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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 24th November 2020, at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,
Timothy John Le Cocq , Esquire.
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His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor,
Air Chief Marshall Sir Stephen Dalton, G.C.B., LL.D. (Hon.), D.Sc. (Hon.), B.Sc., F.R.Ae.S., C.C.M.I. was present.
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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Samuel Yves Mézec – excused attendance (joined at 3.23 p.m.)
Connétable Alan Simon Crowcroft of St. Helier – excused attendance (joined at 12.17 p.m.) Connétable Sadia Anthea Le Sueur -Rennard of St. Saviour – ill
Connétable Richard Vibert of St. Peter – excused attendance (joined at 9.43 a.m.)
Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier – excused attendance (joined at 11.03 a.m.) Deputy Charles Hugh Raymond of Trinity – excused attendance
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Prayers
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Standing Order 55A – meeting held remotely
THE STATES assembled remotely, in accordance with Standing Order 55A, as the Bailiff considered that it was not possible to convene or maintain a quorate meeting in view of a substantial risk to the health of both States Members and the public.
Documents presented
Draft Covid-19 (Gatherings) (Jersey) Regulations 202- (P.157/2020): comments. P.157/2020. Presented: 20th November 2020. Com. Comité des Connétable s.
Draft Covid-19 (Gatherings) (Jersey) Regulations 202- (P.157/2020): comments. P.157/2020. Presented: 20th November 2020. Com.(2). Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel.
Draft Covid-19 (Workplace Restrictions) (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.158/2020. (P.158/2020): comments. Com. Presented: 20th November 2020.
Comité des Connétable s.
Draft Covid-19 (Workplace Restrictions) (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.158/2020. (P.158/2020): comments. Com.(2) Presented: 23rd November 2020.
Economic and International Affairs Scrutiny Panel.
Notification of lodged propositions
Draft Covid-19 (Regulation of Care – Standards and Requirements) (Jersey) P.160/2020. Regulations 202-.
Lodged: 20th November 2020.
Minister for the Environment.
Arrangement of public business for the present meeting
THE STATES, adopting the request of the Minister for the Environment, agreed in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of the Draft Covid-19 (Regulation of Care – Standards and Requirements) (Jersey) Regulations 202- ( P.160/2020) in order that they might be debated at the present meeting.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 42 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: Senator L.J. Farnham Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré
Senator T.A. Vallois
Senator K.L. Moore
Senator S.W. Pallett
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Martin
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)
Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C)
Deputy K.F. Morel (L)
Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H)
Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
Draft Covid-19 (Gatherings) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.157/2020
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Covid-19 (Gatherings) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and rejected a proposition of Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade that, in accordance with Standing Order 83(1)(a), the matter should be referred back to the Minister for Health and Social Services in order that further information relating to the proposition could be provided to the Assembly and that information relating to the proposition which had already been provided to the States could be clarified.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 9 CONTRE: 35 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator K.L. Moore Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H)
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
THE STATES resumed consideration of the Draft Covid-19 (Gatherings) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 43 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator I.J. Gorst Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)
Senator L.J. Farnham
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré
Senator T.A. Vallois
Senator K.L. Moore
Senator S.W. Pallett
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Martin
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)
Deputy R. Labey (H)
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)
Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C)
Deputy K.F. Morel (L)
Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H)
Deputy R.J. Ward (H)
Deputy C.S. Alves (H)
Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)
Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulation 1.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 46 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore
Senator S.W. Pallett
Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
THE STATES adopted Regulation 2.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 41 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst Deputy M. Tadier (B) Senator L.J. Farnham Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator T.A. Vallois
Senator S.W. Pallett
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Martin
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)
Deputy R. Labey (H)
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)
Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C)
Deputy K.F. Morel (L)
Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H)
Deputy J.H. Perchard (S)
Deputy R.J. Ward (H)
Deputy C.S. Alves (H)
Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)
Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
THE STATES adopted Regulations 3 and 4.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 43 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
THE STATES, under Article 2 of the Covid-19 (Enabling Provisions) (Jersey) Law 2020, made Regulations entitled the Covid-19 (Gatherings) (Jersey) Regulations 2020.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 44 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator I.J. Gorst Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)
Senator L.J. Farnham
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré
Senator T.A. Vallois
Senator S.W. Pallett
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
Draft Covid-19 (Workplace Restrictions) (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.158/2020
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Covid-19 (Workplace Restrictions) (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 43 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. John Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)
Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 8.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 41 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Connétable of St. John Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
THE STATES, under Article 2 of the Covid-19 (Enabling Provisions) (Jersey) Law 2020, made Regulations entitled the Covid-19 (Workplace Restrictions) (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations 2020.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 41 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN:
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)
Connétable of St. John Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)
Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
Adjournment
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier, adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 25th November 2020 to consider the Draft Covid-19 (Regulation of Care – Standards and Requirements) (Jersey) Regulations 202- (P.160/2020).
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 29
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator K.L. Moore
Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
CONTRE: 14
Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy of St. Mary Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)
ABSTAIN: 0
THE STATES rose at 5.29 p.m.
L.-M. HART Deputy Greffier of the States