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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 14th September 2011, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,
Michael Cameron St. John Birt Esquire. __________________
All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Paul Francis Routier M.B.E. – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.40 a.m.)
Senator Ben Edward Shenton – en défaut
Senator Frederick Ellyer Cohen – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.53 a.m.)
Senator James Leslie Perchard – en défaut
Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.52 a.m.)
Connétable Alan Simon Crowcroft of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.53 a.m.)
Connétable Daniel Joseph Murphy of Grouville – excused attendance
Connétable Silvanus Arthur Yates of St. Martin – en défaut
Connétable Graeme Frank Butcher of St. John – ill
Connétable John Martin Refault of St. Peter – en défaut
Deputy John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré of St. Lawrence – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.40 a.m.) Deputy Anne Enid Pryke of Trinity – excused attendance (arrived in the Chamber at 10.30 a.m.) Deputy Daniel John Arabin Wimberley of St. Mary – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.22 a.m.) Deputy Trevor Mark Pitman of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.53 a.m.)
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Prayers __________________
Documents presented or laid
Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 (P.123/2011): fourteenth amendment P.123/2011. (P.14/2011 Amd.) – addendum. Amd.(14). Presented: 14th September 2011. Add. Deputy of St. Mary .
Annual Business Plan 2012 P.123/2011
THE STATES resumed consideration of paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 (P.123/2011) and rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012" there should be inserted the words –
"except that total net revenue expenditure should be increased by £7,000,000 by reinstating this amount in Central Pay Provision in respect of staff terms and conditions and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department (Provision for Restructuring Costs) reduced by an equivalent sum in 2012."
673 Price code: B
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 12 CONTRE: 33 ABSTAIN: 0
Connétable of St. Helier Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F.du H. Le Gresley
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
In accordance with Standing Order 106(1)(b), Senator Alan Breckon and the Deputy of St. John declared an interest and withdrew from the Chamber, whilst Deputies Robert Charles Duhamel of St. Saviour , John Benjamin Fox of St. Helier and Ian Joseph Gorst of St. Clement declared an interest but remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate.
THE STATES, adopting paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012, as amended, approved the summary set out in Summary Table A, page 69, being the gross revenue expenditure of each States funded body, including depreciation, a proposed transfer from the Health Insurance Fund of £6,131,000, and the additional provisions of net revenue expenditure for central reserves of £12,485,000 and restructuring costs of £10,000,000 as part of the total net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department and, having taken into account any income due to each of the States funded bodies, the total net revenue expenditure of £655,920,000, to be withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2012; except that the net revenue expenditure of the Chief Minister's Department should be increased by £18,400,100 (£10,194,500 in respect of the Information Services Department, £4,395,500 in respect of the Human Resources Department and £3,810,100 in respect of the PECRS pre-1987 debt) by transferring responsibility for the Information Services and Human Resources Departments back to the Chief Minister's Department on a permanent basis, and the total net revenue of the Treasury and Resources Department should be reduced by £18,400,100; except that the net revenue expenditure of the Education, Sport and Culture Department should be reduced by £15,000 and the net revenue expenditure of the Home Affairs Department should be increased by £15,000 to reflect a transfer of funding in this amount to the Building a Safer Society service area in the Home Affairs Department for 2012, with any increase above this figure compensated by appropriate measures within the Draft Budget 2012 to enable the Minister for Treasury and Resources to present a draft Budget which forecast a return to balanced budgets by 2013 as set out in Figure 4.6.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 37 CONTRE: 8 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F.du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator A. Breckon
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
THE STATES, adopting paragraph (b) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012, approved the summary set out in Summary Table B, page 70, being the estimated income and expenditure and estimated minimum contribution, if any, that each States trading operation was to make to the States consolidated fund in 2012.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 39 CONTRE: 4 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
THE STATES commenced consideration of paragraph (c) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 and, adopting an amendment of the Minister for Treasury and Resources, agreed that after the words "to be withdrawn from the consolidated fund" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the amount in Table C for Clinique Pinel Refurbishment in 2012 be increased from £1,100,000 to £2,868,000 with an increase in the amount to be withdrawn from the consolidated fund from £35,814,000 to £37,582,000".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 43 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Changes in Presidency
The Bailiff retired from the Chamber during consideration of the amendment of the Minister for Treasury and Resources to paragraph (c) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 and the meeting continued under the presidency of Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, Greffier of the States.
Annual Business Plan 2012 P.123/2011
THE STATES, having resumed consideration of paragraph (c) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012, as amended, approved each of the capital projects in the recommended programme of capital projects for each States funded body for 2012, as set out in Summary Table C, page 71, that required £35,814,000 to be withdrawn from the consolidated fund; except that the amount in Table C for Clinique Pinel Refurbishment in 2012 should be increased from £1,100,000 to £2,868,000 with an increase in the amount to be withdrawn from the consolidated fund from £35,814,000 to £37,582,000.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 42 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator T.A. Le Sueur Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES, adopting paragraph (d) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012, approved each of the capital projects in the recommended programme of capital for each States trading operation, as set out in Summary Table D, page 72 that required funds be drawn from the trading funds in 2012.
THE STATES commenced consideration of paragraph (e) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 and an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to paragraph (e) that after the words "for 2013 and 2014" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the indicative total of net revenue expenditure should be increased in 2013 by £60,000 in order to provide a grant in this amount to the Prison! Me! No Way!' initiative.".
THE STATES acceded to a request of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that his amendment to paragraph (e) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 be withdrawn.
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 15th September 2011 to continue consideration of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2012 (P.123/2011) and the outstanding items of public business.
THE STATES rose at 5.27 p.m.
M.N. DE LA HAYE Greffier of the States