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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 8th June 2011, at 09.30 a.m. under
the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , William James Bailhache , Esquire. __________________
All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Terence Augustine Le Sueur – absent on States business
Senator Frederick Ellyer Cohen – absent on States business
Senator Alan John Henry Maclean – en défaut (défaut raised at 12.06 p.m.)
Connétable Michael Keith Jackson of St. Brelade – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.16 a.m.) Deputy Anne Enid Pryke of Trinity – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.16 a.m.)
Deputy Trevor Mark Pitman of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.16 a.m.)
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Prayers __________________
Documents presented or laid
Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – R.72/2011.
- Elizabeth Terminal (Office) E10 – lease;
- No. 4 Dumaresq Street Site, St. Helier – proposed sale.
Presented: 8th June 2011.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Notification of lodged propositions
Draft Food Costs Bonus (Jersey) Regulations 201- (P.65/2011): amendment. P.65/2011. Lodged: 8th June 2011. Amd. Minister for Social Security.
North St. Helier Masterplan (P.73/2011): amendment. P.73/2011. Lodged: 8th June 2011. Amd. Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré of St. Lawrence .
School Milk: restoration of funding. P.115/2011. Lodged: 8th June 2011.
Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .
Pension age: increase P.58/2011
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of the Minister for Social Security, entitled Pension age: increase' (P.58/2011) and of a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that, in accordance with Standing Order 83(1)(a) the matter should be referred back to the Minister for Social Security in order that further information relating to the proposition could be provided to the States.
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THE STATES adopting a proposition of Deputy Paul Vincent Francis Le Claire of St. Helier , agreed that, in accordance with Standing Order 54(3), the défaut excusé on Senator Alan John Henry Maclean should be raised.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 34 CONTRE: 3 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator P.F. Routier Senator F.du H. Le Gresley Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Senator T.J. Le Main Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Pension age: increase P.58/2011
THE STATES, having resumed consideration of a proposition of the Minister for Social Security, entitled Pension age: increase' (P.58/2011), rejected a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that, in accordance with Standing Order 83(1)(a) the matter should be referred back to the Minister for Social Security in order that further information relating to the proposition could be provided to the States.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 19 CONTRE: 32 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator A. Breckon
Senator F.du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. John Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
THE STATES rejected a proposition of Senator Francis Du Heaume Le Gresley that, in accordance with Standing Order 79(2), the Health, Social Security and Housing Scrutiny Panel should be requested to consider having the proposition referred to it.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 19 CONTRE: 29 ABSTAIN: 2
Senator A. Breckon
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. John Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Peter
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St. Ouen
STATES MINUTES
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
8th June 2011
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for Social Security, agreed –
- (i) that the pensionable age should increase from 65 to 67 by 2031;
- that increases in the pensionable age should begin on 1st January 2020;
- that the pensionable age should increase by 2 months a year from 1st January 2020;
- that the number of contribution years (including credited contributions) required for a full pension should increase from 45 to 47 over the time period set out in (a) above;
- to request the Minister for Social Security to bring forward legislation to give effect to the proposals outlined in (a) and (b) above as soon as possible.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 32 CONTRE: 16 ABSTAIN: 2
Senator P.F. Routier Senator T.J. Le Main Senator J.L. Perchard Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin
Senator A. Breckon
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of St. John
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Connétable of St. Clement Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Connétable of St. Peter Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Connétable of St. Mary Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Changes in Presidency
The Deputy Bailiff retired from the Chamber during consideration of the proposition of the Minister for Social Security, entitled Pension age: increase' (P.58/2011) and the meeting continued under the presidency of Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, Greffier of the States.
THE STATES re-assembled after the lunch adjournment under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff . Salaries over £100,000: process for review and scrutiny P.59/2011
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of the States Employment Board concerning a review of salaries over £100,000 and adopting an amendment of Deputy Roy George Le Hérissier of St. Saviour , agreed that in paragraph (b) for the words "a bi-annual report" there should be substituted the words "a quarterly report" and after the words "under this process" there should be inserted the words "with this quarterly report including, in respect of each post, the rationale for payment at this level and for the method of appointment adopted".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 44 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator T.J. Le Main Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the States Employment Board, as amended, approved the Detailed process for approval of Senior Pay' set out in the Appendix to the attached report by the States Employment Board setting out the mechanism to control and monitor senior salaries with the exception of all clinical locum appointments where the appointment was to cover annual leave, sickness and other absences of permanent staff and requested the Board to provide the States with a quarterly report on the posts and the relevant salaries approved under this process with this quarterly report including, in respect of each post, the rationale for payment at this level and for the method of appointment adopted.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 46 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 1 Senator P.F. Routier Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 9th June 2011 to consider the outstanding items of public business.
THE STATES rose at 5.38 p.m.
A.H. HARRIS Deputy Greffier of the States