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States Minutes 12th September 2012

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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 12th September 2012, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , William James Bailhache , Esquire.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson – absent on States business

Senator Ian Joseph Gorst – absent on States business

Deputy James Gordon Reed of St. Ouen – absent on States business

Deputy Anne Enid Pryke of Trinity – excused attendance (arrived in the Chamber at 11.37 a.m.) Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier – excused attendance

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Prayers

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Incorporation of Ports of Jersey P.70/2012

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of the Minister for Economic Development regarding  the  incorporation  of  Ports  of  Jersey  (P.70/2012)  and,  adopting  a  proposition  of   Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade , agreed that, in accordance with Standing Order 83(1)(a) the matter should be referred back to the Minister for Economic Development in order that further information relating to the proposition could be provided to the Assembly.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 25   CONTRE: 22  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator A. Breckon

Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C)


 Senator P.F. Routier

  Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

  Senator L.J. Farnham

  Senator P.M. Bailhache

  Connétable of St. Helier

  Connétable of Trinity

  Connétable of St. Clement   Connétable of St. Peter

  Connétable of St. Mary

  Connétable of St. Ouen

  Connétable of St. Saviour   Deputy of Grouville

  Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

  Deputy of Trinity

  Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)   Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

  Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

  Deputy of St. John

  Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)

  Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

  Deputy of St. Mary

231   Price code: B

Deputy J.H. Young (B)   Deputy of St. Peter Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)

Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

Protection  of  Freedoms  Act  2012:  extension  of  provisions  to  Jersey  by  Order  in  Council P.71/2012

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chief Minister, signified, pursuant to Article 31(1)(b) of the States of Jersey Law 2005, that they agreed that a request should be made to the Privy Council for the making of an Order in Council that would extend to Jersey, with appropriate modifications and adaptations, the provisions of Part 5, Chapter 2 (and part of Chapter 3), of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, together with associated provisions of Schedules 9 and 10 to the said Act, as summarised in the report of the Chief Minister dated 30th July 2012.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 38   CONTRE: 0  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator A. Breckon

Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

Draft Price Indicators (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.72/2012

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Price Indicators (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 45 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A. Breckon

Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator L.J. Farnham Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

Arrangement of business for the current meeting

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Senator Lyndon John Farnham , agreed that the meeting should continue until the remaining items of public business had been debated.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 39 CONTRE: 4 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A. Breckon

Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator L.J. Farnham Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)


Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Brelade

Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

Draft Price Indicators (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.72/2012

THE STATES resumed consideration of the Draft Price Indicators (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 5.

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 2 of the Price and Charge Indicators (Jersey) Law 2008, made Regulations entitled the Price Indicators (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 2012.

Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf , in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(b), declared an interest but remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate.

Use of Electronic Devices in the States Chamber: trial P.73/2012

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Privileges and Procedures Committee, agreed –

  1. that elected members should be permitted to use hand-held and battery-powered electronic devices, including battery-powered laptops, that were silent in operation in the States Chamber during meetings of the States Assembly for a trial period ending on 31st July 2013, provided that the devices did not disturb other members or impair decorum;
  2. to request the Privileges and Procedures Committee to monitor the progress of the trial and report back to the States with recommendations before the end of the trial to enable the Assembly to decide at that stage whether to allow such devices to be used on a permanent basis or whether their use should be prohibited.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 6 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A. Breckon Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator L.J. Farnham Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)


Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Brelade

Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

Jersey Appointments Commission: appointment of Chairman P.75/2012

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chief Minister, agreed, in accordance with Article 18(1) of the Employment of States of Jersey Employees (Jersey) Law 2005, which was concerned with the appointment  of  Commissioners  to  the  Jersey  Appointments  Commission,  to  appoint Mr. Brian Curtis , M.B.E. as Chairman for an initial period terminating on 23rd February 2014.

Arrangement of public business for future meetings

THE STATES agreed the following arrangement of public business for future meetings proposed, as amended,  by  the  Chairman  of  the  Privileges  and  Procedures  Committee  in  accordance  with  the provisions of Standing Order 88(3) –

25th September 2012

Draft Taxation (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Jersey) Regulations 201-.  P.74/2012. Lodged: 9th August 2012.

Chief Minister.

Draft Banking Business (Depositors Compensation) (Amendment and Miscellaneous  P.78/2012. Provision) (Jersey) Regulations 201-.

Lodged: 14th August 2012.

Minister for Economic Development.

Draft Banking (Depositors Compensation Supplementary Provisions) (Jersey)  P.77/2012. Regulations 201-.

Lodged: 14th August 2012.

Minister for Economic Development.

STATES MINUTES

Draft Banking Business (Amendment No. 8) (Jersey) Law 201-. Lodged: 14th August 2012.

Minister for Economic Development.

Draft Bankruptcy (Désastre) (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Law 201-. Lodged: 14th August 2012.

Minister for Economic Development.


12th September 2012 P.76/2012.

P.79/2012.

9th October 2012

Incorporation of Ports of Jersey.  P.70/2012. Lodged: 27th July 2012.

Minister for Economic Development.

Historic Abuse Redress Scheme: approval by the States Assembly.  P.80/2012. Lodged: 3rd September 2012.

Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier .

Draft Social Security (Amendment No. 20) (Jersey) Law 2012 (Appointed Day) Act  P.81/2012. 201-.

Lodged: 10th September 2012.

Minister for Social Security.

Jersey Police Complaints Authority: appointment of Chairman and members.  P.83/2012. Lodged: 11th September 2012.

Minister for Home Affairs.

23rd October 2012

Health and Social Services: A New Way Forward.  P.82/2012. Lodged: 11th September 2012.

Council of Ministers.

Draft Health Care Registration (No. 4) (Jersey) Regulations 201-.  P.84/2012. Lodged: 11th September 2012.

Minister for Health and Social Services.

6th November 2012

Medium Term Financial Plan 2013 – 2015.  P.69/2012. Lodged: 23rd July 2012.

Council of Ministers.

THE STATES rose at 1.37 p.m.

M.N. DE LA HAYE Greffier of the States