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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 27th May 2020, at 9.30 a.m. under
the Presidency of the Bailiff , Timothy John Le Cocq , Esquire.
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His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor,
Air Chief Marshall Sir Stephen Dalton, G.C.B., LL.D. (Hon.), D.Sc. (Hon.), B.Sc., F.R.Ae.S., C.C.M.I. was present.
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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Deputy Kevin Glyn Pamplin of St. Saviour – excused attendance (joined at 9.39 a.m.)
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Prayers
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Standing Order 55A – meeting held remotely
THE STATES assembled remotely, in accordance with Standing Order 55A, as the Bailiff considered that it was not possible to convene or maintain a quorate meeting in view of a substantial risk to the health of both States Members and the public.
Subordinate enactments tabled
The following enactments were tabled, namely –
Covid-19 (Workplace Restrictions) (Jersey) Order 2020. R&O.67/2020. Minister for Health and Social Services.
Covid-19 (Restricted Movement) (Amendment – Workplaces and Fourth Extension) R&O.68/2020. (Jersey) Order 2020.
Minister for Health and Social Services.
Animal Welfare (Calves) (Jersey) Order 2020. R&O.69/2020. Signed by Assistant Minister Deputy G.C.U. Guida of St. Lawrence , for and on behalf
of the Minister for the Environment.
Animal Health (Tuberculosis) (Amendment) (Jersey) Order 2020. R&O.70/2020. Signed by Assistant Minister Deputy G.C.U. Guida of St. Lawrence , for and on behalf
of the Minister for the Environment
Veterinary Surgeons (Amendment of Law) (Jersey) Order 2020. R&O.71/2020. Signed by Assistant Minister Deputy G.C.U. Guida of St. Lawrence , for and on behalf
of the Minister for the Environment.
Covid-19 (Construction Work) (Amendment – Exemptions and Second Extension) R&O.72/2020. (Jersey) Order 2020.
Minister for Health and Social Services.
Road Traffic ( St. Clement ) (Amendment No. 24) (Jersey) Order 2020. R&O.73/2020. Minister for Infrastructure.
Documents presented
Draft Cremation (Suspension and Modification of Regulations – Covid-19) (No. 2) P.65/2020. (Jersey) Regulations 202- (P.65/2020): comments. Com. Presented: 26th May 2020.
Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel.
Draft Covid-19 (Safe Distancing) (Jersey) Regulations 202- (P.66/2020): comments. P.66/2020. Presented: 26th May 2020. Com. Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel.
Jersey Employment and Discrimination Tribunal: Annual Report 2019. R.51/2020. Presented: 22nd May 2020.
Minister for Social Security.
Income Forecasting Group: Report on the revised forecast of States income for spring R.52/2020. 2020.
Presented: 27th May 2020.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Notification of lodged propositions
Draft Covid-19 (Safe Distancing) (Jersey) Regulations 202-. P.66/2020. Lodged: 20th May 2020.
Minister for Health and Social Services.
Draft Covid-19 (Safe Distancing) (Jersey) Regulations 202- (P.66/2020): amendment. P.66/2020. Lodged: 22nd May 2020. Amd. Minister for Health and Social Services.
Oral Questions without notice (see Official Report/Hansard)
A period of questions without notice was held, during which questions were permitted to any Minister on any subject within the official responsibility of the Government of Jersey.
Arrangement of public business for the present meeting
THE STATES, adopting the request of the Minister for Health and Social Services, agreed in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of the Draft Cremation (Suspension and Modification of Regulations – Covid-19) (No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 202-, in order that they might be debated at the present meeting.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 42 CONTRE: 4 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Senator L.J. Farnham Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Senator S.C. Ferguson Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Deputy I. Gardiner (H) Senator K.L. Moore
Senator S.W. Pallett
Senator S.Y. Mézec
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Martin
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy R. Labey (H)
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)
Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C)
Deputy K.F. Morel (L)
Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H)
Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)
Deputy J.H. Perchard (S)
Deputy C.S. Alves (H)
Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)
THE STATES, adopting the request of the Minister for Health and Social Services, agreed in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of the Draft Covid-19 (Safe Distancing) (Jersey) Regulations 202-, as well as the amendment of the Minister for Health and Social Services to those Draft Regulations (P.66/2020 Amd.), in order that they might both be debated at the present meeting.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 31 CONTRE: 15 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator I.J. Gorst Senator S.C. Ferguson Deputy J.H. Young (B) Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.Y. Mézec
Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Connétable of St. Helier
Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Clement Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
STATES MINUTES
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)
27th May 2020
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
Draft Cremation (Suspension and Modification of Regulations – Covid-19) (No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.65/2020
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Cremation (Suspension and Modification of Regulations – Covid-19) (No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 44 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H)
Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 4.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 45 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
THE STATES made Regulations entitled the Cremation (Suspension and Modification of Regulations – Covid-19) (No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 2019, under Article 3 of the Cremation (Jersey) Law 1953.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 44 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H)
Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
Draft Covid-19 (Safe Distancing) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.66/2020
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Covid-19 (Safe Distancing) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and rejected a proposition of Deputy Louise Mary Catherine Doublet of St. Saviour that, in accordance with Standing Order 83(1)(a), the Draft Regulations should be referred back to the Minister for Health and Social Services in order that further information relating to the proposition could be provided to the Assembly.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 18 CONTRE: 28 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Mary Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator K.L. Moore
Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C)
Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)
THE STATES resumed consideration of the Draft Covid-19 (Safe Distancing) (Jersey) Regulations 202- adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 36 CONTRE: 12 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator K.L. Moore
Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of Grouville Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, commenced consideration of Regulations 1 to 5.
Arrangement of public business for the present meeting
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Jeremy Martin Maçon of St. Saviour , agreed that it would continue consideration of the Draft Covid-19 (Safe Distancing) (Jersey) Regulations 202- until 6.00 p.m. and would reconvene at 9.30 a.m. on Thursday 28th May 2020, if such consideration had not been completed by 6.00 p.m., in order to continue consideration of the Draft Regulations.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 31 CONTRE: 13 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator I.J. Gorst Senator K.L. Moore Connétable of Grouville Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.Y. Mézec
Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Connétable of St. Mary
Senator T.A. Vallois Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Senator S.W. Pallett Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Connétable of St. Helier Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Connétable of St. Clement Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)
Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy of St. John
Connétable of St. Brelade Deputy J.H. Perchard (S)
Connétable of Trinity Deputy R.J. Ward (H)
Connétable of St. Peter Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)
Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
Connétable of St. Martin
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy R. Labey (H)
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)
Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C)
Deputy K.F. Morel (L)
Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H)
Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)
Draft Covid-19 (Safe Distancing) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.66/2020
THE STATES, resuming consideration of the Draft Covid-19 (Safe Distancing) (Jersey) Regulations 202- , resumed consideration of Regulations 1 to 5.
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 28th May 2020 to continue consideration of the Draft Covid-19 (Safe Distancing) (Jersey) Regulations 202-.
THE STATES rose at 6.00 p.m.
DR. M. EGAN Greffier of the States