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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 1st February 2017, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , Timothy John Le Cocq , Esquire.
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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.50 a.m.)
Senator Alan John Henry Maclean – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.39 a.m.)
Senator Ian Joseph Gorst – excused attendance (arrived in the Chamber at 10.20 a.m.)
Senator Lyndon John Farnham – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.39 a.m.)
Deputy John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré of St. Lawrence – excused attendance
Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier – ill
Deputy Richard John Rondel of St. Helier – ill
Deputy Louise Mary Catherine Doublet of St. Saviour – excused attendance
Deputy Scott Michael Wickenden of St. Helier – excused attendance (arrived in the Chamber at 2.25 p.m.) Deputy Murray Julian Norton of St. Brelade – excused attendance
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Prayers
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Documents presented
States of Jersey Law 2005: delegation of functions – the Environment – Scheme of R.12/2017. delegations – February 2017.
Presented: 1st February 2017.
Minister for the Environment.
Draft Commissioner for Standards (Jersey) Law 201- P.87/2016
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Commissioner for Standards (Jersey) Law 201- and adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 38 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator P.F. Routier Deputy of Grouville
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator L.J. Farnham
Senator P.M. Bailhache
Senator A.K.F. Green
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy of St. John Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, commenced consideration of Article 1.
THE STATES commenced consideration of paragraph (1) of an amendment of the Chief Minister (P.87/2016 Amd.(2)) that, in Article 1, in the definition "code", in paragraph (b) the words "and code of practice" should be deleted.
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade that, in accordance with Standing Order 83(1)(a), the Draft Commissioner for Standards (Jersey) Law 201- (P.87/2016), as well as the amendment of the Chief Minister (P.87/2016 Amd.(2)), should be referred back to the Privileges and Procedures Committee, in order that further information relating to the Draft Law and the amendment could be provided to the Assembly.
THE STATES, following discussion, acceded to a request by Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade , in accordance with Standing Order 69(4), that his proposition under Standing Order 83(1)(a) be withdrawn.
THE STATES, resuming consideration of the amendment of the Chief Minister, rejected paragraph (1) of the amendment that, in Article 1, in the definition "code", in paragraph (b) the words "and code of practice" should be deleted.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 20 CONTRE: 22 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Connétable of St. Clement Senator A.J.H. Maclean Connétable of St. Mary Senator I.J. Gorst Connétable of St. Brelade Senator L.J. Farnham Connétable of St. Saviour Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of Grouville
STATES MINUTES
Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)
1st February 2017
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of Trinity
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Deputy A.D. Lewis (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy R. Labey (H)
Deputy S.M. Bree (C)
Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary
THE STATES, resuming consideration of the Draft Commissioner for Standards (Jersey) Law 201-, adopted Article 1.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 37 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham
Senator A.K.F. Green
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of Trinity
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Deputy A.D. Lewis (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)
THE STATES acceded to a request by the Assistant Chief Minister, Senator Paul Francis Routier, M.B.E., acting as rapporteur for the amendment of the Chief Minister (P.87/2016 Amd.(2)) that, in accordance with Standing Order 69(4), paragraph (2) of the amendment be withdrawn.
THE STATES adopted Articles 2 to 8. THE STATES adopted Article 9 to 19.
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Commissioner for Standards (Jersey) Law 201-.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 41 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 1 Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham
Senator P.M. Bailhache
Senator A.K.F. Green
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of Trinity
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Deputy A.D. Lewis (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)
Composition and Election of the States Assembly P.133/2016
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Andrew David Lewis of St. Helier entitled Composition and Election of the States Assembly' (P.133/2016).
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf , agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of an amendment to his amendment (P.133/2016 Amd.Amd.) in order that it might be debated at the present meeting.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 35 CONTRE: 3 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
THE STATES commenced consideration of an amendment of Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf (P.133/2016 Amd.) that, for paragraph (a), there should be substituted the following paragraph: "(a) to agree that it should establish an Assembly of 38 Members comprising 6 Senators elected Island-wide , 12 Parish Connétable s elected from within the current Parish boundaries and 20 Deputies elected from 6 Parish-based districts, each choosing 3 Deputies, with the exception of St. Helier Districts 1 and 2, which would each choose 4 Deputies in addition to their Parish Connétable ;"; in the table, for the word "Senators" there should be substituted the word "Deputies" and in the second column, for the numbers "6" and "5" there should be substituted the numbers "4" and "3" respectively; and in paragraph (c) for the numbers "44" and "19" there should be substituted the numbers "38" and "18" respectively.
THE STATES, adopting an amendment to that amendment (P.133/2016 Amd.Amd.), agreed that in the substituted paragraph (a), for the words "38 Members", "20 Deputies", "3 Deputies" and "4 Deputies", there should be substituted the words "44 Members", "26 Deputies", "4 Deputies" and "5 Deputies" respectively; for the words " 4' and 3' " there should be substituted the words " 5' and 4' "; and that paragraph 3 should be deleted.
THE STATES resumed consideration of an amendment of Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf (P.133/2016 Amd.), as amended, and rejected the proposition that –
- for paragraph (a), there should be substituted the following paragraph –
"(a) to agree that it should establish an Assembly of 44 Members comprising 6 Senators
elected Island-wide , 12 Parish Connétable s elected from within the current Parish boundaries and 26 Deputies elected from 6 Parish-based districts, each choosing 4 Deputies, with the exception of St. Helier Districts 1 and 2, which would each choose 5 Deputies in addition to their Parish Connétable ;".
- in the table in paragraph (b), for the word "Senators" there should be substituted the word "Deputies" and in the second column, for the numbers "6" and "5" should be substituted the numbers "5" and "4" respectively.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 19 CONTRE: 25 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator A.K.F. Green Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Deputy of Trinity
Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)
Senator P.M. Bailhache
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Deputy A.D. Lewis (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy R. Labey (H)
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)
THE STATES commenced consideration of an amendment of Senator Lyndon John Farnham (P.133/2016 Amd.(2)) that –
- for paragraph (a) there should be substituted the following paragraph –
"(a) to agree that it should establish an Assembly of 48 Members comprising 12 Parish
Connétable s elected from within the current Parish boundaries, 8 Senators elected on an Island-wide basis and 28 Deputies elected from 6 large districts, in accordance with the table set out in paragraph (b) below;".
- for the table in paragraph (b) there should be substituted the following table –
Constituencies | Number of Deputies to be returned |
District 1: St. Helier North Vingtaine du Mont Cochon, Vingtaine du Mont à l'Abbé, Vingtaine du Haut du Mont au Prêtre, and Vingtaine du Rouge Bouillon, in the Parish of St. Helier . | 6 |
District 2 : St. Helier South Cantons de Bas et de Haut de la Vingtaine de la Ville, and Vingtaine de Bas du Mont au Prêtre, in the Parish of St. Helier . | 6 |
District 3 : South-East District Parish of St. Clement , and Parish of Grouville . | 4 |
District 4: East Central District Parish of St. Martin , and Parish of St. Saviour . | 4 |
District 5: North Central District Parish of St. John , Parish of St. Lawrence , Parish of St. Mary , and Parish of Trinity . | 4 |
District 6: West District Parish of St. Brelade , Parish of St. Ouen , and Parish of St. Peter . | 4 |
- in paragraph (c), for the number "44" there should be substituted the number "48".
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 2nd February 2017 to resume consideration of the amendment of Senator Lyndon Farnham (P.133/2016 Amd.(2)) to the proposition of Deputy Andrew David Lewis of St. Helier entitled Composition and Election of the States Assembly' (P.133/2016), and the other outstanding items of public business.
THE STATES rose at 5.26 p.m.
DR. M. EGAN Greffier of the States