States Minutes 22nd January 2020

THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 22nd January 2020, at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , Robert James MacRae , Esquire.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Ian Joseph Gorst – absent on States business

Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson – ill

Senator John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré – absent on States business

Connétable Alan Simon Crowcroft of St. Helier – absent on States business

Connétable Christopher Hugh Taylor of St. John – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.13 a.m.) Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.56 a.m.) Deputy Louise Mary Catherine Doublet of St. Saviour – absent on States business Deputy Carina Soares Alves of St. Helier – absent on States business

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Prayers

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Absence on States business – reason to be given

The Deputy Bailiff advised the Assembly that, in future, any elected member making a declaration during the 2nd roll call in accordance with Standing Order 53(2)(a) that another elected member was absent on States business, and was therefore unable to attend the meeting, should also state the nature of the States business.

Documents presented

Population and Migration (S.R.14/2019): response of the Chief Minister.  S.R.14/2019. Presented: 22nd January 2020.  Res. Chief Minister.

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), Deputy Inna Gardiner of St. Helier had informed the Greffier of the States that paragraph (c) of her proposition entitled Policy Development Boards' (P.122/2019) had been withdrawn.

Policy Development Boards P.122/2019

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Inna Gardiner of St. Helier entitled Policy Development Boards' (P.122/2019) and, adopting an amendment of Deputy Inna Gardiner of St. Helier (P.122/2019 Amd.), agreed that, in paragraph (b), the words "that there should be a process of consultation with" should be replaced with the words "once a scoping document and terms of reference for a policy development board have been approved by the Chief Minister,"; the word "on" should be replaced with the words "will be advised of"; before the word "duration" there should be inserted the word "estimated"; after the word "budget" there should be inserted the words ", if any; the Chief Minister will give consideration to any feedback received from a scrutiny or review panel"; and the words "first consulted on" should be replaced with the words "first advised of".

THE STATES, adopting paragraph (a) of the proposition of Deputy Inna Gardiner of St. Helier , as amended, requested the Chief Minister to take the steps necessary to ensure that information concerning all current and future policy development boards was published online in a transparent and timely manner, including terms of reference, consultation documents, membership, anticipated duration, the budget allocated to the board to complete its work and any interim or final reports.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 38 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)

THE STATES, adopting paragraph (b) of the proposition of Deputy Inna Gardiner of St. Helier , as amended, agreed that, once a scoping document and terms of reference for a policy development board had been approved by the Chief Minister, the appropriate scrutiny or review panel would be advised of the proposed terms of reference and membership of a policy development board, estimated duration and allocated budget, if any; the Chief Minister would give consideration to any feedback received from a scrutiny or review panel; and no ministerial decision to appoint a policy development board should be signed until at least one month had elapsed since the relevant panel was first advised of the proposed terms of reference and membership.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 22  CONTRE: 18  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S)

Employment (Minimum Wage) (Amendment No. 13) (Jersey) Order 2019: rescindment P.124/2019

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier entitled  Employment  (Minimum  Wage)  (Amendment  No. 13)  (Jersey)  Order  2019:  rescindment' (P.124/2019).

Adjournment

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade , agreed to a midday adjournment, during its consideration of the proposition of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier entitled Employment (Minimum Wage) (Amendment No. 13) (Jersey) Order 2019: rescindment' (P.124/2019).

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 23  CONTRE: 15  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin

Senator L.J. Farnham Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Mary Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)

STATES MINUTES

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)

22nd January 2020

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Employment (Minimum Wage) (Amendment No. 13) (Jersey) Order 2019: rescindment P.124/2019

THE STATES resumed consideration of a proposition of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier entitled Employment (Minimum Wage) (Amendment No. 13) (Jersey) Order 2019: rescindment' (P.124/2019) and rejected paragraph (a) of the proposition to request the Minister for Social Security to rescind the Employment (Minimum Wage) (Amendment No. 13) (Jersey) Order 2019, scheduled to come into force on 1st April 2020, and to take such steps as were necessary to make a new Order fixing the minimum wage at £8.32 per hour from 1st April 2020 with a further rise to £8.66 from 1st October 2020.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 16  CONTRE: 21  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator K.L. Moore  Senator L.J. Farnham   Deputy I. Gardiner (H) Senator S.Y. Mézec  Senator S.W. Pallett

Connétable of St. Saviour   Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Peter   Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Mary   Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Martin   Connétable of St. Ouen

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)   Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)   Deputy of Grouville

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)   Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy J.H. Young (B)   Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy of St. John   Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H)   Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)   Deputy R. Labey (H)

Deputy J.H. Perchard (S)   Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy R.J. Ward (H)   Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)   Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C)

Deputy K.F. Morel (L)

Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

THE STATES rejected paragraph (b) of the proposition of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier to request the Minister for Treasury and Resources to transfer £300,000 in 2020 from the General Reserve to the head of expenditure for Growth, Housing and Environment to increase the budget for Economic

Framework and Productivity Support for 2020 to deliver a productivity plan for low-pay sectors before the end of 2020.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 14  CONTRE: 24  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy of St. John Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S)

Arrangement of public business for future meetings

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee, resolved to sit in Committee at the meeting of 10th March 2020 in order to consider the development of the next Island Plan.

THE STATES agreed the following arrangement of public business for future meetings proposed, as amended, by the Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 88(3) –

4th February 2020

Public Holidays: designation of 28th September from 2021 onwards.  P.102/2019. Lodged: 16th September 2019.

Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade .

Public Holidays: designation of 28th September from 2021 onwards (P.102/2019) –  P.102/2019. comments.  Com. Presented: 6th December 2019.

Council of Ministers.

Personal Tax Reforms. P.119/2019 Lodged: 22nd November 2019.  (re-issue) Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Affordable access to Primary Care Scheme. P.125/2019. Lodged: 23rd December 2019.

Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .

Electoral Reform 2020. P.126/2019. Lodged: 23rd December 2019.

Privileges and Procedures Committee.

25th February 2020

Draft Public Health and Safety (Rented Dwellings) (Licensing) (Jersey) Regulations  P.106/2019. 201-.

Lodged: 1st October 2019.

Minister for the Environment.

Draft Public Health and Safety (Rented Dwellings) (Licensing) (Jersey) Regulations  P.106/2019. 201- (P.106/2019): amendment.  Amd. Lodged: 13th December 2019.

Minister for the Environment.

Carbon Neutral Strategy 2019.  P.127/2019. Lodged: 31st December 2019.

Minister for the Environment.

Draft Taxation (Implementation) (International Tax Compliance) (Mandatory  P.129/2019. Disclosure Rules for CRS Avoidance Arrangements and Opaque Offshore Structures)

(Jersey) Regulations 202-.

Lodged: 31st December2019.

Minister for External Relations.

Draft Control of Housing and Work (Residential and Employment Status)  P.1/2020. (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 202-.

Lodged: 8th January 2020.

Deputy J.H. Perchard of St. Saviour .

Social Security Tribunal: appointment of members. P.2/2020. Lodged: 10th January 2020.

Minister for Social Security.

Income Support Medical Appeal Tribunal: appointment of members. P.3/2020. Lodged: 10th January 2020.

Minister for Social Security.

Social Security Medical Appeal Tribunal: appointment of member. P.4/2020. Lodged: 10th January 2020.

Minister for Social Security.

10th March 2020

Diversity Working Group. P.118/2019. Lodged: 15th November 2019.

Deputy J.M. Maçon of St. Saviour .

Diversity Working Group (P.118/2019): comments. P.118/2019. Presented: 6th January 2020.  Com. Privileges and Procedures Committee.

Sustainable Transport Policy.  P.128/2019. Lodged: 31st December 2019.

Minister for Infrastructure.

Draft Sea Fisheries (Licensing of Fishing Boats) (Amendment No. 7) (Jersey)  P.5/2020. Regulations 202-.

Lodged: 17th January 2020.

Minister for the Environment.

Priorities for the next Island Plan (Consideration in-Committee).

THE STATES rose at 3.35 p.m.

L.-M. HART Deputy Greffier of the States