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States Minutes 9th June 2021

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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 9th June 2021, at 9.30 a.m. under

the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , Robert James MacRae , Esquire.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson – excused attendance (joined at 10.10 a.m.) Deputy Russell Labey of St. Helier – excused attendance (joined at 9.38 a.m.) Deputy Trevor Pointon of St. John – excused attendance (joined at 2.35 p.m.) Deputy Jessica Harriet Perchard of St. Saviour – excused attendance

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Prayers

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Standing Order 55A – meeting held remotely

THE STATES assembled remotely, in accordance with Standing Order 55A, as the Bailiff considered that it was not possible to convene or maintain a quorate meeting in view of a substantial risk to the health of both States Members and the public.

Notification of lodged propositions

Draft Civil Aviation (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202-.  P.64/2021. Lodged: 9th June 2021, Minister for External Relations and Financial Services.

Housing Affordability Crisis: Actions to be taken by the Government of Jersey P.31/2021

THE STATES commenced consideration of a  proposition of Senator Samuel Yves Mézec  entitled Housing  Affordability  Crisis:  Actions  to be  taken by  the  Government  of  Jersey'  (P.31/2021)  and rejected paragraph (a) that there existed a housing affordability crisis in Jersey and that, in order to deal with this situation, legislation should be introduced to enhance security of tenure and tenants' rights to provide for open-ended' tenancies as standard practice.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 13  CONTRE: 32  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Brelade Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H)


Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)


Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES rejected paragraph (b) of the proposition of Senator Samuel Yves Mézec that there existed a housing affordability crisis in Jersey and that, in order to deal with this situation, rent stabilisation legislation and a Rent Commission or Board to monitor and decide on annual rent increases should be introduced.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 17 CONTRE: 28 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H)


Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES rejected paragraphs (c), (d) and (e) of the proposition of Senator Samuel Yves Mézec that there existed a housing affordability crisis in Jersey and that, in order to deal with this situation –

  1. the social housing rent setting should be reduced from charging rents of up to 90% of the market rate, to charging up to 80% of the market rate;
  2. the annual financial return provided by Andium Homes to the Treasury should be amended in the  Government  Plan  2022-25  to  enable  this  change  in  rents  policy  without  negatively impacting on their housing development programme; and
  3. the Council of Ministers was requested to produce a timetable for achieving these changes by no later than the end of July 2021.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 21  CONTRE: 25  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator T.A. Vallois  Senator I.J. Gorst   Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Senator K.L. Moore  Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator S.W. Pallett  Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator S.Y. Mézec  Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré

Connétable of St. Helier   Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Saviour   Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Martin   Connétable of Grouville

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)   Connétable of Trinity

Deputy M. Tadier (B)   Connétable of St. Peter

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)   Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin   Connétable of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)   Connétable of St. John

Deputy of St. Mary   Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.F. Morel (L)   Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy of St. John   Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H)   Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)   Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R.J. Ward (H)   Deputy R. Labey (H)

Deputy C.S. Alves (H)   Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)   Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

Deputy I. Gardiner (H)   Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C)

Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(1)(b), the following members declared an interest as landlords, but remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the proposition of Senator Samuel Yves Mézec

Senator Ian Joseph Gorst

Senator John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré Senator Kristina Louise Moore

The Connétable of St. Helier

The Connétable of Grouville

The Connétable of St. Ouen

The Connétable of St. Mary

The Deputy of Grouville

Deputy Susan Jane Pinel of St. Clement

The Deputy of St. Ouen

The Deputy of St. Martin

The Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy Graham John Truscott of St. Brelade

Deputy John Hilary Young of St. Brelade

Deputy Kirsten Francis Morel of St. Lawrence

Deputy Gregory Charles Umberto Guida of St. Lawrence The Deputy of St. Peter

The Deputy of Trinity

THE STATES noted  that, in accordance with the  provisions  of Standing Order 106(1)(b),   Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade declared an interest, as his partner was a landlord, but remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the proposition of Senator Samuel Yves Mézec .

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(1)(b), Deputy Judith Ann Martin of St. Helier declared an interest as a tenant and remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the proposition of Senator Samuel Yves Mézec .

Draft Road Traffic (No.67) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.37/2021

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Road Traffic (No.67) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 40  CONTRE: 1  ABSTAIN: 0 Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré   Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Senator T.A. Vallois

Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. John

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 and 2.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 41 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES adopted Regulation 3.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 36 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Senator S.W. Pallett Deputy M. Tadier (B)

THE STATES adopted Regulation 4. Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 40  CONTRE: 0  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES made Regulations entitled the Road Traffic (No.67) (Jersey) Regulations 2021 under Order in Council of 26th December 1851 and Article 92 of the Road Traffic (Jersey) Law 1956.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 41  CONTRE: 2  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham   Deputy M. Tadier (B) Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré   Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Senator T.A. Vallois

Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Draft Road Traffic (No.68) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.39/2021

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Road Traffic (No.68) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 42 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, having been informed by the Chair of the Environment, Housing and Infrastructure Scrutiny Panel that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 72(1), he wished to have the Draft Road Traffic (No.68) (Jersey) Regulations 202- referred to that Scrutiny Panel, agreed that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 72(6), the 2nd reading of the draft Regulations should be listed to continue on 5th October 2021.

States Members' Remuneration P.40/2021

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of the Privileges and Procedures Committee entitled States Members' Remuneration' (P.40/2021).

Adjournment

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Kirsten Francis Morel of St. Lawrence , adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 10th June 2021, to continue consideration of the proposition of the Privileges and Procedures Committee entitled States Members' Remuneration' (P.40/2021).

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 27 CONTRE: 13 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Peter Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of St. John

THE STATES rose at 5.33 p.m.

DR. M. EGAN Greffier of the States