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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 21st April 2020, at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff , Timothy John Le Cocq , Esquire.

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His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor,

Air Chief Marshall Sir Stephen Dalton, G.C.B., LL.D. (Hon.), D.Sc. (Hon.), B.Sc., F.R.Ae.S., C.C.M.I. was present.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson – excused attendance (joined at 10.04 a.m.)

Connétable Alan Simon Crowcroft of St. Helier – excused attendance (joined at 10.04 a.m.) Connétable John Michael Le Bailly of St. Mary – excused attendance (joined at 10.04 a.m.) Deputy Carolyn Fiona Labey of Grouville – excused attendance (joined at 10.04 a.m.) Deputy Robert David Johnson of St. Mary – excused attendance (joined at 10.04 a.m.)

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Prayers

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Standing Order 55A – meeting held remotely

THE STATES assembled remotely, in accordance with Standing Order 55A, as the Bailiff considered that it was not possible to convene or maintain a quorate meeting in view of a substantial risk to the health of both States Members and the public.

Subordinate enactments tabled

The following enactments were tabled, namely –

Covid-19 (Restricted Movement) (Amendment – Extension) (Jersey) Order 2020. R&O.39/2020. Minister for Health and Social Services.

Planning and Building (General Development) (Amendment No. 5 – Covid-19) R&O.41/2020. (Jersey) Order 2020.

Minister for the Environment.

Control of Housing and Work (Exemptions) (Contributions) (Covid-19 Temporary R&O.43/2020. Amendment) (Jersey) Order 2020.

Chief Minister.

Documents presented

Draft Covid-19 (Emergency Provisions – Courts) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.41/2020. (P.41/2020): comments. Com. Presented: 20th April 2020.

Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Court proceedings: provision of live-streaming for sittings normally held in public P.43/2020. (P.43/2020): comments. Com. Presented: 20th April 2020.

H.M. Attorney General.

Court proceedings: provision of live-streaming for sittings normally held in public P.43/2020. (P.43/2020): comments. Com.(2) Presented: 20th April 2020.

Chief Minister.

Draft Covid-19 (Health Insurance Fund) (Jersey) Regulations 202- (P.45/2020): P.45/2020. comments. Com. Presented: 17th April 2020.

Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel.

Draft Covid-19 (Mental Health) (Jersey) Regulations 202- (P.46/2020): comments. P.46/2020. Presented: 20th April 2020. Com. Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel.

Draft Covid-19 (Capacity and Self-Determination) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.47/2020. (P.47/2020): comments. Com. Presented: 20th April 2020.

Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel.

Draft Covid-19 (Restricted Trading) (Jersey) Regulations 202- (P.48/2020): comments. P.48/2020. Presented: 20th April 2020. Com. Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel.

Draft Covid-19 (Construction Work) (Jersey) Regulations 202- (P.49/2020): comments. P.49/2020. Presented: 20th April 2020. Com. Economic and International Affairs Scrutiny Panel.

Draft Covid-19 (Signing of Instruments) (Jersey) Regulations 202- (P.50/2020): P.50/2020. comments. Com. Presented: 20th April 2020.

Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Guidance for Commercial Property during the Covid-19 period. R.39/2020. Presented: 15th April 2020.

Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture.

Use of Enforcement Powers. R.40/2020. Presented: 20th April 2020.

Comptroller and Auditor General.

States of Jersey Law 2005: delegation of functions – Minister for Home Affairs – R.41/2020. temporary delegations to Prison Governor.

Presented: 21st April 2020.

Minister for Home Affairs.

Notification of lodged propositions

Draft Covid-19 (Emergency Provisions – Courts) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.41/2020. (P.41/2020): second amendment. Amd.(2) Lodged: 20th April 2020.

Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Court proceedings: provision of live-streaming for sittings normally held in public. P.43/2020. Lodged: 14th April 2020.

Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade .

Social Security Fund: repayment of States Contribution for 2020. P.44/2020. Lodged: 14th April 2020.

Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence .

Draft Covid-19 (Health Insurance Fund) (Jersey) Regulations 202-. P.45/2020. Lodged: 15th April 2020.

Minister for Social Security.

Draft Covid-19 (Mental Health) (Jersey) Regulations 202-. P.46/2020. Lodged: 17th April 2020.

Minister for Health and Social Services.

Draft Covid-19 (Capacity and Self-Determination) (Jersey) Regulations 202-. P.47/2020. Lodged: 17th April 2020.

Minister for Health and Social Services.

Draft Covid-19 (Restricted Trading) (Jersey) Regulations 202-. P.48/2020. Lodged: 17th April 2020.

Minister for Health and Social Services.

Draft Covid-19 (Construction Work) (Jersey) Regulations 202-. P.49/2020. Lodged: 17th April 2020.

Minister for Health and Social Services.

Draft Covid-19 (Signing of Instruments) (Jersey) Regulations 202-. P.50/2020. Lodged: 20th April 2020.

Chief Minister.

Covid-19: questions without notice to all Ministers on the response of the Government P.51/2020. of Jersey.

Lodged: 20th April 2020.

Deputy R. Labey of St. Helier .

Jersey Gas: inclusion in payroll co-funding scheme. P.52/2020. Lodged: 20th April 2020.

Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .

Written Questions

(see Official Report/Hansard)

WQ.140/2020 1. The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy

G.P. Southern of St. Helier regarding the provision of personal protective equipment.

WQ.141/2020 2. The Minister for Social Security tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern

of St. Helier regarding the Covid Related Emergency Support Scheme (C.R.E.S.S.). WQ.142/2020 3. The Chief Minister tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy J.H. Perchard of

St. Saviour regarding the organisational structure of Government groups dealing with the

Coronavirus outbreak.

WQ.143/2020 4. The Chief Minister tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy J.H. Perchard of

St. Saviour regarding the long-term impact of Government decisions during the Covid-19 outbreak.

WQ.144/2020 5. The Minister for Treasury and Resources tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy J.H.

Perchard of St. Saviour regarding emergency procurement processes.

WQ.145/2020 6. The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy

J.H. Perchard of St. Saviour regarding the number of nurses in the Island.

WQ.146/2020 7. The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy

J.H. Perchard of St. Saviour regarding the number of medical gowns available to the States of Jersey.

WQ.147/2020 8. The Minister for Treasury and Resources tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy K.F.

Morel of St. Lawrence regarding States income in 2020.

WQ.148/2020 9. The Chief Minister tabled an answer to a question asked by the Connétable of St. Martin

regarding the Government's exit strategy from the Covid-19 outbreak.

WQ.149/2020 10. The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by the

Connétable of St. Martin regarding the provision of antibody tests for Covid-19.

WQ.150/2020 11. The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by the

Connétable of St. Martin regarding the care and wellbeing of frontline healthcare staff.

Oral Questions

(see Official Report/Hansard)

OQ.108/2020 1. Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding the

consultation with States Members in respect of the Field Hospital.

OQ.107/2020 2. Deputy G.J. Truscott of St. Brelade asked a question of the Minister for Home Affairs

regarding the measures taken at H.M.P. La Moye against Coronavirus.

OQ.99/2020 3. Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence asked a question of the Minister for the Environment

regarding the decision to locate a temporary hospital at Millbrook Playing Fields.

OQ.95/2020 4. Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Treasury and Resources

regarding a review of Jersey's tax system once the Covid-19 pandemic had concluded. OQ.104/2020 5. Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social

Services regarding the Covid-19 testing equipment and kit that had been acquired for Jersey. OQ.106/2020 6. The Connétable of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Infrastructure regarding the

provision for walkers and cyclists on the Island's roads.

OQ.103/2020 7. The Connétable of St. Lawrence asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding the assistance

provided to people wishing to make a will during the Coronavirus pandemic but who could not afford a lawyer.

OQ.101/2020 8. Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social

Services regarding the budget allocated to stock personal protective equipment (P.P.E.). OQ.93/2020 9. Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding the planning

that had been undertaken for the end point to the stay at home' order.

OQ.110/2020 10. Deputy C.S. Alves of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Economic Development,

Tourism, Sport and Culture regarding the support available to non-States-owned utilities during the Coronavirus crisis.

OQ.97/2020 11. Senator K.L. Moore asked a question of the Minister for Economic Development, Tourism,

Sport and Culture regarding the operation of the business support scheme during the Coronavirus crisis.

OQ.94/2020 12. Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Economic Development,

Tourism, Sport and Culture regarding the Government bodies involved in planning the response to the economic impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on Jersey.

OQ.98/2020 13. Senator K.L. Moore asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social Services regarding

an audit of personal protective equipment (P.P.E.).

OQ.96/2020 14. Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social Services

regarding the strategy to control the curve' of the prevalence of Covid-19 in Jersey. OQ.102/2020 15. Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social

Services regarding the vacancy rate amongst qualified nursing staff, health assistance and other

health professionals.

OQ.100/2020 16. Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding the tender

process for a One Gove New Office Developer Partner'.

Oral Questions without notice (see Official Report/Hansard)

The Minister for the Environment answered questions without notice from members.

The Minister for Health and Social Services answered questions without notice from members.

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chief Minister in accordance with Standing Order 80, agreed to suspend Standing Order 32 in order that the following propositions might be listed for consideration at the present meeting; and further agreed in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of these propositions in order that it might be debated at the present meeting –

Draft Covid-19 (Emergency Provisions – Courts) (Jersey) Regulations 202- Draft Covid-19 (Health Insurance Fund) (Jersey) Regulations 202-

Draft Covid-19 (Mental Health) (Jersey) Regulations 202-

Draft Covid-19 (Capacity and Self-Determination) (Jersey) Regulations 202- Draft Covid-19 (Restricted Trading) (Jersey) Regulations 202-

Draft Covid-19 (Construction Work) (Jersey) Regulations 202- Draft Covid-19 (Signing of Instruments) (Jersey) Regulations 202-

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 47 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade , agreed in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of his amendment (P.41/2020 Amd.) to the Draft Covid-19 (Emergency Provisions – Courts) (Jersey) Regulations 202-, in order that it might be debated at the present meeting.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 44 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chair of the Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel in accordance with Standing Order 80, agreed to suspend Standing Order 32, in order that the Panel's amendment (P.41/2020 Amd.(2)) to the Draft Covid-19 (Emergency Provisions – Courts) (Jersey) Regulations 202- might be listed for consideration at the present meeting; and further agreed in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of the amendment, in order that it might be debated at the present meeting.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 47 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES noted that Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade had informed the Greffier of the States, in accordance with Standing Order 30(2), that his proposition entitled Court proceedings: provision of live-streaming for sittings normally held in public' (P.43/2020) would be deferred from the present meeting to 12th May 2020.

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Russell Labey of St. Helier , agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 80, to suspend Standing Order 32 in order that his proposition entitled Covid-19: questions without notice to all Ministers on the response of the Government of Jersey' (P.51/2020) might be listed for consideration at the present meeting; and further agreed in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of the proposition in order that it might be debated at the present meeting.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 47 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young

Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES noted that Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier had informed the Greffier, in accordance with Standing Order 30(2), that his proposition entitled Jersey Gas: inclusion in payroll co- funding scheme' (P.52/2020) would be deferred from the present meeting to 12th May 2020.

The Communications (Jersey) Order 2020: extension to Jersey by Order in Council P.14/2020

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chief Minister entitled The Communications (Jersey) Order 2020: extension to Jersey by Order in Council' (P.14/2020), signified, pursuant to Article 31 of the States of Jersey Law 2005, that they agreed that a request be made to Her Majesty in Council for the making of an Order in Council that would extend to Jersey, with appropriate modifications, the amendments of the Communications Act 2003 made by section 89 of the Digital Economy Act 2017, as summarised in the Minister's Report attached to the Proposition.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 45 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Draft Covid-19 (Emergency Provisions – Courts) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.41/2020

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Covid-19 (Emergency Provisions – Courts) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 46 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, commenced consideration of Regulations 1 to 4 and, adopting part 1 of an amendment of the Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel (P.41/2020 Amd.(2)), agreed that in Regulation 3 for "2 Jurats" there should be substituted "3 Jurats".

THE STATES adopted Regulations 1 to 4, as amended.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 46 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES commenced consideration of Regulation 5 and, adopting part 2 of an amendment of the Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel (P.41/2020 Amd.(2)), agreed that for Regulation 5 there should be substituted –

"5 Variation of right to jury trial

This Regulation applies despite any other enactment whenever the Bailiff considers that at the time when a defendant's case is expected to be ready for trial it is likely not to be practicable to assemble a jury.
Despite having elected under Article 48(2) of the 2018 Law to be tried by the Royal Court sitting with a jury the defendant may instead elect to be tried by the Inferior Number of the Royal Court sitting without a jury.
If the Royal Court has decided under Article 48(4) of the 2018 Law that the defendant should be tried by the Royal Court sitting with a jury but the Bailiff , having heard any submissions from the defence and the prosecution, considers that it is not appropriate to adjourn the case to be heard with a jury at a later date, the defendant must be tried by the Inferior Number of the Royal Court sitting without a jury.
In this Regulation "2018 Law" means the Criminal Procedure (Jersey) Law 2018.".

THE STATES adopted Regulation 5, as amended.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 43 CONTRE: 3 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy K.F. Morel (L)

Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES adopted Regulation 6.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 43 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES adopted Regulation 7.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 43 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator I.J. Gorst Connétable of St. Saviour

Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré

Senator T.A. Vallois

Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Martin

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES commenced consideration of Regulation 8 and, adopting part 3 of an amendment of the Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel (P.41/2020 Amd.(2)), agreed that in Regulation 8 after the word "permissible" there should be inserted "for the Judicial Greffier".

THE STATES resumed consideration of Regulation 8, as amended, and, commencing consideration of an amendment of Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade (P.41/2020 Amd.), acceded to a request by Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade , in accordance with Standing Order 69(4) that his amendment be withdrawn.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 42 CONTRE: 4 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Connétable of St. John Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy K.F. Morel (L)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Changes in Presidency

The Bailiff retired from the Chair prior to consideration of the Draft Covid-19 (Emergency Provisions – Courts) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and the meeting continued under the Presidency of Dr. Mark Egan, Greffier of the States.

Dr. Mark Egan, Greffier of the States, retired from the Chair during consideration of the same Draft Regulations 202- and the meeting continued under the Presidency of Mrs. Lisa-Marie Hart , Deputy Greffier of the States. Dr. Mark Egan, Greffier of the States, returned to the Chair during consideration of the same proposition and the meeting continued under his Presidency.

Adjournment

THE STATES rejected a proposition of Senator John Alexander Nicholas le Fondré that the Assembly complete consideration of the Draft Covid-19 (Emergency Provisions – Courts) (Jersey) Regulations 202- prior to adjourning.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 5 CONTRE: 39 ABSTAIN: 1

Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator I.J. Gorst Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Connétable of St. Clement Senator L.J. Farnham

Connétable of Grouville Senator S.C. Ferguson

Connétable of St. John Senator T.A. Vallois

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 22nd April 2020 to continue consideration of the Draft Covid-19 (Emergency Provisions – Courts) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and the other outstanding items of public business listed for the present meeting.

THE STATES rose at 5.27 p.m.

W.J.C. MILLOW Acting Greffier of the States