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States Minutes 23rd June 2011

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THE STATES assembled on Thursday 23rd June 2011, at 09.30 a.m. under

the Presidency of the Bailiff , Michael Cameron St. John Birt Esquire. __________________

All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.44 a.m.) Connétable John Le Sueur Gallichan of Trinity – en défaut

Deputy Judith Ann Martin of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.44 a.m.) Deputy James Gordon Reed of St. Ouen – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.44 a.m.) Deputy Anne Enid Pryke of Trinity – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.44 a.m.)

__________________

Prayers __________________

Filming in the Chamber

THE STATES agreed that the media should be permitted to film the proceedings on Thursday 30th June 2011, on the occasion of the departure of His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, Lieutenant-General Sir Andrew Ridgway, K.B.E., C.B.

Notification of lodged propositions

Island Plan 2011: approval (P.48/2011): fifty-fourth amendment (P.48/2011 Amd.(54)) –  P.48/2011. amendment.  Amd.(54) Lodged: 23rd June 2011.  Amd. Minister for Planning and Environment.

Withdrawal of lodged propositions

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the proposer of the following proposition lodged "au Greffe" had informed the Greffier of the States that it had been withdrawn –

Island Plan 2011: approval (P.48/2011): thirty-seventh amendment (paragraph 5).  P.48/2011. Lodged: 26th April 2011.  Amd.(37) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré of St. Lawrence .

Island Plan 2011: approval P.48/2011

THE STATES resumed consideration of a proposition of the Minister for Planning and Environment concerning the approval of the Island Plan 2011 (P.48/2011).

THE STATES rejected an amendment of Senator James Leslie Perchard (Amendment (10)) that after the words "the revised draft Island Plan 2011" there should be inserted the words –

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"except that –

  1. in Chapter 5: Economy, after paragraph 5.119 (on page 200) there should be inserted the following paragraphs, and the later paragraphs renumbered accordingly –

Extension to Thistlegrove

  1. Land adjacent to the existing Thistlegrove industrial site is considered suitable to provide additional land for light industrial/warehouse use resulting in an extended site of approximately 5.4 acres (12.5 vergées) in total.
  2. The current uses on the site identified for extension include a mix of industrial, commercial or quasi-industrial activities which have been developed, over time, in a piecemeal and uncoordinated manner. The site includes North End Vineries, The Fencing Centre and Bienvenue Farm, together with 2 dwellings and some workers' accommodation related to existing operations. These uses are accommodated in a range of buildings which are generally sub-standard, in terms of the requirements of modern commercial floor-space.
  3. There are 6 access points to/from the current complex of buildings comprising the existing Thistlegrove industrial estate and the buildings and uses sited on the land proposed for the extension of the industrial park. Three of these connect to La Grande Route de St. Laurent and three to La Rue de la Scelletterie, the latter being a small country lane with very limited visibility at its junction with La Grande Route de St. Laurent.
  4. The extension of the designation of land for light industrial/warehouse use at Thistlegrove provides an opportunity to comprehensively address and improve the quality of buildings, floor-space and access arrangements that currently exist on this land. This could be achieved without adverse impact upon the countryside given the existing landscape features which surround the land, and indeed there is potential to improve the visual quality of the area through the replacement of some of the poor buildings which presently exist.
  5. The comprehensive development of the site would be managed within the context of a development brief, which would address issues such as boundary treatment, layout, landscaping, access and traffic. Any development brief for this site, which would be reviewed and adopted by the Minister as supplementary planning guidance, would need to be prepared in advance of planning applications for the proposed extension of the light industrial/warehouse land.'
  1. there should be inserted a new Policy EIW1, (on page 202), immediately after paragraph numbers 5.120–5.124, as follows, and the later EIW policies, with relevant consequential amendments, renumbered accordingly –

Policy EIW1: Provision of light industrial and warehouse land

Land to the north and east of the existing industrial site known as Thistlegrove', as shown on the Proposals Map, is zoned for light industrial and warehouse use.

Proposals for other commercial uses, including retailing, will not be permitted on the site unless related and ancillary to the primary industrial, storage or warehousing use and provided they are in accordance with other principles and policies of the Plan.

A development brief will be prepared, for approval and adoption by the Minister as supplementary planning guidance, prior to the submission of any planning applications for the site to ensure that development takes place in a co-ordinated manner  and  that  proposals  are  satisfactory  in  terms  of  design,  layout, landscaping, service infrastructure, access and parking.'; and

  1. the Proposals Map should be amended accordingly'.".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 13  CONTRE: 37  ABSTAIN: 1 Senator T.J. Le Main  Senator T.A. Le Sueur   Deputy of St. Ouen

Senator B.E. Shenton  Senator P.F. Routier

Senator J.L. Perchard  Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator A. Breckon  Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator F. du H. Le Gresley  Senator S.C. Ferguson

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)  Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)  Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)   Connétable of St. Ouen

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)   Connétable of St. Helier

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)   Connétable of Grouville

Deputy S. Pitman (H)   Connétable of St. Brelade

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)   Connétable of St. Martin

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)   Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES, adopting an amendment of the Minister for Planning and Environment (Amendment (53)) agreed that after the words "the revised draft Island Plan 2011" there should be inserted the words –

"except that in the section Enabling development, in paragraph 5.148 (page 210) after the words the business case for the proposals.' there should be inserted the following words –

The Minister is also concerned to ensure that applications for enabling development are advertised in a way that ensures that the nature of the proposal is brought to the attention of the public of the Island and will review the Planning and Building (Application Publication) (Jersey) Order 2006 to give effect to this.' ".

After the words "the revised draft Island Plan 2011" there should be inserted the words –

"except that after Policy ERE3 (page 211) there should be inserted the following proposal –

Proposal 17: Advertising enabling development proposals

The Minister for Planning and Environment will review the Planning and Building (Application Publication) (Jersey) Order 2006 to ensure that applications for enabling development are advertised in a way that ensures that the nature of the proposal is brought to the attention of the public of the Island.', and renumber subsequent proposals accordingly.".

Following the adoption of the amendment of the Minister for Planning and Environment (Amendment (53)) the Bailiff informed the Assembly that an amendment of the Deputy of St. Mary (Amendment (20)) was deemed to have been withdrawn.

THE STATES, adopting an amendment of the Connétable of St. Helier (Amendment (38), Paragraph 15) agreed that after the words "the revised draft Island Plan 2011" there should be inserted the words –

"except that in Policy EVE2 – Tourist Destination Areas (page 220) at the end of the third bullet point, after the words public transport users' there should be inserted the words and associated signage' ".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 32 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley

Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE  STATES,  adopting  an  amendment  of  the  Minister  for  Planning  and  Environment (Amendment (43)) agreed that after the words "the revised draft Island Plan 2011" there should be inserted the words –

"except that –

  1. in paragraph 6.11  (page 226)  for  the  words  Jersey Homebuy'  there  should  be substituted the words a form of intermediate housing, be that "Jersey Homebuy" or another alternative form of shared equity housing(1)' and for the associated footnote, there should be substituted the following words –

(1) The Jersey Homebuy scheme is the subject of review. Whatever the form of intermediate

housing ultimately adopted following that review it must be soundly based, robust and have clear operating guidelines, which will be approved by the States.';

  1. the revised draft Island Plan 2011 should be further amended in such respects as might be necessary to amend all references toJersey Homebuy' consequent upon the adoption of  (a),  in particular,  in Policy  H2 –  Other  Category  housing  sites  and  Policy 3 – Affordable housing;".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 38  CONTRE: 5  ABSTAIN: 2

Senator T.A. Le Sueur   Deputy G.P. Southern (H)  Senator B.E. Shenton Senator P.F. Routier   Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)  Senator A. Breckon Senator P.F.C. Ozouf   Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Senator T.J. Le Main   Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)

Senator F.E. Cohen   Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Senator J.L. Perchard

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Following the adoption of the amendment of the Minister for Planning and Environment (Amendment (43)), the Bailiff informed the Assembly that an amendment of Senator Alan Breckon (Amendment (24), Paragraph 1) was deemed to have been withdrawn.

THE STATES rejected an amendment of Senator Alan Breckon (Amendment (24), Paragraph 2) that after the words "the revised draft Island Plan 2011" there should be inserted the words

"except that –

  1. in paragraph 6.11 (page 226) for the words lifelong homes (for people over 55)' there should be substituted the words lifelong homes (for people over 65)';
  2. the revised draft Island Plan 2011 be further amended in such respects as may be necessary to amend all references to lifelong homes (for people over 55) consequent upon the adoption of (a), in particular in Policy H3 – Affordable housing;".

POUR: 13

Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Deputy of Grouville Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)


CONTRE: 33  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator P.F. Routier   Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator T.J. Le Main

Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE  STATES  commenced  consideration  of  an  amendment  of  Senator  James  Leslie  Perchard (Amendment (4)) that after the words "the revised draft Island Plan 2011" there should be inserted the words –

"except that –

  1. there be added to the list of sites to be zoned for Category A housing at Policy H1: Category A housing sites (on page 246):

4.  Longueville Nurseries, New York Lane, St. Saviour (2.1 acres/4.75 vergées).';

  1. the revised draft Island Plan 2011 be further amended in such respects as may be necessary consequent upon the adoption of (a);
  2. the Proposals Map be amended to reflect the adoption of (a).".

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(1)(a), Senator Philip Francis  Cyril   Ozouf  and   Deputy  John  Alexander  Nicholas  Le Fondré  of   St. Lawrence  declared  an interest and withdrew from the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the above amendment of Senator James Leslie Perchard (Amendment (4)).

Changes in Presidency

The Bailiff briefly retired from the Chamber during consideration of the amendment of Senator James Leslie  Perchard  (Amendment (4))  and  the  meeting  continued  under  the  presidency  of  Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, Greffier of the States until his return.

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee, agreed that it would add Monday 27th June 2011 as a continuation day and commence proceedings on that date at 2.30 p.m.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 35  CONTRE: 9  ABSTAIN: 4

Senator T.A. Le Sueur  Senator B.E. Shenton   Connétable of St. Mary Senator P.F. Routier   Connétable of St. Lawrence   Deputy of Grouville Senator T.J. Le Main   Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)   Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Senator F.E. Cohen   Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)   Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Senator J.L. Perchard   Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)

Senator A. Breckon   Deputy of St. John

Senator S.C. Ferguson   Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Senator A.J.H. Maclean   Deputy of St. Mary

Senator B.I. Le Marquand   Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Senator F. du H. Le Gresley

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Peter

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES rejected a proposition of the Connétable of St. Clement that the Assembly should add Saturday 25th June 2011as an additional continuation day.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 14  CONTRE: 31  ABSTAIN: 2

Senator P.F. Routier  Senator T.A. Le Sueur  Senator F.E. Cohen Senator A. Breckon  Senator T.J. Le Main   Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Connétable of St. Brelade  Senator B.E. Shenton

Connétable of St. Saviour  Senator J.L. Perchard

Connétable of St. Clement  Senator S.C. Ferguson

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)  Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)  Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Deputy S. Pitman (H)  Senator F. du H. Le Gresley

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)   Connétable of St. Ouen

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)   Connétable of St. Helier

Deputy M. Tadier (B)   Connétable of Grouville

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)   Connétable of St. Peter

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)   Connétable of St. Lawrence

Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)   Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE  STATES,  adopting  a  proposition  of  the   Deputy  of   St. John ,  agreed  that  the  duration  of  the remainder of the continuation days should be extended to commence at 9.00 a.m. and end at 6 p.m.

POUR: 34

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator T.J. Le Main Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


CONTRE: 13  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator B.E. Shenton   Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Brelade

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Adjournment

THE  STATES  adjourned,  having  agreed  to  reconvene  on  Friday  24th  June  2011  to  continue consideration  of  the  Island  Plan  2011:  approval  (P.48/2011)  and  the  outstanding  items  of  public business.

THE STATES rose at 5.46 p.m.

M.N. DE LA HAYE Greffier of the States