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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 12th May 2010, at 09.30 a.m. under

the Presidency of the Bailiff , Michael Cameron St. John Birt Esquire. __________________

All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Terence John Le Main – excused (arrived in the Chamber at 11.21 a.m.) Senator Frederick Ellyer Cohen – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.02 a.m.)

Connétable Silvanus Arthur Yates of St. Martin – ill

Connétable John Martin Refault of St. Peter – absent on States business

Deputy John Benjamin Fox of St. Helier – absent on States business

Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.49 a.m.) Deputy Sean Seamus Patrick Augustine Power of St. Brelade – absent on States business Deputy Trevor Mark Pitman of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.49 a.m.)

Deputy Anne Teresa Dupré of St. Clement – absent on States business

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Prayers __________________

Documents presented or laid

Summary of Responses: White Paper – Insolvency Payments Scheme. R.53/2010. Presented: 12th May 2010.

Minister for Social Security.

Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – R.54/2010.

Field 1001, Le Mont de Ste Marie, St. Mary – proposed sale;
Railway Walk, St. Brelade – disposal of land adjacent to La Petite Route des Mielles

for roadside footpath.

Presented: 12th May 2010.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Notification of lodged propositions

Housing Development Fund: cost/benefit analysis. P.61/2010. Lodged: 12th May 2010.

Senator A. Breckon.

167 Price code: B

States net revenue expenditure 2011 and 2012: reduction P.29/2010

THE STATES resumed consideration of a proposition of the Public Accounts Committee which referred to their Act dated 5th October 2009 in which they approved the Annual Business Plan 2010 and, inter alia, approved the indicative total Net Revenue Expenditure for the States funded bodies, as set out in Part Three of the report Summary Table C as amended for the period 2011 to 2014, and requested the Chief Minister to present Annual Business Plans to the States within these indicative total amounts; and requested the Chief Minister to prepare and lodge for approval draft Annual Business Plans limiting total net revenue expenditure for the States funded bodies, calculated on the basis shown in the financial forecasts, (namely after the Net Revenue Expenditure Allocation has been adjusted for the Repayment of Capital Debt), to a sum not exceeding –

£580.45 million in respect of 2011; and
£551.43 million in respect of 2012.

THE STATES, following discussion, acceded to a request of the Public Accounts Committee that the proposition entitled States net revenue expenditure 2011 and 2012: reduction' (P.29/2010) be withdrawn.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 24 CONTRE: 16 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Senator T.A. Le Sueur

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Draft Judgments (Reciprocal Enforcement) (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Act 201- P.32/2010

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 3 of the Judgments (Reciprocal Enforcement) (Jersey) Law 1960, adopted an Act entitled the Judgments (Reciprocal Enforcement) (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Act 2010.

Draft Advocates and Solicitors (Amendment No. 5) (Jersey) Law 201- P.34/2010

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Advocates and Solicitors (Amendment No. 5) (Jersey) Law 201- and adopted the principles.

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 7.

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Advocates and Solicitors (Amendment No. 5) (Jersey) Law 201-.

Draft Public Finances (Transitional Provisions) (No. 2) (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.35/2010

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Public Finances (Transitional Provisions) (No. 2) (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 33 CONTRE: 5 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 4.

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 6(2) of the Public Finances (Jersey) Law 2005, made Regulations entitled the Public Finances (Transitional Provisions) (No. 2) (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 2010.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 31 CONTRE: 4 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)

Draft Health Insurance (Medical Benefit) (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.36/2010

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Health Insurance (Medical Benefit) (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 46 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 4.

THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 9 and 36 of the Health Insurance (Jersey) Law 1967, made Regulations entitled the Health Insurance (Medical Benefit) (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Regulations 2010.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 46 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

The Deputy of St. John , in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(b), declared an interest not being of a direct financial nature, but remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate.

Terrorist Asset-Freezing (Temporary Provisions) Act 2010: extension of Sections 1 and 3 to Jersey P.38/2010

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chief Minister, signified, pursuant to Article 31 of the States of Jersey Law 2005, that they agreed that Sections 1 and 3 of the Terrorist Asset-Freezing (Temporary Provisions) Act 2010 should extend to Jersey, so far as they related to the Terrorism (United Nations Measures) (Channel Islands) Order 2001 (S.I. 2001/3363), so as to be law in Jersey, as summarised in the report of the Chief Minister dated 19th March 2010.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 42 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Changes in Presidency

THE STATES re-assembled after the lunch adjournment under the Presidency of Mrs. Anne Helen Harris , Deputy Greffier of the States.

Reciprocal Health Agreement with the United Kingdom: negotiations P.39/2010

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Senator Alan Breckon, agreed to request the Chief Minister, in conjunction with the Minister for Health and Social Services and other Ministers as appropriate, to take the necessary steps to open negotiations with Her Majesty's Government with a view to putting in place a new Reciprocal Health Agreement between Jersey and the United Kingdom on terms that were acceptable to both governments.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier

Senator T.J. Le Main Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Millennium Town Park: commencement in 2010 P.42/2010

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of the Connétable of St. Helier concerning the commencement of the Millennium Town Park in 2011 and an amendment of the Council of Ministers that in paragraph (b), for the words "in their entirety and no part of the site should be developed for housing or other uses" there should be substituted the words "subject to the outcome of the debate on the North of Town Masterplan".

Changes in Presidency

Mrs. Anne Helen Harris , Deputy Greffier of the States retired from the Chair during consideration of the proposition of the Connétable of St. Helier concerning the development of the Millennium Town Park (P.42/2010 lodged au Greffe' on 6th April 2010) and the meeting continued under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff . The Deputy Bailiff then retired from the Chair and the meeting continued under the Presidency of the Bailiff .

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 13th May 2010 to continue consideration of the proposition of the Connétable of St. Helier entitled Millennium Town Park: commencement in 2010' (P.42/2010) and the outstanding items of public business.

THE STATES rose at 5.31 p.m.

A.H. HARRIS Deputy Greffier of the States