  5) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.27/2009. Lodged: 24th February 2009.

Minister for Social Security.

Goods and Services Tax: exemption or zero-rating for foodstuffs and domestic P.28/2009. energy.

Lodged: 24th February 2009.

Deputy of Grouville .

28th April 2009 12th May 2009

Public Elections (Jersey) Law 2002: rescindment of Article  39A. P.18/2009. Lodged: 4th February 2009.

Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier.

16th June 2009

Ann Court Site, St.  Helier: use for sheltered social housing for the over-55s. P.184/2008. Lodged: 23rd December 2008. (re-issue) Deputy J.A. Martin of St.  Helier.

Natural gas pipeline: strategic study. P.16/2009. Lodged: 29th January 2009.

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire of St.  Helier.

THE STATES rose at 5.57  p.m.

M.N. DE LA HAYE

Greffier of the States