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States Minutes 21st May 2019

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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 21st May 2019, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , Timothy John Le Cocq , Esquire.

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His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor,

Air Chief Marshall Sir Stephen Dalton, G.C.B., LL.D. (Hon.), D.Sc. (Hon.), B.Sc., F.R.Ae.S., C.C.M.I. was present.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Lyndon John Farnham – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.37 a.m.)

Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.40 a.m.)

Senator Kristina Louise Moore – absent on States business

Connétable Alan Simon Crowcroft of St. Helier – absent on States business Connétable Deidre Wendy Mezbourian of St. Lawrence – absent on States business Connétable Michael Keith Jackson of St. Brelade – absent on States business Deputy Judith Ann Martin of St. Helier – absent on States business

Deputy Carolyn Fiona Labey of Grouville – absent on States business

Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier – absent on States business

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Prayers

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Subordinate enactments tabled

The following enactments were tabled, namely –

Taxation (Implementation) (International Tax Compliance) (Common Reporting  R&O.34/2019. Standard) (Amendment – Participating Jurisdictions) (Jersey) Order 2019.

Minister for External Relations.

EU Legislation (Sanctions – Republic of Maldives) (Amendment) (Jersey) Order 2019.  R&O.35/2019. Minister for External Relations.

Income Support (General Provisions) (Amendment No. 23) (Jersey) Order 2019.  R&O.36/2019. Minister for Social Security.

Documents presented

Draft Revenue Administration (Jersey) Law 201- (P.122/2018): comments.  P.122/2018. Presented: 20th May 2019.  Com. Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Le Port Car Park, St. Peter : rescindment of parking restrictions (P.33/2019) –  P.33/2019. comments.  Com. Presented: 20th May 2019.

Comité des Connétable s.

Le Port Car Park, St. Peter : rescindment of parking restrictions (P.33/2019) –  P.33/2019. comments of the Ministers for Infrastructure and the Environment.  Com.(2) Presented: 20th May 2019.

Minister for Infrastructure.

Draft Sea Fisheries (Minimum Size Limits) (Amendment No. 7) (Jersey)  P.41/2019. Regulations 201- (P.41/2019): comments. Com. Presented: 13th May 2019.

Environment, Housing and Infrastructure Scrutiny Panel.

Draft Motor Vehicles (Removal from Private Land) (Jersey) Regulations 201-  P.43/2019. (P.43/2019): comments.  Com. Presented: 17th May 2019.

Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel.

Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Annual Report and Accounts for the  R.50/2019. year ended 31 December 2018.

Presented: 7th May 2019.

Comptroller and Auditor General.

States Greffe Business Plan 2019.  R.51/2019. Presented: 7th May 2019.

Privileges and Procedures Committee.

States of Jersey Law 2005: delegation of functions – Minister for Infrastructure –  R.52/2019. delegations to Assistant Minister.

Presented: 8th May 2019.

Minister for Infrastructure.

Notice in accordance with Article 29A(3) of the States of Jersey Law 2005 of the  R.53/2019. intention to make an Order to transfer legislative functions from the Chief Minister to

the Minister for External Relations.

Presented: 10th May 2019.

Chief Minister.

New Hospital project: next steps. R.54/2019. Presented: 13th May 2019.

Chief Minister.

Director of Civil Aviation: Annual Report 2018.  R.55/2019. Presented: 13th May 2019.

Minister for External Relations.

States of Jersey Law 2005: delegation of functions – Minister for Children and  R.56/2019. Housing – Redress Scheme.

Presented: 20th May 2019.

Minister for Children and Housing.

Charity Commissioner's Annual Report 2018. R.57/2019. Presented: 21st May 2019.

Minister for External Relations.

Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – La Collette, St. Helier – Open  R.58/2019. Storage Plot – agreement to lease and lease out.

Presented: 21st May 2019.

Minister for Infrastructure.

Policy relating to necessary legislative change as part of departmental restructuring. R.59/2019. Presented: 21st May 2019.

Chief Minister.

Control of Housing and Work (Jersey) Law 2012: Residential and Employment  R.60/2019. Status – Policy Guidance – May 2019.

Presented: 21st May 2019.

Chief Minister.

Organisational Culture and Corporate Learning.  P.A.C.2/2019. Presented: 20th May 2019.

Public Accounts Committee.

Notification of lodged propositions

Draft Public Finances (Jersey) Law 201- (P.28/2019): amendment. P.28/2019. Lodged: 21st May 2019.  Amd. Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Draft Public Finances (Jersey) Law 201- (P.28/2019): second amendment.  P.28/2019. Lodged: 21st May 2019.  Amd.(2) Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Draft Public Finances (Jersey) Law 201- (P.28/2019): third amendment.  P.28/2019. Lodged: 21st May 2019.  Amd.(3) Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Draft Public Finances (Jersey) Law 201- (P.28/2019): fourth amendment. P.28/2019. Lodged: 21st May 2019.  Amd.(4) Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Public Finances (Jersey) Law 201- (P.28/2019): fifth amendment.  P.28/2019. Lodged: 21st May 2019.  Amd.(5) Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Cats: additional protection when involved in road traffic accidents (P.30/2019) –  P.30/2019. amendment.  Amd. Lodged: 16th May 2019.

Deputy J.M. Maçon of St. Saviour .

Green Street: proposal to make one-way.  P.50/2019. Lodged: 10th May 2019.

Deputy R. Labey of St. Helier .

Draft International Co-operation (Protection from Liability) (Jersey) Law 2018  P.51/2019. (Appointed Day) Act 201-.

Lodged: 14th May 2019.

Chief Minister.

Bus services: proposals to make free of charge.  P.52/2019. Lodged: 14th May 2019.

Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier .

Housing developments for first-time buyers: allocation criteria.  P.53/2019. Lodged: 15th May 2019.

Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier .

Employment (Jersey) Law 2003: review of parental leave rights amendments. P.54/2019. Lodged: 21st May 2019.

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet of St. Saviour .

Vote of No Confidence: States Employment Board. P.55/2019. Lodged: 21st May 2019.

Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .

Legal Aid Guidelines Advisory Committee – appointment of members

In accordance with the provisions of Article 6 of the Access to Justice (Jersey) Law 201-, notwithstanding that the Law had yet to receive Royal Assent and be registered in the Royal Court, the Chief Minister nominated Deputy Jeremy Martin Maçon of St. Saviour and Deputy Kirsten Francis Morel of St. Lawrence as members of the Legal Aid Guidelines Advisory Committee.

Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade was nominated by Senator Stephen William Pallett.

THE STATES, having proceeded to a secret ballot, were informed of the following results by the Deputy Bailiff

Deputy Jeremy Martin Maçon of St. Saviour  25 Deputy Kirsten Francis Morel of St. Lawrence  29 Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade  26

The Deputy Bailiff accordingly declared that Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade and Deputy Kirsten Francis Morel of St. Lawrence had been duly appointed as members of the Legal Aid Guidelines Advisory Committee.

Written Questions

(see Official Report/Hansard)

WQ.162/2019  1.  The  Chief  Minister  tabled  an  answer  to  a  question  asked  by   Deputy  J.H. Perchard  of

St. Saviour regarding the diversity of States Boards.

WQ.206/2019  2.  The Minister for Children and Housing tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy

K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence regarding the appointment of Altair as consultants to the Housing Policy Development Board.

WQ.207/2019  3.  The Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture tabled an answer to a

question asked by Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence regarding the appointment of Metro- Dynamics Limited as consultants to the Government.

WQ.208/2019  4.  The Chairman of the States Employment Board tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier regarding job losses within the public sector.

WQ.209/2019  5.  The Chief Minister tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier

regarding  the  implementation  of  Justice  and  Home  Affairs:  cessation  of  restructure' (P.24/2019).

WQ.210/2019  6.  The Minister for the Environment tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward

of St. Helier regarding the monitoring of air pollution levels.

WQ.211/2019  7.  The Chairman of the States Employment Board tabled an answer to a question asked by

Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier regarding the application of pay protection in respect of the new Target Operating Model.

WQ.212/2019  8.  The Minister for Education tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy J.H. Perchard of

St. Saviour regarding the average earnings of teachers.

WQ.213/2019  9.  The Chairman of the States Employment Board tabled an answer to a question asked by

Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier regarding the ongoing dispute over teachers' pay and conditions.

WQ.214/2019  10. The Minister for Home Affairs tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy J.M. Maçon

of St. Saviour regarding Road Traffic Accidents involving dogs.

WQ.215/2019  11. The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy

K.G. Pamplin of St. Saviour regarding the staffing levels at the General Hospital.

WQ.216/2019  12. The Minister for the Environment tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy

K.G. Pamplin of St. Saviour regarding the Minister's input into proposals for a new Hospital. WQ.217/2019  13. The Minister for Education tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy K.G. Pamplin of

St. Saviour regarding mental health support within the Island's schools.

WQ.218/2019  14. The Minister for Infrastructure tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy K.G. Pamplin

of St. Saviour regarding the proposed merging of Liberation Square and Weighbridge Place. WQ.219/2019  15. H.M. Attorney General tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy K.G. Pamplin of

St. Saviour regarding the legal duties of the States of Jersey and Government of Jersey in

respect of mental health facilities.

WQ.220/2019  16. H.M. Attorney General tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy M.R. Higgins of

St. Helier regarding the payment of defence costs in cases where the client was acquitted or where no evidence was offered.

WQ.221/2019  17. The Minister for Home Affairs tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy M.R. Higgins

of St. Helier regarding the action taken to encourage witnesses to the Independent Jersey Care Inquiry to provide evidence to the States of Jersey Police.

WQ.222/2019  18. The Minister for Home Affairs tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy M.R. Higgins

of St. Helier regarding the legal representation of the States of Jersey Police before the Independent Jersey Care Inquiry.

WQ.223/2019  19. The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy

M.R. Higgins of St. Helier regarding the legal representation of the Health and Community Services Department before the Independent Jersey Care Inquiry.

WQ.224/2019  20. The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy

M.R. Higgins of St. Helier regarding the prescription of opioids.

WQ.225/2019  21. The Minister for the Environment tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy C.S. Alves

of St. Helier regarding the blood tests performed on cats and dogs in relation to pet travel. WQ.226/2019  22. The Minister for Home Affairs tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy C.S. Alves of

St. Helier regarding the reporting of complaints about noise.

WQ.227/2019  23. The Minister for Infrastructure tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy C.S. Alves of

St. Helier regarding the requirement for drivers to apply for an international driving permit post-Brexit.

WQ.228/2019  24. The Chairman of the States Employment Board tabled an answer to a question asked by

Deputy C.S. Alves of St. Helier regarding the turnover of teaching staff.

WQ.229/2019  25. The Minister for Social Security tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy

L.M.C. Doublet of St. Saviour regarding the prospect of religion or belief' being added as a protected characteristic under the Discrimination (Jersey) Law 2013.

Oral Questions

(see Official Report/Hansard)

OQ.121/2019 1.   Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat of St. Helier asked a question of the Vice-Chairman of the States

Employment Board regarding applications for voluntary redundancy in the public sector. OQ.134/2019  2.   Deputy L.M.C. Doublet of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Home Affairs

regarding proposals to allow mixed-sex couples the option of a civil partnership.

OQ.129/2019 3.   Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding the

recommendations of the Jersey Citizens Panel.

OQ.133/2019 4.   Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding measures

to add to the progressivity of the current tax and contributions systems.

OQ.126/2019 5.   Deputy S.M. Ahier of St. Helier asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding the

establishment of a Public Service Ombudsman.

OQ.129/2019 6.   Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding e-mail

correspondence between the Chief Minister and Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade .

OQ.125/2019 7.   Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Infrastructure regarding

improvements to St. John 's Road.

OQ.122/2019 8.   Deputy J.H. Perchard of St. Saviour asked a question of the Chairman of the States

Employment Board regarding the status of negotiations with unions over public sector pay. OQ.127/2019 9.   Deputy K.G. Pamplin of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Home Affairs

regarding the funding of Dewberry House.

OQ.130/2019 10. Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence asked a question of the Assistant Minister for External

Relations regarding the access of Islanders to quality independent financial advice. OQ.128/2019 11. Deputy K.G. Pamplin of St. Saviour asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding the

condition of Orchard House.

OQ.132/2019 12. Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade asked a question of the Minister for Home Affairs regarding

the Customs and Immigrations checks undertaken on journeys from St. Malo to Jersey. OQ.124/2019 13. Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for the Environment

regarding the problem of feral chickens in the Island.

OQ.123/2019 14. Deputy J.H. Perchard of St. Saviour asked a question of the Assistant Chief Minister regarding

the prospect of setting net migration to the Island to zero.

Oral Questions without notice (see Official Report/Hansard)

The Minister for Education answered questions without notice from members. The Chief Minister answered questions without notice from members.

Urgent Oral Question

(see Official Report/Hansard)

Deputy Kirsten Francis Morel of St. Lawrence asked the following question of the Minister for External Relation which the Bailiff had allowed in accordance with Standing Order 15 relating to urgent oral questions –

"Is the Government proposing to reconsider its position on public registers of beneficial ownership and, if so, could he explain the reasons why?"

Statements on a matter of official responsibility (see Official Report/Hansard)

The Assistant Minister for Education made a statement regarding the Post-16 Education Consultation. Draft Revenue Administration (Jersey) Law 201- P.122/2018

THE STATES resumed consideration of the Draft Revenue Administration (Jersey) Law 201-, the matter having been referred back to the Minister for Treasury and Resources on 26th February 2019 for further information relating to the proposition to be provided to the Assembly, and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 27 CONTRE: 3 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary


Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)

Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 7 and Schedule 1.

THE STATES adopted Articles 8 and 9.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 33  CONTRE: 1  ABSTAIN: 0 Senator I.J. Gorst   Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)

Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Martin

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H)

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C)

Deputy K.F. Morel (L)

Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H)

Deputy J.H. Perchard (S)

Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)

Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES adopted Articles 10 to 15.

THE STATES commenced consideration of Articles 16 to 21 and, adopting an amendment of the Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel, agreed –

In Article 17(2) for the words "Minister may specify by Order" there should be substituted the words "the States may specify by Regulations".

In Article 18(3) for the words "Minister may specify by Order" there should be substituted the words "the States may specify by Regulations".

In Article 19(2) for the words "Minister may specify by Order" there should be substituted the words "the States may specify by Regulations".

THE STATES adopted Articles 16 to 21, as amended. THE STATES adopted Articles 22 to 25.

The Minister for Treasury and Resources did not propose Article 26, which dealt with the duty to produce records.

THE STATES adopted Articles 27 and 28.

THE STATES adopted Articles 29 to 32 and Schedules 2 and 3.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Revenue Administration (Jersey) Law 201-.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Le Port Car Park, St. Peter : rescindment of parking restrictions P.33/2019

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Senator Stephen William Pallett entitled Le Port Car Park, St. Peter : rescindment of parking restrictions' (P.33/2019) and acceded to a request by the Senator, in accordance with Standing Order 69(4), that paragraph (a) of his proposition be withdrawn.

THE STATES, resuming consideration of the proposition of Senator Stephen William Pallett, rejected an amendment of Deputy Jeremy Martin Maçon of St. Saviour (P.33/2019 Amd.) that, after paragraph (b), there should be inserted the following new paragraph (c) –

"(c) to request the Minister for Infrastructure and the Comité des Connétable s, as part of the

aforementioned consultation process, to examine whether Parish Assemblies are the most appropriate forum for the determination of permits and revocation of areas of the Island to be used for the above purposes; and",

and the original paragraph (c) should be re-designated as paragraph (d).

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 16 CONTRE: 21 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of Grouville Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)

THE STATES, adopting the proposition of Senator Stephen William Pallett –

  1. requested the Minister for Infrastructure to consult with the Comité des Connétable s and other key stakeholder groups to identify and agree a list of designated areas for motorhome use around the Island and to bring forward policy guidelines, including a potential fee structure for the use of those aforementioned designated areas, for consideration by the Assembly; and
  2. requested the Minister for the Environment to review the permits relating to motorhome/ campervan use to ensure that any habitable use in the Island was limited to 24 hours within any 7 day period within a designated area and in accordance with any revised policy guidelines and fees arising from paragraph (a).

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 20  CONTRE: 18  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Martin Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)

Changes in Presidency

The Deputy Bailiff retired from the Chamber during consideration of the proposition of Senator Stephen William Pallett entitled Le Port Car Park, St. Peter : rescindment of parking restrictions' (P.33/2019) and the meeting continued under the Presidency of Dr. Mark Egan, Greffier of the States. The Deputy Bailiff returned to the Chamber during consideration of the same proposition and the meeting continued under his Presidency.

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), Deputy Jeremy Martin Maçon of St. Saviour had informed the Greffier of the States that his proposition entitled Proposed merging of Liberation Square and the Weighbridge: cessation of project' (P.34/2019) had been withdrawn.

Draft Banking Business (Amendment of Law) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.36/2019

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Banking Business (Amendment of Law) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 32  CONTRE: 0  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 6.

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 45A and 51 of the Banking Business (Jersey) Law 1991, made Regulations entitled the Banking Business (Amendment of Law) (Jersey) Regulations 2019.

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES noted that the Chairman of the States Employment Board had informed the Greffier, in accordance with Standing Order 30(2), that the Draft Public Employees (Contributory Retirement Scheme) (Compensatory Added Years) (Amendments) (Jersey) Regulations 201- (P.37/2019) and the Draft Public Employees (Pension Scheme) (Transitional Provisions, Savings and Consequential Amendments) (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 201- (P.38/2019) would be deferred from the present meeting to 4th June 2019.

Draft Sea Fisheries (Minimum Size Limits) (Amendment No. 7) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.41/2019

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Sea Fisheries (Minimum Size Limits) (Amendment No. 7) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 33 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 and 2.

THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 2 and 6 of the Sea Fisheries (Jersey) Law 1994, made Regulations entitled the Sea Fisheries (Minimum Size Limits) (Amendment No. 7) (Jersey) Regulations 2019.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 34 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Commissioners of Appeal for Taxes: appointment P.42/2019

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for Treasury and Resource entitled Commissioners of Appeal for Taxes: appointment' (P.42/2019), and in accordance with Article 10 of the Income Tax (Jersey) Law 1961, approved the appointment as a Commissioner of Appeal for Taxes, each for a period of 3 years from the date of their appointment, of Ms. Heather-Anne Hubbell and Ms. Gailina Liew.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES, adopting the request of the Minister for Home Affairs, agreed in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of the Draft Motor Vehicles (Removal from Private Land) (Jersey) Regulations 201- (P.43/2019), in order that they might be debated at the present meeting.

Draft Motor Vehicles (Removal from Private Land) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.43/2019

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Motor Vehicles (Removal from Private Land) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 39 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 12.

THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 2, 3, 5 and 7 of the Motor Vehicles (Removal from Private Land) (Jersey) Law 2019, made Regulations entitled the Motor Vehicles (Removal from Private Land) (Jersey) Regulations 2019.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 41 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Greville Bathe Fund: appointment of Jurats P.45/2019

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for Treasury and Resources entitled Greville Bathe Fund: appointment of Jurats' (P.45/2019), approved the appointments of Jurat Jeremy John Ramsden and Jurat Elizabeth Anne Dulake for the purpose of administering the income of the Greville Bathe Fund.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 41 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 22nd May 2019 to consider in Committee the report of the Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel entitled Assessment of Mental Health Services' (S.R.4/2019).

THE STATES rose at 5.21 p.m.

DR. M. EGAN Greffier of the States