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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 3rd December 2013, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , William James Bailhache , Esquire.
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His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, General Sir John McColl, K.C.B., C.B.E., D.S.O. was present.
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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Paul Francis Routier – en défaut (défaut raised at 2.18 p.m.)
Connétable John Martin Refault of St. Peter – en défaut
Deputy Trevor Mark Pitman of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.32 a.m.) Deputy Tracey Anne Vallois of St. Saviour – ill
Deputy James Patrick Gorton Baker of St. Helier – absent on States business Deputy Kristina Louise Moore of St. Peter – ill
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Prayers
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Documents presented or laid
Long-Term Care legislation: P.136/2013, P.137/2013, P.138/2013, P.139/2013, P.136/2013. P.140/2013, P.141/2013, P.142/2013 – comments. through to Presented: 3rd December 2013. P.142/2013. Health, Social Security and Housing Scrutiny Panel. Com.
Draft Long-Term Care (States Contribution) (Jersey) Regulations 201- (P.140/2013) – P.140/2013. addendum. Add. Presented: 3rd December 2013.
Minister for Social Security.
Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – transfer of land at 7 Francis Street, R.148/2013. St. Helier .
Presented: 3rd December 2013.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Fiscal Policy Panel Report: response of the Minister for Treasury and Resources. R.149/2013. Presented: 3rd December 2013.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft 2014 Budget (S.R.13/2013): response of the Minister for Treasury and S.R.13/2013. Resources. Res. Presented: 3rd December 2013.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
431 Price code: B
Draft Budget Statement 2014 P.122/2013
THE STATES commenced consideration of the draft Budget Statement 2014 (P.122/2013) and rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier (P.122/2013 (Amendment)) that in paragraph (a) after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –
"except that –
- income tax exemptions for the year of assessment 2014 shall not be increased by 1.5% as proposed in the draft Budget Statement;
- the marginal rate for the year of assessment 2014 shall not be decreased from 27% to 26% as proposed in the draft Budget Statement;
- the estimate of income from taxation during 2014 shall be decreased by £5 million by zero-rating or exempting from Goods and Services Tax foodstuffs in line with United Kingdom Value Added Tax arrangements and domestic fuel and energy with effect from 1st July 2014."
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 10 CONTRE: 33 ABSTAIN: 1 Senator A. Breckon Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Senator S.C. Ferguson
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Deputy of Grouville Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Deputy S. Pitman (H) Senator I.J. Gorst
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Senator L.J. Farnham
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Connétable of St. Helier
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Connétable of Trinity
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of Grouville
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C)
Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier (P.122/2013 (Amendment)) that in paragraph (a) of the Budget Statement 2014, after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –
"except that income tax exemptions for the year of assessment 2014 shall be increased by 2.2% and not by 1.5% as proposed in the draft Budget Statement."
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 11 CONTRE: 29 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator A. Breckon Senator P.F. Routier Connétable of St. Mary Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Deputy of St. Ouen Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Senator I.J. Gorst
Deputy S. Pitman (H) Connétable of St. Helier
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Connétable of Trinity
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Connétable of St. Clement
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Connétable of St. Lawrence
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of Grouville
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
THE STATES rejected paragraph (a) of an amendment of Deputy John Hilary Young of St. Brelade (P.122/2013 Amendment (4)) that in paragraph (a) of the Budget Statement 2014, after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –
"except that –
- the higher child allowance (comprising the additional tax relief of £3,000 proposed in the draft Budget Statement and the existing £6,000 allowance making a total of £9,000) for the year of assessment 2014 due to taxpayers whose income for 2014 falls below the income tax exemption thresholds with children over the age of 17 in higher education, may, by agreement, be wholly or partly transferred to a relative (including grandparents) of the tax exempted taxpayer, who has provided financial support to a child relative under 25 years (including grandchildren) for higher education purposes and such relative shall then qualify for this income tax relief;
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 14 CONTRE: 29 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of Grouville
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
THE STATES, adopting paragraph (b) of an amendment of Deputy John Hilary Young of St. Brelade (P.122/2013 Amendment (4)), agreed that in paragraph (a) of the Budget Statement 2014, after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –
"except that –
- the estimate of income from taxation during 2014 shall be decreased by £20,000 by reducing the de minimus limit on charitable donations on which the charity may reclaim the tax applicable from £100 to £50;
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 41 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
THE STATES rejected paragraph (c) of an amendment of Deputy John Hilary Young of St. Brelade (P.122/2013 Amendment (4)) that in paragraph (a) of the Budget Statement 2014, after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –
"except that –
- mortgage interest relief shall be extended for the year of assessment 2014 on loans for purposes other than the acquisition and extension of the taxpayer's principal personal residence so that itis available for home improvement works and home energy efficiency measures carried out by local contractors subject to limits on loan interest eligible for these additional purposes, interest limits to be based on a loan of £30,000 for home improvements and a loan of £20,000 for energy efficiency measures;
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 16 CONTRE: 29 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator L.J. Farnham Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of Grouville
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
THE STATES rejected paragraph (d) of an amendment of Deputy John Hilary Young of St. Brelade (P.122/2013 Amendment (4)) that in paragraph (a) of the Budget Statement 2014, after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –
- health insurance premiums paid shall qualify for relief from income tax for the year of assessment 2014;
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 21 CONTRE: 25 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator L.J. Farnham Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
STATES MINUTES
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
3rd December 2013
Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier (P.122/2013 Amendment (5)) that in paragraph (a) of the Budget Statement 2014, after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the age of entitlement for single, married persons and civil partners to the higher income tax exemption threshold shall not be increased for the year of assessment 2014 from 63 years to 65 years as proposed in the draft Budget Statement".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 14 CONTRE: 29 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of Grouville
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
THE STATES commenced consideration of paragraphs (e) and (f) of an amendment of Deputy John Hilary Young of St. Brelade (P.122/2013 (Amendment 4)) to paragraph (a) of the Budget Statement 2014.
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 4th December 2013, to continue consideration of the Budget Statement 2014 (P.122/2013) and associated amendments and the outstanding items of public business.
THE STATES rose at 5.30 p.m.
A.H. HARRIS Deputy Greffier of the States