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States Minutes 12th July 2022

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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 12th July 2022, at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , Robert James MacRae , Esquire.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Deputy Stephen George Luce of Grouville and St. Martin – excused attendance (arrived in the Chamber at 10.29 a.m.)

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Prayers read by the Greffier of the States __________________

Standing Order 55A – remote participation

THE STATES, with reference to their Act dated 14th September 2021, in which they had agreed that, notwithstanding Standing Order 55A(1), members who did not wish to attend in the States Chamber might continue to take part in States meetings using Microsoft Teams (until the States had considered and voted upon a proposition to re-apply Standing Order 55A(1) or to repeal or vary the terms of the Standing Order), assembled in accordance with Standing Order 55A with members able to participate remotely using Microsoft Teams.

Appointment of the Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee

THE STATES, in accordance with Standing Order 118, appointed the Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee as follows –

Deputy Carina Soares Alves of St. Helier Central was nominated by Deputy Samuel Yves Mézec of St. Helier South .

Connétable Karen Shenton-Stone of St. Martin was nominated by Deputy Mary Rose Le Hegarat of St. Helier North .

In accordance with Standing Order 118, each candidate made a speech and was questioned prior to a recorded vote being taken.

THE STATES, having proceeded to a recorded vote, were informed of the following results by the Deputy Bailiff

Deputy  C.S.   Alves  of   Connétable  of  St.  Martin:  Abstain: 0 St. Helier Central : 21  28

Connétable of St. Helier Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy M. Tadier Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy R.J. Ward Deputy C.S. Alves Deputy I. Gardiner Deputy S.Y. Mézec Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy T.A. Coles


Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews


Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy K.F. Morel Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy A.F. Curtis

The Deputy Bailiff accordingly declared that the Connétable of St. Martin had been duly elected as Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee.

Appointment of the Chair of the Public Accounts Committee

THE STATES, in accordance with Standing Order 119, appointed the Chair of the Public Accounts Committee as follows –

Deputy Lyndsay Victoria Feltham of St. Helier Central was nominated by Deputy Inna Gardiner of St. Helier North .

In accordance with Standing Order 119(2), the candidate made a speech and was questioned. Once the period of questions had concluded, there being no other nominations, the Deputy Bailiff declared that Deputy Lyndsay Victoria Feltham of St. Helier Central had been duly elected as Chair of the Public Accounts Committee.

Appointment of the Chair of the Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel

THE STATES, in accordance with Standing Order 120, appointed the Chair of the Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel as follows –

Deputy Samuel Yves Mézec of St. Helier South was nominated by Deputy Thomas Antony Coles of St. Helier South .

Connétable  Michael  Keith   Jackson  of  St.  Brelade  was  nominated  by   Connétable  Philip  Bond Le Sueur of Trinity .

In accordance with Standing Order 120, each candidate made a speech and was questioned prior to a recorded vote being taken.

THE STATES, having proceeded to a recorded vote, were informed of the following results by the Deputy Bailiff

Deputy  S.Y.   Mézec  of   Connétable  of  St.  Brelade:  Abstain: 0 St. Helier South : 23  22

Connétable of St. Helier Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy C.F. Labey

Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy R.S. Kovacs Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews


Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey

In accordance with Standing Order 120(6A), the Chief Minister and the Minister for Treasury and Resources did not cast a vote.

The Deputy Bailiff accordingly declared that Deputy Samuel Yves Mézec of St. Helier South had been duly elected as Chair of the Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Appointment of the Chair of the Economic and International Affairs Scrutiny Panel

THE STATES, in accordance with Standing Order 120, appointed the Chair of the Economic and International Affairs Scrutiny Panel as follows –

Deputy Raluca Stefana Kovacs of St. Saviour was nominated by Deputy Inna Gardiner of St. Helier North .

Deputy  Mary  Rose   Scott  of  St.  Brelade  was  nominated  by   Deputy  Stephen  George   Luce  of Grouville and St. Martin .

In accordance with Standing Order 120, each candidate made a speech and was questioned prior to a recorded vote being taken.

THE STATES, having proceeded to a recorded vote, were informed of the following results by the Deputy Bailiff

Deputy  R.S.   Kovacs  of   Deputy  M.R.   Scott  of  Abstain: 0 St. Saviour : 19   St. Brelade : 24

Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Peter   Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Deputy G.P. Southern Connétable of Grouville Deputy M. Tadier Connétable of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy R.S. Kovacs


Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy S.M. Ahier Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy R.E. Binet Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

In accordance with Standing Order 120(6A), the Chief Minister, the Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture, the Minister for External Relations and the Minister for International Development did not cast a vote.

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106, Deputy Ian Joseph Gorst of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter declared an interest in the appointment of the Chair of the Economic and International Affairs Scrutiny Panel, in that, as Minister for Treasury and Resources, he was due to receive the remit of Financial Services as part of changes to Ministerial portfolios announced by the Chief Minister, and did not therefore cast a vote.

The Deputy Bailiff accordingly declared that Deputy Mary Rose Scott of St. Brelade had been duly elected as Chair of the Economic and International Affairs Scrutiny Panel.

Appointment of the Chair of the Children, Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel

THE STATES, in accordance with Standing Order 120, appointed the Chair of the Children, Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel as follows –

Deputy Catherine Dolores Curtis of St. Helier Central was nominated by Deputy Lyndsay Victoria Feltham of St. Helier Central .

In accordance with Standing Order 120(2), the candidate made a speech and was questioned. Once the period of questions had concluded, there being no other nominations, the Deputy Bailiff declared that Deputy Catherine Dolores Curtis of St. Helier Central had been duly elected as Chair of the Children, Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel.

Appointment of the Chair of the Environment, Housing and Infrastructure Scrutiny Panel

THE STATES, in accordance with Standing Order 120, appointed the Chair of the Environment, Housing and Infrastructure Scrutiny Panel as follows –

Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier Central was proposed by Deputy Louise Mary Catherine Doublet of St. Saviour .

Deputy Stephen George Luce of Grouville and St. Martin was proposed by Connétable Michael Keith Jackson of St. Brelade .

In accordance with Standing Order 120, each candidate made a speech and was questioned prior to a recorded vote being taken.

THE STATES, having proceeded to a recorded vote, were informed of the following results by the Deputy Bailiff

Deputy  R.J.   Ward  of   Deputy  S.G.   Luce  of  Abstain: 0 St. Helier Central : 21   Grouville  and  St.  Martin:

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Connétable of St. Helier Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson


Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell

Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy M.B. Andrews

In accordance with Standing Order 120(6A), the Minister for the Environment, the Minister for Housing and Communities and the Minister for Infrastructure did not cast a vote.

The Deputy Bailiff accordingly declared that Deputy Stephen George Luce of Grouville and St. Martin had been duly elected as Chair of the Environment, Housing and Infrastructure Scrutiny Panel.

Appointment of the Chair of the Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel

THE STATES, in accordance with Standing Order 120, appointed the Chair of the Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel as follows –

Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier Central was nominated by Deputy Samuel Yves Mézec of St. Helier South .

In accordance with Standing Order 120(2), the candidate made a speech and was questioned. Once the period of questions had concluded, there being no other nominations, the Deputy Bailiff declared that Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier Central had been duly elected as Chair of the Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel.

Appointment of the Chair of the Planning Committee

THE STATES, in accordance with Standing Order 120AA, appointed the Chair of the Planning Committee as follows –

Connétable Philip Bond Le Sueur of Trinity was nominated by Deputy Stephen George Luce of Grouville and St. Martin .

Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade was nominated by Deputy Samuel Yves Mézec of St. Helier South .

In accordance with Standing Order 120AA, each candidate made a speech and was questioned prior to a recorded vote being taken.

THE STATES, having proceeded to a recorded vote, were informed of the following results by the Deputy Bailiff

Connétable of Trinity : 28 Deputy M. Tadier of Abstain: 0

St. Brelade : 17

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy M.B. Andrews


Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy R.S. Kovacs Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson


Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy K.M. Wilson

The Deputy Bailiff accordingly declared that the Connétable of Trinity had been duly elected as Chair of the Planning Committee.

THE STATES rose at 4.07 p.m.

L.-M. HART Greffier of the States