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THE STATES assembled on Thursday 19th January 2017, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,
William James Bailhache , Esquire.
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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Lyndon John Farnham – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.57 a.m.) Senator Sir Philip Martin Bailhache – en défaut
Connétable Stephen William Pallett of St. Brelade – ill
Connétable Sadie Anthea Le Sueur -Rennard of St. Saviour – ill
Deputy Kristina Louise Moore of St. Peter – absent on States business Deputy Richard John Rondel of St. Helier – ill
Deputy Louise Mary Catherine Doublet of St. Saviour – excused attendance
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Prayers
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Documents presented or laid
Composition and Election of the States Assembly (P.133/2016): comments. P.133/2016. Presented: 19th January 2017. Com. Privileges and Procedures Committee.
Future Hospital Funding Strategy P.130/2016
THE STATES, resuming consideration of the proposition of the Deputy of St. Ouen , agreed that, in accordance with Standing Order 79(1), the Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel should be requested to consider having the proposition of the Minister for Treasury and Resources entitled Future Hospital Funding Strategy' (P.130/2016), as amended, referred to it.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 29 CONTRE: 13 ABSTAIN: 1 Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator P.F. Routier Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Connétable of St. Helier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Connétable of St. Clement Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Connétable of St. Lawrence Senator I.J. Gorst
Connétable of St. Mary Senator L.J. Farnham
Connétable of St. Ouen Senator A.K.F. Green
Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of Grouville Deputy of Trinity
Connétable of St. John Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Connétable of Trinity Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy A.D. Lewis (H)
Deputy of Grouville Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)
THE STATES, having agreed to the proposition of the Deputy of St. Ouen , noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 79(3), the debate on the proposition of the Minister for Treasury and Resources entitled Future Hospital Funding Strategy' (P.130/2016), as amended, was suspended until the next meeting.
Changes in Presidency
The Bailiff retired from the Chamber during consideration of the proposition of the Deputy of St. Ouen , and the meeting continued under the presidency of Dr. Mark Egan, Greffier of the States.
States of Jersey Law 2005: proposed amendment – States Members' qualifications for election P.138/2016
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier entitled States of Jersey Law 2005: proposed amendment – States Members' qualifications for election' (P.138/2016) and, adopting paragraph (a), agreed to request the Privileges and Procedures Committee to bring forward amendments to the States of Jersey Law 2005 to repeal Articles 4A, 7 and 8 of the States of Jersey Law 2005 and to replace them with a new Article or Articles to standardise the requirements relating to the qualification and disqualification for election in the States Assembly, so that all members ( Connétable s, Senators and Deputies) would be subject to the same requirements.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 26 CONTRE: 14 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. John
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy A.D. Lewis (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy M.J. Norton (B)
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)
THE STATES rejected paragraph (b) of the proposition of Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier , that the Privileges and Procedures Committee be requested to bring forward amendments to the States of Jersey Law 2005 to further amend Article 8 of the States of Jersey Law 2005, in order to bring the disqualification period for bankrupts into line with the Bankruptcy (Désastre) (Jersey) Law 1990.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 14 CONTRE: 29 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator A.K.F. Green
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of Trinity
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy A.D. Lewis (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy M.J. Norton (B)
Deputy T.A. McDonald (S)
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)
Arrangement of public business for future meetings
THE STATES rejected a proposition of Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf that the proposition of Deputy Andrew David Lewis of St. Helier entitled Composition and Election of the States Assembly' (P.133/2016), and accompanying amendments, be listed for debate at the meeting of 14th February 2017.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 8 CONTRE: 31 ABSTAIN: 2
Senator P.F. Routier Senator A.J.H. Maclean Connétable of St. Peter Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Mary Senator I.J. Gorst Senator S.C. Ferguson
Deputy of Grouville Connétable of St. Helier
Deputy of Trinity Connétable of St. Clement
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Connétable of St. Lawrence
Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Connétable of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Mary Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of Trinity
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Deputy A.D. Lewis (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy S.M. Bree (C)
Deputy T.A. McDonald (S)
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)
Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee, agreed to meet at 2.45 p.m. on Monday 30th January 2017, to consider appointments, questions and statements in order that consideration of public business scheduled for the next meeting could begin at 9.30 a.m. on Tuesday 31st January 2017.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 28 CONTRE: 11 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Helier Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. John
STATES MINUTES
Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy of St. John
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)
19th January 2017
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee, agreed to schedule Friday 3rd February 2017 as a continuation day for the next meeting, to be used in the event that public business at the next meeting was not completed by the end of Thursday 2nd February 2017.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 29 CONTRE: 9 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Helier Senator A.K.F. Green
Connétable of St. Clement Senator S.C. Ferguson
Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John
Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy R. Labey (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Deputy A.D. Lewis (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)
Deputy S.M. Bree (C)
Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)
THE STATES agreed the following arrangement of public business for future meetings proposed, as amended, by the Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 88(3) –
31st January 2017
Vote of No Confidence: States Employment Board. P.137/2016. Lodged: 20th December 2016.
Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier .
Draft Commissioner for Standards (Jersey) Law 201-. P.87/2016. Lodged: 23rd August 2016.
Privileges and Procedures Committee.
Draft Commissioner for Standards (Jersey) Law 201- (P.87/2016): amendment. P.87/2016. Lodged: 1st November 2016. Amd. Chief Minister.
Draft Commissioner for Standards (Jersey) Law 201- (P.87/2016): second amendment. P.87/2016. Lodged: 17th January 2017. Amd.(2). Chief Minister.
Composition and Election of the States Assembly. P.133/2016. Lodged: 12th December 2016.
Deputy A.D. Lewis of St. Helier .
Composition and Election of the States Assembly (P.133/2016): amendment. P.133/2016. Lodged: 13th January 2017. Amd. Senator P.F.C. Ozouf .
Draft Bank (Recovery and Resolution) (Jersey) Law 201-. P.134/2016. Lodged: 20th December 2016.
Chief Minister.
Draft Bank Depositors Compensation (Jersey) Law 201-. P.135/2016. Lodged: 20th December 2016.
Chief Minister.
Draft The Law Society of Jersey (Amendment No. 4) Law 201-. P.136/2016. Lodged: 20th December 2016.
Chief Minister.
14th February 2017
Draft Employment of States of Jersey Employees (Amendment No. 8) (Jersey) P.105/2016. Regulations 201-.
Lodged: 5th October 2016.
States Employment Board.
Draft Employment of States of Jersey Employees (Amendment No. 8) (Jersey) P.105/2016. Regulations 201- (P.105/2016): amendment. Amd. Lodged: 23rd December 2016.
States Employment Board.
Draft Employment of States of Jersey Employees (Amendment No. 8) (Jersey) P.105/2016. Regulations 201- (P.105/2016): amendment (P.105/2016 Amd.) – comments. Amd.Com. Presented: 12th January 2017.
Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.
Television Licence Fee: exemption for Jersey residents aged 75 and over. P.117/2016. Lodged: 4th November 2016.
Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade .
Funding for Family Nursing and Home Care services – petition. P.122/2016. Lodged: 15th November 2016.
Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .
Draft States of Jersey Police Force (Chief Officer and Deputy Chief Officer) (Jersey) P.139/2016. Regulations 201-.
Lodged: 30th December 2016.
Minister for Home Affairs.
Draft States of Jersey Police Force (Police Negotiating Board) (Jersey) P.140/2016. Regulations 201-.
Lodged: 30th December 2016.
Minister for Home Affairs.
Senators and Deputies: candidates' qualifications. P.1/2017. Lodged: 6th January 2017.
Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade .
14th March 2017
Draft Criminal Justice (Compensation Orders) (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Law 201-. P.2/2017. Lodged: 10th January 2017.
Chief Minister.
20th June 2017
Millennium Town Park: additional open space and public parking. P.123/2016. Lodged: 22nd November 2016.
Connétable of St. Helier .
THE STATES rose at 11.46 a.m.
DR. M. EGAN Greffier of the States