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States Minutes 15th December 2020

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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 15th December 2020, at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,

Timothy John Le Cocq , Esquire.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Deputy Russell Labey of St. Helier – excused attendance (joined at 11.43 a.m.)

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Prayers

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Standing Order 55A – meeting held remotely

THE STATES assembled remotely, in accordance with Standing Order 55A, as the Bailiff considered that it was not possible to convene or maintain a quorate meeting in view of a substantial risk to the health of both States Members and the public.

Oral Questions without notice (see Official Report/Hansard)

A period of questions without notice was held, during which questions were permitted to any Minister on Covid-related matters.

Government Plan 2021–2024 P.130/2020

THE  STATES  resumed  consideration  of  the  proposition  of  the  Council  of  Ministers  entitled Government  Plan  2021–2024'  (P.130/2020),  as  amended,  and  rejected  an  amendment  of   Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier (P.130/2020 Amd.(20)) that in paragraph (f), after the words "Appendix 2 – Summary Tables 5(i) and (ii) of the Report", there should be inserted the words –

",  except  that  in  Summary  Table  5(ii)  the  overall  head  of  expenditure  shall  be  reduced  by £1,000,000 through the removal of funding allocated to States of Jersey Police Firearms Range, and that the overall head of expenditure in Summary Table 5(i) shall be increased by £1,000,000 to allow for a grant to be given to the Sea Cadets Jersey to fund, either completely or substantially, the acquisition of new headquarters"

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 14  CONTRE: 34  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator S.C. Ferguson  Senator I.J. Gorst   Connétable of St. John Senator S.Y. Mézec  Senator L.J. Farnham

Connétable of St. Lawrence  Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré

Connétable of St. Brelade  Senator T.A. Vallois

Connétable of St. Peter  Senator K.L. Moore

Connétable of St. Ouen  Senator S.W. Pallett

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)   Connétable of St. Helier

Deputy M. Tadier (B)   Connétable of St. Clement

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)   Connétable of St. Saviour

Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. John Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)


Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(1)(c), Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson and the Connétable of St. John declared an interest which was not financial, and remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the amendment of Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier (P.130/2020 Amd.(20)).

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Council of Ministers, as amended, and commenced consideration of an amendment of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier (P.130/2020 Amd.(9)).

Changes in Presidency

THE STATES re-assembled after the lunch adjournment under the Presidency of Mrs. Lisa-Marie Hart , Deputy Greffier of the States.

Government Plan 2021–2024 P.130/2020

THE STATES, resuming consideration of the proposition of the Council of Ministers entitled Government Plan 2021–2024' (P.130/2020), as amended, resumed consideration of an amendment of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier (P.130/2020 Amd.(9)) and rejected the amendment that, in paragraph (i), after the words "Appendix 2 – Summary Table 9 to the Report", there should be inserted the words –

", with the remaining balance from the Fund to be made available for use by the Minister for Infrastructure to provide for the establishment from 1st April 2021 of a bus pass scheme for all people eligible to pay fares under the age of 21 (for which a charge of £20 per annum should be levied on the individual), with the overall cost of, take-up of, and customer satisfaction with the scheme to be subsequently reviewed by the Minister and the outcome of the review to be published by the end of the third quarter of 2021"

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 18 CONTRE: 28 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)

Changes in Presidency

Mrs. Lisa-Marie Hart , Deputy Greffier of the States, retired from the Chair during consideration of the amendment of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier (P.130/2020 Amd.(9)) to the proposition of the Council of Ministers entitled Government Plan 2021–2024' (P.130/2020), as amended, and the meeting continued under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff .

Government Plan 2021–2024 P.130/2020

THE STATES, resuming consideration of the proposition of the Council of Ministers entitled Government Plan 2021–2024' (P.130/2020), as amended, rejected an amendment of Senator Kristina Louise Moore (P.130/2020 Amd.(15)) that in paragraph (i), after the words "Appendix 2 – Summary Table 9 to the Report", there should be inserted the words –

", with the remaining balance from the Fund to be made available to allow for the introduction of a scheme whereby the GST paid on the following items may be refunded, with the Minister for Treasury and Resources requested to introduce such a scheme with effect from 1st January 2021 –

  1. photovoltaics and solar panels,
  2. ground and air source heat pumps,
  1. electric boilers,
  2. electric cars, motorbikes, scooters and vans,
  3. electric bikes and cargo bikes,
  4. loft and cavity wall insulation, and
  5. double glazing".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 20  CONTRE: 25  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.H. Perchard (S)

THE STATES, resuming consideration of the proposition of the Council of Ministers, as amended, rejected  an amendment of Deputy Robert James Ward of   St. Helier (P.130/2020 Amd.(18)) that in paragraph (i), after the words "Appendix 2 – Summary Table 9 to the Report", there should be inserted the words –

", except that in Summary Table 5(i) the Revenue Head of Expenditure for Covid-19 Response shall be reduced by £573,717 and such funding allocated to the Head of Expenditure for Children, Young People, Education and Skills to allow for the extension of the school meals pilot to all fully state- funded primary schools with a view to Island-wide provision being in place by the start of term in September 2021 at the latest, or earlier if practicable."

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 22  CONTRE: 25  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator K.L. Moore  Senator I.J. Gorst Senator S.W. Pallett  Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.Y. Mézec  Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier  Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Connétable of St. Lawrence  Senator T.A. Vallois

Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 16th December 2020 to continue consideration of the proposition of the Council of Ministers entitled Government Plan 2021–2024' (P.130/2020), as amended, the outstanding accompanying amendments and the other outstanding items of public business listed for the meeting.

THE STATES rose at 5.35 p.m.

L.-M. HART Deputy Greffier of the States