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States Minutes 30th June 2020

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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 30th June 2020, at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , Robert James MacRae , Esquire.

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His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor,

Air Chief Marshall Sir Stephen Dalton, G.C.B., LL.D. (Hon.), D.Sc. (Hon.), B.Sc., F.R.Ae.S., C.C.M.I. was present.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Lyndon John Farnham – excused attendance (joined at 11.11 a.m.)

Connétable Alan Simon Crowcroft of St. Helier – excused attendance (joined at 9.48 a.m.) Connétable Deidre Wendy Mezbourian of St. Lawrence – excused attendance (joined at 9.52 a.m.)

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Prayers

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Standing Order 55A – meeting held remotely

THE STATES assembled remotely, in accordance with Standing Order 55A, as the Bailiff considered that it was not possible to convene or maintain a quorate meeting in view of a substantial risk to the health of both States Members and the public.

Subordinate enactments tabled

The following enactments were tabled, namely –

Dormant Bank Accounts (Distribution of Fund Money) (Jersey) Order 2020. Minister  R&O.86/2020. for External Relations.

Control of Housing and Work (Exemptions) (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Order 2020.  R&O.87/2020. Chief Minister.

Covid-19 (Safe Distancing – Suspension) (Jersey) Order 2020.  R&O.88/2020. Minister for Health and Social Services.

Covid-19 (Workplace Restrictions – Third Extension) (Jersey) Order 2020.  R&O.89/2020. Minister for Health and Social Services.

Documents presented

Bus Service: introduction of through-fares (P.19/2020) – comments.  P.19/2020. Presented: 26th June 2020.  Com. Minister for Infrastructure.

Bus Service: introduction of through-fares (P.19/2020) – amendment (P.19/2020 Amd.)  P.19/2020. – comments.  Amd. Presented: 26th June 2020.  Com. Minister for Infrastructure.

Proposed Airport Redevelopment: review – comments. P.71/2020. Presented: 30th June 2020.  Com. Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Use of Enforcement Powers (R.40/2020): Executive response.  R.40/2020. Presented: 30th June 2020.  Res. Public Accounts Committee.

Insurance (R.44/2020): Executive response.  R.44/2020. Presented: 30th June 2020.  Res. Public Accounts Committee.

Jersey Financial Services Commission: Annual Report 2019.  R.58/2020. Presented: 17th June 2020.

Minister for External Relations.

Covid-19 (Safe  Distancing) (Jersey) Regulations  2020: Medical  Officer of Health  R.59/2020. Report 1 and response of the Minister for Health and Social Services.

Presented: 17th June 2020.

Minister for Health and Social Services.

Children's Commissioner for Jersey: Annual Report 2018-2019.  R.60/2020. Presented: 18th June 2020.

Children's Commissioner.

Commissioner for Standards: Investigation of Complaint of breach of the Code of  R.61/2020. Conduct for Elected Members by Deputy S.M. Wickenden of St. Helier .

Presented: 19th June 2020.

Privileges and Procedures Committee.

States of Jersey Law 2005: delegation of functions – Minister for Social Security –  R.62/2020. extension June 2020.

Presented: 23rd June 2020.

Minister for Social Security.

Consultants: reporting on their use by the Government of Jersey (P.59/2019) – report of  R.63/2020. the Chief Minister – June 2020.

Presented: 26th June 2020.

Chief Minister.

Brexit Report: June 2020 update.  R.64/2020. Presented: 30th June 2020.

Minister for External Relations.

Notification of lodged propositions

Lifting of travel restrictions: States Assembly approval (P.68/2020)   amendment  P.68/2020. (P.68/2020 Amd.) – amendment.  Amd.Amd. Lodged: 24th June 2020.

Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture.

Lifting  of  travel  restrictions:  States  Assembly  approval  (P.68/2020)   second  P.68/2020. amendment. Amd.(2) Lodged: 23rd June 2020.

Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence .

Draft Limited Partnerships (Continuance) (Jersey) Regulations 202-.  P.83/2020. Lodged: 22nd June 2020.

Minister for External Relations.

A safer travel period: States Assembly approval.  P.84/2020. Lodged: 26th June 2020.

Council of Ministers.

A safer travel period: States Assembly approval (P.84/2020) – amendment. P.84/2020. Lodged: 30th June 2020.  Amd. Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier .

A safer travel period: States Assembly approval (P.84/2020) – second amendment.  P.84/2020. Lodged: 30th June 2020.  Amd.(2) Scrutiny Liaison Committee.

Economic and International Affairs Scrutiny Panel – appointment of member

In accordance with Standing Order 125(7) the Chair of the Economic and International Affairs Scrutiny Panel indicated that he wished to increase the size of the Panel to 5 members, including the Chair, and nominated Deputy Kevin Glyn Pamplin of St. Saviour as a member of the Panel.

There being no other nominations, the Presiding Officer declared that Deputy Kevin Glyn Pamplin of St. Saviour had been duly appointed as a member of the Economic and International Affairs Scrutiny Panel.

Written Questions

(see Official Report/Hansard)

WQ.233/2020  1.  The  Chief  Minister  tabled  an  answer  to  a  question  asked  by   Deputy  K.F.   Morel  of

St. Lawrence regarding Government of Jersey contracts with EY.

WQ.234/2020  2.  The  Chief  Minister  tabled  an  answer  to  a  question  asked  by   Deputy  K.F.   Morel  of

St. Lawrence regarding Government of Jersey contracts with J3 Limited.  

WQ.235/2020  3.  The Minister for Infrastructure tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy K.F. Morel of

St. Lawrence regarding the use of U.K. companies for the laying of road surfaces in Jersey.  WQ.236/2020  4.  The Minister for Education tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy C.S. Alves of

St. Helier regarding the provision of virtual learning materials to schoolchildren.  

WQ.237/2020  5.  The Minister for Social Security tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy C.S. Alves

of St. Helier regarding the Covid Related Emergency Support Scheme.

WQ.238/2020  6.  The Minister for Children and Housing tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy C.S.

Alves of St. Helier regarding provisions for accessibility in newly-built social housing. WQ.239/2020  7.  The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy

C.S. Alves of St. Helier regarding the Drugs and Alcohol Strategy.  

WQ.240/2020  8.  The Minister for Treasury and Resources tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy C.S.

Alves of St. Helier regarding the co-funded payroll scheme.  

WQ.241/2020  9.  The Chief Minister tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier

regarding the advice of the Scientific and Technical Advisory Cell.

WQ.242/2020  10. The Minister for Infrastructure tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of

St. Helier regarding the provision of solar panels at the new Les Quennevais School.  WQ.243/2020  11. The Minister for Social Security tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward

of St. Helier regarding errors in the payment of benefits by the Department of Customer and

Local Services.  

WQ.244/2020  12. The Minister for Treasury and Resources tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy R.J.

Ward of St. Helier regarding administration of the loans provided to Andium Homes. WQ.245/2020  13. The Minister for the Environment tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward

of St. Helier regarding the Government's consideration of measures to address climate

change.

WQ.246/2020  14. The Minister for Treasury and Resources tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy M.

Tadier of St. Brelade regarding the statue of Sir George de Carteret in St. Peter .

WQ.247/2020  15. The Minister for Children and Housing tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy M.R.

Higgins of St. Helier regarding the waiting list for social housing.  

WQ.248/2020  16. The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy

M.R. Higgins of St. Helier regarding ventilators and continuous positive airway pressure units. WQ.249/2020  17. The Minister for Home Affairs tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy M.R. Higgins

of St. Helier regarding the early release of prisoners during the Covid-19 pandemic.  WQ.250/2020  18. The Minister for the Environment tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy M.R.

Higgins of St. Helier regarding the organisation of, and the number of employees in, his

department.

WQ.251/2020  19. The Minister for Home Affairs tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy M.R. Higgins

of St. Helier regarding the organisation of, and the number of employees in, the Department of Justice and Home Affairs.  

WQ.252/2020  20. The Chief Minister tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier

regarding the Household Living Costs and Income Survey.  

WQ.253/2020  21. The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy

G.P. Southern of St. Helier regarding the cost of primary care for people on low incomes and those with chronic illnesses.  

WQ.254/2020  22. The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy

L.M.C. Doublet of St. Saviour regarding mental health services for young men.  

Oral Questions

(see Official Report/Hansard)

OQ.180/2020 1.   Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Infrastructure regarding

the use of disinfectant vehicles.

OQ.183/2020 2.   Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade asked a question of the Chair of the Privileges and Procedures

Committee regarding the Committee's consideration of the existing nationality requirements for people wishing to stand for election to the States.

OQ.178/2020 3.  The Connétable of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for the Environment regarding

the planning applications process.

OQ.172/2020 4.  The Deputy of St. John asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social Services

regarding the testing of people who experienced mild Covid symptoms in the early stages of the Coronavirus pandemic.

OQ.168/2020 5.   Deputy K.G. Pamplin of St. Saviour asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding the

Government's policy in population and migration.

OQ.182/2020 6.  Senator S.C. Ferguson asked a question of the Minister for Treasury and Resources regarding

the online purchase of goods in Jersey from large online retailers.

OQ.176/2020 7.   Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence asked a question of the Minister for Education regarding

the provision for schoolchildren to attend clubs and activities during the summer holidays. OQ.170/2020 8.   Deputy J.H. Perchard of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social

Services regarding the Covid-19 (Safe Distancing) (Jersey) Regulations 2020.

OQ.167/2020 9.   Deputy C.S. Alves of St. Helier asked a question of the Vice-Chair of the States Employment

Board regarding the mental health support provided to States of Jersey employees working at home during the Covid-19 pandemic.

OQ.185/2020 10. Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding the impact

on frontline services of the economic recovery plan.

OQ.174/2020 11. Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Children and Housing

regarding the lack of free healthcare for children and the inequalities facing children in housing and education in Jersey.

OQ.171/2020 12. Deputy C.S. Alves of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Education regarding the

appointment of head teachers to oversee two primary schools.

OQ.169/2020 13. Deputy K.G. Pamplin of St. Saviour asked a question of the Assistant Minister for Health and

Social Services regarding the Mental Health Strategy.

OQ.175/2020 14. Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Economic Development,

Tourism, Sport and Culture regarding the cost of heating oil in Jersey.

OQ.179/2020 15. The Connétable of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Infrastructure regarding the

re-purposing of the site of the former police station at Rouge Bouillon.

OQ.181/2020 16. Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier asked a question of the Assistant Minister for Education

regarding the support available to higher-education students facing financial difficulties during the Covid-19 pandemic.

OQ.177/2020 17. Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence asked a question of the Minister for the Environment

regarding the protection of wildlife at Les Ecréhous.

OQ.184/2020  18. Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade asked a question of the States of Jersey Trustee of the Jersey Community Relations Trust regarding measures to achieve a more diverse States Assembly.

Oral Questions without notice (see Official Report/Hansard)

The Minister for Social Security answered questions without notice from members. The Chief Minister answered questions without notice from members.

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Senator Ian Joseph Gorst , agreed that it would consider the proposition of the Council of Ministers entitled A safer travel period: States Assembly approval' (P.84/2020) on Wednesday 1st July 2020.

Oral Questions without notice (see Official Report/Hansard)

A period of questions without notice was held, during which questions were permitted to any Minister on any subject within the official responsibility of the Government of Jersey.

Statements on a matter of official responsibility (see Official Report/Hansard)

The Minister for Children and Housing made a statement regarding Children's Day. Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES, adopting the request of Deputy Russell Labey of St. Helier , agreed in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of the proposition entitled Proposed Airport Redevelopment: review' (P.71/2020), in order that it might be debated at the present meeting.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 43 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chief Minister in accordance with Standing Order 80, agreed to suspend Standing Order 32 in order that the proposition of the Council of Ministers entitled A safer travel period: States Assembly approval' (P.84/2020), as well as the amendments to the proposition of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier (P.84/2020 Amd.) and of the Scrutiny Liaison Committee (P.84/2020 Amd.(2)), might be listed for consideration at the present meeting; and further agreed in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce  the  minimum lodging period in respect of these propositions in order that they might be debated at the present meeting.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 45  CONTRE: 1  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator I.J. Gorst   Deputy M. Tadier (B)   Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré

Senator T.A. Vallois

Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Jersey Overseas Aid Commission: re-appointment of Commissioner P.67/2020

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for International Development entitled Jersey Overseas Aid Commission: re-appointment of Commissioner' (P.67/2020), appointed Mr. Douglas Melville as a non-States Commissioner for a further period of 3 years, in accordance with clause 7.4 of the Constitution of the Jersey Overseas Aid Commission as set out in Schedule 1 to the Jersey Overseas Aid Commission (Jersey) Law 2005.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 46 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), Deputy Jeremy Martin Maçon of St. Saviour had informed the Greffier of the States that his proposition entitled Lifting of travel restrictions: States Assembly approval' (P.68/2020) had been withdrawn.

Proposed Airport Redevelopment: review P.71/2020

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Russell Labey of St. Helier entitled Proposed Airport Redevelopment: review' (P.71/2020), as amended, and, adopting a proposition of Deputy Inna Gardiner of St. Helier , agreed, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 84, that the proposition be put to the vote.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 9 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. John Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H)

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of Deputy Russell Labey of St. Helier and, adopting the proposition –

  1. requested the Minister for Treasury and Resources, as Shareholder Representative, to request Ports of Jersey to undertake and provide to the States Assembly a review of the scale, detail and viability of the £42 million scheme for the redevelopment of Jersey Airport in light of the changed aviation landscape caused by the worldwide Coronavirus pandemic;
  2. requested the Minister for Treasury and Resources, as Shareholder Representative, to seek commitments from Ports of Jersey that no demolition of the original 1937 Terminal would take place until the outcome of such a review had been considered by the States Assembly; and that consideration would be given to the retention and incorporation of the 1937 building as part of any redevelopment; and
  3. requested the Minister for the Environment to instigate a review of the grant of a permit to demolish the 1937 Terminal.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 25  CONTRE: 20  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator S.C. Ferguson  Senator I.J. Gorst   Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Senator T.A. Vallois  Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator S.Y. Mézec  Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré

Connétable of St. Lawrence  Senator K.L. Moore

Connétable of St. Saviour  Senator S.W. Pallett

Connétable of St. Brelade   Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Trinity   Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Martin   Connétable of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)   Connétable of St. John

Deputy of Grouville   Connétable of St. Peter

Deputy M. Tadier (B)   Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)   Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)   Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy R. Labey (H)   Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)   Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy J.H. Young (B)   Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy K.F. Morel (L)   Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy of St. Peter   Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of Trinity   Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C)

Deputy of St. John   Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H)

Deputy R.J. Ward (H)

Deputy C.S. Alves (H)

Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)

Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 1st July 2020 to consider the proposition  of  the  Council  of  Ministers  entitled  A  safer  travel period:  States  Assembly approval' (P.84/2020) and the associated amendments.

THE STATES rose at 5.45 p.m.

L.-M. HART Deputy Greffier of the States