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States Minutes 7th December 2010

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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 7th December 2010, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,

Michael Cameron St. John Birt Esquire. __________________

His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, Lieutenant-General Andrew Peter Ridgway, C.B., C.B.E., was present.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Frederick Ellyer Cohen – en défaut

Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.38 a.m.) Deputy Collin Hedley Egré of St. Peter ill

Deputy Sean Seamus Patrick Augustine Power of St. Brelade ill

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Prayers __________________

Les Quennevais School students – welcome

The Bailiff , on behalf of all Members, welcomed a group of Year 11 Economics students from Les Quennevais School, who were present in the Public Gallery.

Connétable of St. Helier – re-election

The Bailiff , on behalf of all members, congratulated Mr. Alan Simon Crowcroft on his re-election as the Connétable of St. Helier .

Documents presented or laid

Expenditure Proposals for 2012 and 2013 and Draft Budget Statement 2011  P.157/2010. (P.157/2010): amendment (P.157/2010 Amd.) – second amendment  Amd. (P.157/2010 Amd.Amd.(2)) – comments.  Amd.(2) Presented: 7th December 2010.  Com.(2) Council of Ministers.

Expenditure Proposals for 2012 and 2013 and Draft Budget Statement 2011  P.157/2010. (P.157/2010): third amendment (P.157/2010 Amd.(3)) – amendment  Amd.(3) (P.157/2010 Amd.(3)Amd.) – comments.  Amd.Com. Presented: 7th December 2010.

Council of Ministers.

575   Price code: B

STATES MINUTES

Notification of lodged propositions

Jersey Bank Depositors Compensation Board: appointment of members. Lodged: 7th December 2010.

Minister for Economic Development.

Esplanade Quarter: deferment of works. Lodged: 7th December 2010.

Deputy of St. John .


7th December 2010

P.180/2010. P.181/2010.

Withdrawal of lodged propositions

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the proposer of the following proposition lodged "au Greffe" had informed the Greffier of the States that it had been withdrawn –

Esplanade Quarter: deferment of works and endorsement of Development Agreement. P.136/2010. Lodged: 7th October 2010.

Deputy of St. John .

Expenditure Proposals for 2012 and 2013 and Draft Budget Statement 2011 P.157/2010

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Expenditure Proposals for 2012 and 2013 and Draft Budget Statement 2011 (P.157/2010) and rejected an amendment of the Deputy of St. Mary that in paragraph (a) for the figure "£694,200,000" there should be substituted the figure "£710,700,000"; for the figure "£688,300,000" there should be substituted the figure "£704,800,000", and for the figure "£65,000,000" there should be substituted the figure "£32,000,000".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 5 CONTRE: 44 ABSTAIN: 0

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary


Senator T.A. Le Sueur

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator T.J. Le Main

Senator B.E. Shenton

Senator J.L. Perchard

Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES, adopting an amendment of Deputy Tracey Anne Vallois of St. Saviour , agreed that in paragraph (a) of the Expenditure Proposals for 2012 and 2013 and Draft Budget Statement 2011 (P.157/2010), in order to reduce the provision for Central Reserves in 2012 and 2013, for the figure "£694,200,000" for 2012 there should be substituted the figure "£690,200,000"; for the figure "£688,300,000" for 2013 there should be substituted the figure "£680,300,000"; and in Summary Table A on page 50, for the figure "£13,000,000" there should be substituted the figure "£9,000,000", and for the figure "£17,000,000" there should be substituted the figure "£9,000,000".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 28 CONTRE: 20 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H)


Senator T.A. Le Sueur

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator T.J. Le Main

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Peter

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy of Grouville   Deputy of St. John Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)   Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H)   Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)   Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES rejected an amendment of Senator Francis Du Heaume Le Gresley that in paragraph (b) of the Expenditure Proposals for 2012 and 2013 and Draft Budget Statement 2011 (P.157/2010), after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –

"except  that  income  tax  exemption  limits  for  the  year  of  assessment  2011  should  be increased by 3.1% rather than the 1.1% proposed in the draft Budget Statement."

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 22   CONTRE: 27  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator A. Breckon

Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)


 Senator T.A. Le Sueur

  Senator P.F. Routier

  Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

  Senator T.J. Le Main

  Senator B.E. Shenton

  Senator S.C. Ferguson

  Senator A.J.H. Maclean

  Senator B.I. Le Marquand

  Connétable of St. Ouen

  Connétable of Trinity

  Connétable of Grouville

  Connétable of St. Brelade

  Connétable of St. Martin

  Connétable of St. Saviour

  Connétable of St. Clement

  Connétable of St. Peter

  Connétable of St. Mary

  Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

  Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)   Deputy of Trinity

  Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

  Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

  Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

  Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

  Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

  Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

  Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE  STATES  commenced  consideration  of  an  amendment  of   Deputy  Geoffrey  Peter   Southern  of St. Helier to paragraph (b) of the Expenditure Proposals for 2012 and 2013 and Draft Budget Statement 2011 (P.157/2010), that after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words "except that, in Summary Table B States Income 2011' on page 74 the estimate of total income for 2011 shall be decreased by £15 million by maintaining the rate of Goods and Services Tax at 3% until May 31st 2011"; and an amendment of the Connétable of St. Helier to that amendment that in paragraph (1), for the words "May 31st 2012" there should be substituted the words "December 31st 2011".

Change in Presidency

The Bailiff retired from the Chamber during consideration of the amendment of Senator Francis Du Heaume Le Gresley to paragraph (b) of the Expenditure Proposals for 2012 and 2013 and Draft Budget Statement 2011 (P.157/2010) and the meeting continued under the presidency of Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, Greffier of the States. The Bailiff resumed the Presidency during the consideration of an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to paragraph (b) of the Expenditure Proposals for 2012 and 2013 and Draft Budget Statement 2011 (P.157/2010).

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 8th December 2010 to continue the debate on the Expenditure Proposals for 2012 and 2013 and Draft Budget Statement 2011 (P.157/2010) and the outstanding items of public business.

THE STATES rose at 5.34 p.m.

M.N. DE LA HAYE Greffier of the States