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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 13th September 2011, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , William James Bailhache , Esquire. __________________
All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Ben Edward Shenton – en défaut (défaut raised at 11.51 a.m.)
Connétable Alan Simon Crowcroft of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.51 a.m.)
Connétable Daniel Joseph Murphy of Grouville – excused attendance
Connétable Graeme Frank Butcher of St. John – ill
Connétable John Martin Refault of St. Peter – en défaut
Deputy John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré of St. Lawrence – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.09 a.m.) Deputy Daniel John Arabin Wimberley of St. Mary – ill
Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.51 a.m.)
__________________
Prayers __________________
Documents presented or laid
States of Jersey Complaints Board: findings – complaint against a decision of the R.112/2011. Minister for Planning and Environment regarding the property known as Transvaal',
La Rue de Fauvic, Grouville .
Presented: 13th September 2011.
Privileges and Procedures Committee.
Withdrawal of lodged propositions
THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the proposers of the following propositions lodged "au Greffe" had informed the Greffier of the States that they had been withdrawn –
Medium Term Financial Plan: minimum lodging period. P.120/2011. Lodged: 28th June 2011.
Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .
Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 (P.123/2011): amendment. P.123/2011. Lodged: 19th August 2011. Amd. Senator F. du H. Le Gresley.
Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 (P.123/2011): sixth amendment (Paragraphs (a), (b), P.123/2011. (c), (d), (g), (h), (l), (m) and (u) Amd.(6) Lodged: 30th August 2011.
Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .
653 Price code: C
Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 (P.123/2011): ninth amendment (paragraphs 1 and 2). P.123/2011. Lodged: 30th August 2011. Amd.(9) Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .
Standing Orders: Answers to Questions. P.132/2011. Lodged: 3rd August 2011.
Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .
Annual Business Plan 2012 P.123/2011
THE STATES commenced consideration of paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 (P.123/2011) and rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Chief Minister's Department should be increased by £60,000 to enable the Statistics Unit to produce a Relative Cost of Living' comparator between Jersey and the United Kingdom by 2013 and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) should be reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 15 CONTRE: 28 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator A. Breckon
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES, adopting an amendment of Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012, agreed that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Chief Minister's Department should be increased by £18,400,100, (£10,194,500 in respect of the Information Services Department, £4,395,500 in respect of the Human Resources Department and £3,810,100 in respect of the PECRS pre-1987 debt) by transferring responsibility for the Information Services and Human Resources Departments back to the Chief Minister's Department on a permanent basis, and the total net revenue of the Treasury and Resources Department should be reduced by £18,400,100.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 31 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES commenced consideration of paragraph (1) of an amendment of Senator Francis du Heaume Le Gresley to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Economic Development Department should be increased by £1,000,000 in order to provide a grant in this amount to the Tourism Development Fund in 2012."
THE STATES, following discussion, granted leave to Senator Francis du Heaume Le Gresley to withdraw his amendment (Amendment 3, paragraph 1) to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012.
THE STATES was informed by the Deputy Bailiff that, as he was absent from the Assembly and had been declared malade', the amendment of the Deputy of St. Mary to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 (Amendment 12) was deemed to have fallen away.
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chief Minister, agreed, in accordance with paragraph (5) of Article 11(5) of the Public Finances (Jersey) Law 2005, that his amendment to paragraph (a) of the Annual Business Plan 2012 (Amendment 15) could be debated at the current meeting.
THE STATES, adopting an amendment of the Chief Minister to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012, agreed that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Education, Sport and Culture Department should be reduced by £15,000 and the net revenue expenditure of the Home Affairs Department should be increased by £15,000 to reflect a transfer of funding in this amount to the Building a Safer Society service area in the Home Affairs Department for 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 42 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES was informed by the Deputy Bailiff that, as he was absent from the Assembly and had been declared malade', the amendments of the Deputy of St. Mary to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 (Amendment 13, Paragraphs 1 to 5) were deemed to have fallen away.
THE STATES commenced consideration of paragraph (2) of an amendment of Senator Ben Edward Shenton to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by £100,000 in order to increase funding for the Alcohol and Drugs Service".
THE STATES rejected a proposition of Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade that the meeting should adjourn for lunch, before completing consideration of this amendment.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 16 CONTRE: 27 ABSTAIN: 1 Senator T.J. Le Main Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator A. Breckon Senator P.F. Routier
Connétable of St. Ouen Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Connétable of Trinity Senator F.E. Cohen
Connétable of St. Martin Senator J.L. Perchard
Connétable of St. Lawrence Senator S.C. Ferguson
Connétable of St. Mary Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
STATES MINUTES
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
13th September 2011
Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
THE STATES, having resumed consideration of paragraph (2) of an amendment of Senator Ben Edward Shenton to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012, rejected the proposition that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by £100,000 in order to increase funding for the Alcohol and Drugs Service".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 20 CONTRE: 27 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Martin Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Changes in Presidency
THE STATES re-assembled after the lunch adjournment under the Presidency of the Bailiff .
Annual Business Plan 2012 P.123/2011
THE STATES resumed consideration of paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 (P.123/2011) and rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by the amounts shown below to enable the cancellation of the draft CSR savings and user pays proposals for 2012 –
- Review Occupational Therapy Services, less £100,000 essential SLA annual increases and other efficiency
savings
and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 13 CONTRE: 31 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. Helier Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by the amounts shown below to enable the cancellation of the draft CSR savings and user pays proposals for 2012 –
- Review process pathways in the hospital to £175,000 improve efficiency
and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 9 CONTRE: 36 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon
Deputy of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by the amounts shown below to enable the cancellation of the draft CSR savings and user pays proposals for 2012 –
- Redesign of Respite Services £65,000
and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 19 CONTRE: 25 ABSTAIN: 1 Senator T.J. Le Main Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator A. Breckon Senator F.E. Cohen
Connétable of St. Helier Senator S.C. Ferguson
Deputy of St. Martin Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Connétable of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Connétable of Trinity
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Connétable of St. Brelade
Deputy S. Pitman (H) Connétable of St. Saviour
Deputy of St. John Connétable of St. Clement
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Connétable of St. Lawrence
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by the amounts shown below to enable the cancellation of the draft CSR savings and user pays proposals for 2012 –
- A&E – appropriate use of service £50,000
and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 12 CONTRE: 33 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon
Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Helier Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by the amounts shown below to enable the cancellation of the draft CSR savings and user pays proposals for 2012 –
- Workforce efficiencies review £50,000
and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 9 CONTRE: 35 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon
Deputy of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by the amounts shown below to enable the cancellation of the draft CSR savings and user pays proposals for 2012 –
- Patient Transport: Review PTS provision (user £46,000 pays)
and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 17 CONTRE: 28 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by the amounts shown below to enable the cancellation of the draft CSR savings and user pays proposals for 2012 –
- A proposal to move smoking cessation support £94,000 services into a community setting (user pays)
and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) be reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 8 CONTRE: 37 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by the amounts shown below to enable the cancellation of the draft CSR savings and user pays proposals for 2012 –
- Introduce an A and E charging mechanism (user £94,000 pays)
and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 14 CONTRE: 31 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon
Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by the amounts shown below to enable the cancellation of the draft CSR savings and user pays proposals for 2012 –
- Review the thresholds for travel to the UK for £94,000 elective surgery (user pays)
and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 11 CONTRE: 34 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by the amounts shown below to enable the cancellation of the draft CSR savings and user pays proposals for 2012 –
- Consider the re-introduction of prescription charges £78,000 by H&SS (user pays)
and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 17 CONTRE: 26 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon
Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of Trinity Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by the amounts shown below to enable the cancellation of the draft CSR savings and user pays proposals for 2012 –
- Surgical specialties: non-urgent cosmetic £32,000 procedures (user pays)
and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 8 CONTRE: 36 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator B.E. Shenton Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Health and Social Services Department should be increased by the amounts shown below to enable the cancellation of the draft CSR savings and user pays proposals for 2012 –
- Income generation initiatives within Community £31,000 and Social Services (user pays)
and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 12 CONTRE: 33 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Home Affairs Department should be increased by £39,000 in order to cancel the proposed CSR saving Jersey Field Squadron – Military Liaison Officer staff reduction' and the total net revenue of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Central Reserves) should be reduced by £39,000 for 2012.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 13 CONTRE: 28 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S.C. Ferguson Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Senator Ben Edward Shenton to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department should be decreased by £120,000".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 18 CONTRE: 26 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.J. Le Main Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 14th September 2011 to continue consideration of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 (P.123/2011) and the outstanding items of public business.
THE STATES rose at 5.26 p.m.
M.N. DE LA HAYE Greffier of the States