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Health and Social Security - Approved Panel Minutes - 20 November 2014

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Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel

Record of Meeting

Date: 20th November 2014

 

Present

Deputy R. Renouf , Chairman Deputy G. Southern , Vice-Chairman Deputy T. McDonald

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Absent

 

In attendance

Miss S. McKee , Scrutiny Officer Miss K. Boydens , Scrutiny Officer

 

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Agenda matter

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1.  Welcome

The Chairman welcomed all Members to the Panel's first meeting.

 

 

2.  Vice-Chairman

On the Chairman's proposal, the Panel appointed Deputy G. Southern as its Vice-Chairman in accordance with Standing Order 135(5).

 

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3.  Working Practices

The  Panel  noted  the  recommendations  of  a  Report  (R.118/2011) undertaken by the previous Chairman's Committee, which examined the role of Scrutiny within the existing structure of government. The Panel agreed to be mindful of the recommendations whilst undertaking its own reviews during this term of office.

The Panel noted the importance of openness and transparency with Members of the public in regards to the work it carries out. Accordingly, the Panel agreed that the majority of Hearings would be held in public.

Consideration  was  given  to  the  involvement  of  Scrutiny  in  policy development. The Panel agreed that it would be beneficial for the Panel to begin work at the early stages of policy development and that any confidentiality agreement drawn up between the Panel and the relevant Department would be respected and adhered to. However, it was noted that a confidential agreement would also make it more difficult for the Panel to engage in the initial stages of policy development as a result of being unable to question the Minister about the draft policy in the public domain.

It was agreed that good communication between the Panel and the Departments and a willingness of the executive to work with Scrutiny were of utmost importance.

In regards to communication between Members and Officers, it was agreed that all Panel Members should check their emails regularly for Panel correspondence. It was further agreed that both Scrutiny Officers would be copied in to all emails sent to the Scrutiny Office in relation to the Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel.

 

 

4.  Future Meetings

The Panel considered a meeting schedule for the remainder of 2014 and  2015,  noting  the  Chairman's  proposal  that  the  Panel  meet fortnightly at 9:30am on Thursday mornings. The Panel adopted the schedule as proposed.

The Panel noted that three of its scheduled meetings were due to take place over the States summer recess. It was agreed that it would be preferable,  if  possible,  to  conclude  reviews  on  the  lead  up  to  the summer recess due to Member availability. The Panel further agreed to re-visit this matter at a later date.

The Scrutiny Officer was requested to send meeting requests to the Panel for the agreed scheduled meeting dates.

The Panel noted that its next scheduled meeting would take place on 4th December 2014.

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5.  Quarterly Hearings

The Panel considered arrangements for Quarterly Hearings in 2015. It was agreed that the first Quarterly Hearing would be held in February to allow the Panel time to receive the briefings from the respective Ministers and their Departments and to have familiarised themselves with the Ministers' remits and work-streams before the first hearing.

The Panel noted that the previous Health, Social Security and Housing Panel had divided its Quarterly Hearings by Department. It was further noted that due to the Health Department being so vast, the previous Panel  agreed  to  separate  the  Health  Quarterly  Hearings  into  two particular areas; community services and acute services, covering one area at one Hearing and the other at the subsequent Hearing.

The Panel noted that although the previous arrangement allowed for more focused and manageable Hearings it did not allow for a great deal of flexibility. As a result the Panel agreed, for the time being, to hold one Hearing every Quarter with the  Minister for Health and Social Services, which would cover all subject areas.

The Panel noted that potential areas of questioning for the Hearings would be discussed at a preceding Panel meeting and, based on that discussion, a question plan would be drafted and circulated to the Panel prior to the Hearing date. The Panel agreed that the questions asked by Members in the States during question time could be useful when considering question areas for Quarterly Hearings.

The Panel noted that the purpose of a Quarterly Hearing was to hold the  Minister  to  account  for  the  work  being  undertaken  within  their Department. As a result, the Panel agreed that it would be preferable if the Ministers were not accompanied by a large number of Officers to the  Hearings.  The  Scrutiny  Officers  were  requested  to  advise  the Departments accordingly.

The Panel further agreed that it would be helpful to receive information from the Department about detailed or technical subject areas prior to the Hearing, to help aid discussions.

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The  Scrutiny  Officers  were  requested  to  identify  potential  hearings dates with the relevant Departments and revert to the Panel.

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6.  Introductory Meetings

The Panel agreed that it would be beneficial to hold informal meetings with the Minister for Health and Social Services and the Minister for Social Security in the forthcoming weeks to discuss potential review topics and the Ministers' future work priorities. The Scrutiny Officers were requested to contact the relevant Departments and make the necessary arrangements.

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7.  Work Programme

The Panel noted the legacy report of the former Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel and considered the establishment of its Work Programme.

The Panel considered previous correspondence that had been sent to the former Health and Security Scrutiny Panel in respect of patient safety in the hospital. The Panel noted that due to the particular case being  a  personal  grievance  matter,  it  was  unable  to  examine  the submission  further.  However,  the  Panel  agreed  that  the  matter  of patient safety in the hospital in general was an important issue.

During  its  discussion  the  Panel  identified  the  following  subjects  as potential review topics:

  • Respite Care for Adults
  • Sex Discrimination Regulations
  • Mental Health
  • Maternity Leave
  • Family Friendly Legislation
  • Living Wage
  • Zero Hour Contracts
  • Performance Monitoring in Departments

The Panel agreed to enquire about the work currently being undertaken in  respect  of  these  areas  at  the  introductory  meetings  with  the Ministers.

The Chairman recalled that email correspondence had been circulated to  all  election  candidates  by  the  Chairman  of  the  Special  Needs Advisory Panel (SNAP), which indicated its top three priorities. The Chairman agreed to circulate the email to the Scrutiny Officers for their information.

The Panel agreed to request a meeting with the Chairman of SNAP to discuss its priorities and potential topics of review. The Scrutiny Officer was asked to enact the necessary arrangements.

The Panel requested an updated corporate governance structure and operations structure for the hospital.

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8.  Conflicts of Interest

The  Chairman  declared  a  potential  conflict  of  interest due  to  a  family  member  being  in  current  receipt  of  Health  Care Services and the future possibility of them benefiting from the Long-

 

 

Term Care Scheme. Deputy G. Southern also declared a potential conflict of interest as a Union representative.

It was agreed that neither declaration warranted any concern in regards to their impact on the Panel's potential work programme.

The Panel further agreed that at the start of each review, consideration would be given to whether any Member had a conflict in the relevant area.

 

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9.  Scrutiny Training

The  Panel  noted  that  Scrutiny  Training  would  be  provided  for  all Scrutiny and Public Accounts Committee Members on the Scrutiny Review Process on 2nd and 3rd December 2014. The Panel further noted that all of its Members would be attending the training that is being provided.

The  Panel  was  advised  that  non-executive  Members,  who  are  not appointed to a Scrutiny Panel, will be invited to attend parts of the training that covers general information about the Scrutiny process.

 

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10. Visit to Westminster

Consideration was given to the potential benefits that a visit to the House of Commons would have for the Panel. It was agreed that visiting a Select Committee meeting, as well as a discussion with the Committee Chairman, would be an educational experience.

The Panel noted that, due to the forthcoming UK elections in May 2015, visits  to  Westminster  would  be  limited  to  December  2014  to  mid- February 2015 then again in October 2015 onwards. It was agreed that the Panel should look into the possibility of visiting Westminster in the early part of 2015. The Panel further agreed to extend the visit to include London Assembly.

Due to its remit, the Panel would be invited to attend either the Health Committee meeting; the Work & Pensions Committee meeting; or the Communities  &  Local  Government  Committee  meeting. The  Officer was requested to ascertain who chaired each Committee before the Panel made the decision as to which meeting it wished to attend.

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