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Environment Scrutiny Panel

PUBLIC MEETING Record of Meeting

Date: 26th April 2007 Meeting Number: 45

Present Deputy R.C. Duhamel (Chairman) (RD)

Deputy P. V. F. Le Claire (PLC)

Connétable A. S. Crowcroft (SC) Apologies Connétable K. A. Le Brun of St Mary (KB)

Absent

In attendance C. Le Quesne, Scrutiny Officer (CLQ) Mr M. Robbins, Scrutiny Officer.(MR)

 

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Agenda matter

Action

1.

Minutes of Previous Meetings

The Minutes of 22nd March 2007 were approved and signed. RD. PLC. SC.

 

2.

Action Updates

The Panel noted the updates from the previous meetings.

The Panel was advised that the full report on the Vienna fact finding  trip  was  to  be  incorporated  in  the  Design  of  Homes Review Report. It was reminded that a press release had been made relating to the trip some time ago.

The  Panel  was  advised  that  the  Waste  Report  was  being progressed and that the Chairman would be assisting with its development.

RD. PLC. SC.

 

3.

Item 3 22.03.07

Design of Homes

The Panel discussed the way forward for its Design of Homes Review. It was decided that the review should be a Scrutiny Review and should be produced within the resources available to it allowing for some input from Deputy S. Power as he was previously the lead member for the Review.

The  Panel  appointed   Deputy  P.  Le  Claire  as  the  new  lead member for the Review.

The Panel noted that some assistance to provide background information from the Planning Department had been offered.

CLQ

The Panel discussed the possible benefits of gathering further evidence for the review. It noted that at the outset of the review there had been tacit agreement to undertake fact finding visits to the Bedzed project in London, Vienna and Malmo. The Panel had undertaken two out of the three of the proposed research visits and decided that it would be beneficial to complete its original proposals.

The Panel agreed to ascertain the availability of the Minister for Planning and Environment to accompany them on the visit prior to making a final decision. It was aware that Malmo was the focus of a European competition waterfront design and would provide the opportunity to see one of the largest residential tower blocks.

It was agreed that the Chairman, the lead member, Mr. Mason if available and one officer would participate and that dates would be  arranged  subject  to  the  Minister's  availability.  The  Panel agreed that it would be content for Deputy Power to participate in the visit should he wish to do so.

The  Officer  was  requested  to  contact  the  Minister  to  obtain suitable dates for the two day visit and subject to those dates being  confirmed  by  the  Panel  to  make  initial  enquiries  with regard to travel and accommodation.

The  Panel  also  considered  a request  from   Deputy  Power to reconsider  its  previous  decision  to  decline  funding  for  the development of a questionnaire for electronic dissemination to target  groups  to  provide  collated  data  to  be  included  in  the design  of  homes  report.  The  Panel  concluded  that  it  would maintain its previous decision not to fund the development of the questionnaire.

RD. PLC. SC.

4. Waste MR Item 4 The Panel received an oral update from the Chairman regarding

22.03.07 the progress of its draft Waste Report and issues relating to the Review.

It recalled that it had previously agreed to provide funding for the Zero Waste trial conducted by the Parish of St. Helier . The Panel authorised the release of £2,000 for the reimbursement of the Parish of St. Helier which should be paid upon presentation of an invoice.  The  Panel  accepted  that  the  amount  was  nominally higher  than  the  estimated  cost  but  considering  the  project findings reflected the value that the project represented. It also noted that overall the total expenditure had been significantly lower than anticipated.

The Panel requested that an official letter of thanks be sent to the Parish of St. Helier on its behalf subsequent to the necessary payment being made.

The  Panel  agreed  that  it  would  be  prepared  to  maintain  an innovative approach to obtaining evidence for its reviews and as such would be prepared to consider further similar experiments

 

on a partnership basis. Those schemes would be controlled and developed to reflect the reviews that it was undertaking and any project would fall within the terms of reference agreed for that review.

The Chairman advised that the draft report was progressing and that the officer had been instructed to begin drafting the public engagement section of the report.

On a related matter the Panel requested that Connétable Murphy be invited to its next meeting to discuss the development of recycling  and  energy  initiatives,  and  that  an  invitation  be extended to a local plastic recycling company namely: Sierra who had presented proposals to the Parish of St. Helier .

The  Panel  discussed  the  proposed  recycling  centre  at  La Collette and the risk assessment which had been undertaken. It was agreed that a letter should be sent to the Planning and Environment  Department  to  enquire  about  the  zoning  of  the area. A letter should also be sent to Mr Colin Myers at the Health and Safety Inspectorate requesting any reports he had relating to the risk assessment and the renewal of the lease on the La Collette site for 10 years.

The Panel  noted that the La Collette development would be addressed within the Review of the Island Plan in 2007. Should a lease be signed for 10 years and the Bunsfield report did not indicate a bigger restricted area than that currently identified then in the long term the site would not be used as indicated.

The Panel requested that an update be requested on the issue from the Minister together with a request for information on all meetings by the strategic report port energy group. The Panel noted that the circles of risk in the new plans were to extend quite considerably and it was essential to know which buildings would be captured. It was agreed that the revised risk zone must be factored into the 2007 Island Plan.

The Panel briefly discussed the implication on facility users in the area  and  the  approach  which  might  be  taken  by  insurance companies with regard to cover in the event of an incident.

RD. PLC. SC.

 

5.

Correspondence and forthcoming issues - Energy

The Panel noted correspondence from Mr Foster, dated 30th March 2007 in relation to energy issues requesting that some form of review be undertaken on issues relating to the generation of energy. Deputy Le Claire agreed to gather information on energy from a Channel Islands' perspective. He would draft an overview of his findings and forward a draft to the Chairman and the Scrutiny Office.

RD, PLC, SC

CLQ

6.

Vehicle Emission Duty

CLQ

The  Panel  discussed  issues  relating  to  the  proposed Environmental Taxes to be levied against vehicle emissions and the suggestion that part of the monies be directed to the general reserve.

The Panel agreed that its view should be drafted and submitted for consideration. It asserted that it did not consider that there was anything wrong with owning a car but that its concerns lay in the inappropriate use of that car, the emphasis of the report on the integrated transport plan should follow the VED concept. The Panel considered that the strategy should focus on a transport hierarchy  and  could  then  introduce  incentives  to  change behaviour. New options on providing alternative fuels appeared not to have been fully investigated and weakened the argument for taxing vehicle emissions when some did not emit pollutants.

The Panel agreed that the situation with regard to tax deductible work  vehicles  should  be  confirmed  with  the  Comptroller  of Income Tax.

The Panel suggested that whilst high taxation of polluting fuel was an option which could be pursued it did not address the individuals  who  chose  to  invest  in  clean  fuel -vehicles.  It considered  that  the  key  focus  should  be  encouraging  the population towards the use of electric or hydrogen fuel cost - cost of or electric vehicles. Whilst the purchase of such vehicles was currently high the Panel agreed that it would support and encourage incentives such as exemptions on importation tax for electric cars.

The Panel agreed that if Vehicle Registration Duty were to be discontinued  and  replaced  with  Vehicle  Emission  Duty  then monies raised must be invested into environmental issues in a transparent way and not absorbed into general funds.

The  Panel  decided  that  the  Ministers  for  Treasury  and Resources and Planning and Environment should be asked to provide it with the latest reports and information on the proposed environmental taxes.

RD, PLC, SC

7. EDAW Report MR

The Panel discussed the EDAW Report and the necessity for it to provide a comment in response to the consultation period.

The Panel considered some of the issues raised within the report including the viability of Fort Regent and the impact that the removal of the cable car link had on its accessibility and use.

The effect of empty office space was discussed and the potential for using that space for residential accommodation.

The  Panel  agreed  to  discuss  its  comment  fully  at  its  next meeting.  It  was  considered  essential  that  any  strategic development should protect the centre of town as commercial and include residential communities within that. It was agreed

 

that the dilution of the commercial activity in the St. Helier centre would be detrimental to the vibrancy of the town and it was suggested that strong links between the town and waterfront were essential.

The  consultation  cut  off  date  for  the  Edaw  report  would  be confirmed by the officers in order that the Panel could submit a comment.

RD, PLC, SC

 

8.

Notes  of  meeting  with  the  Minister  for  Transport  and Technical Services

The  Panel  discussed  the  draft  Transport  Strategy  and considered its content. It questioned the effectiveness of the proposals  when  research  supporting  that  document  had identified that 49% of people would not travel on a bus and had asserted that they had cars they would continue to use.

It was noted that the response to the provision of school buses - 21% of people approached said they would use the service if it were free. The Panel noted that during the course of the meeting with the Minister the Chairman had put forward a number of other alternatives which should be considered.

It  was  agreed  that  confirmation  should  be  sought  from  the Department as to which suggestions from the Panel following the meeting with the Minister had or were to be included in the draft. It was also agreed that the release date for the revised strategy should be obtained together with information on the consultation method to be used.

RD, PLC, SC

CLQ

9.

Transport, Business Plans and Energy -

The Chairman reminded the Panel that there remained a number of matters to consider with regard to the draft transport policy.

Work was required on the Business Plans and a comment was required from the Panel in this regard. The Chairman agreed to compile  bullet  points  outlining  the  areas  of  concern  and  to circulate that through the Scrutiny Office for Panel approval.

The Panel agreed that it was necessary to complete both of its current reviews prior to commencing any new reviews.

RD, PLC, SC

RD/CLQ

9

Matters for information

The Panel noted the following matters for information

  1. A letter dated 11th April 2007 from the Jersey Ecology Fund responding to previous correspondence;
  1. Conferences taking place -

 

Environmental Technology and Environment Services 1st to 3rd May 2007 - the Panel would not attend;

MCERTS - 25th-26th April 2007, the Panel would not attend;

SDUK Annual Conference Thursday 5th July 2007, QE2 conference centre the Panel would not attend;

"Think, can you afford not to?" Conference, 1st to 3rd

May 2007, the Panel decided that whilst it would have

been useful to attend it would not be able to do so due to

the States sitting, however the officer was requested to obtain copies of the lectures that would be delivered if possible; CLQ

  1. It was noted that Sir David King, Scientific Environment Adviser to the United Kingdom Government was giving a presentation  on  Monday 30th  May  2007  to  deliver  a lecture at the Jersey Opera House. The Panel decided to attend;
  2. A request from Orchid to attend a Panel meeting to discuss the way forward was declined until an official request had been made to the Chairman outlining the reasons for that attendance request.

10 The Panel noted that the date for its next meeting would be the

10th May 2007.

Signed Date: ..

Chairman

Deputy R.C. Duhamel