Skip to main content

Public Accounts Committee - Approved Committee Minutes - 31 March 2014

This content has been automatically generated from the original PDF and some formatting may have been lost. Let us know if you find any major problems.

Text in this format is not official and should not be relied upon to extract citations or propose amendments. Please see the PDF for the official version of the document.

Public Accounts Committee Record of Meeting

Date: 31st March 2014 Meeting No: 44

 

Present

Deputy T. Vallois, Chairman Senator S.C. Ferguson Deputy G.C.L. Baudains Deputy R. Rondel

Mr. I. Ridgway

Apologies

Mr. J. Mills, C.B.E. Mr. R. Parker

Absent

 

In attendance

Mrs. K .McConnell, Comptroller and Auditor General

Mr. S. Cookson, Affiliate, Jersey Audit Office

Mr. I. Clarkson, Officer to the Public Accounts Committee Mrs. E. Turner, Scrutiny Officer, States Greffe

 

Ref Back

Agenda matter

Action

 

1.  Records of Meetings

The records of the meetings held on 20th February, 28th February and 3rd March 2014 were approved.

 

Item 2 03.03.14

512/1 (44)

2.  Conflicts of Interest

No conflicts of interest were declared.

 

Item 7 03.03.14

1443/10 (57)

3.  Comptroller  and  Auditor  General  Report:  Public Audit in Jersey (R.77/2013)

The  Committee  was  advised  that  the  Chairman  and  the Scrutiny Manager had met with the Chief Minister and the Chief  Executive,  States  of  Jersey  on  13th  March  2014 to confirm  the  position  regarding  implementation  of  the recommendations  made  in  R.77/2013.   Having  received assurances that the Chief Minister continued to support full implementation  of  the  recommendations  made  and  had agreed  that  the  necessary  legislation  should  be  drafted, lodged  and  debated  by  July  2014,  the  Chairman  had concluded that the Committee should not need to lodge a related  proposition  seeking  States'  endorsement  of  the recommendations.

The  Committee  recalled  that  the  States  would  need  to consider reappointing the Comptroller and Auditor General

 

 

during  2014.   Whilst  acknowledging  and  endorsing  the Committee's  unqualified  confidence  in  the  existing  office holder,  the  Chairman  confirmed  that  she  would  feel uncomfortable endorsing the appointment or reappointment of any professional to the office until such time as the series of issues  highlighted  in  R.77/2013  had  been  addressed satisfactorily.

The Committee noted the position and recommended that the Chairman monitor the rate of progress closely.

Chairman

Item 4 03.03.14

512/18

4. Canbedone Productions Limited Grant

The Committee noted that its supplementary report had been presented to the States on 4th March 2014 as P.A.C.1/2014 and  that  the  Chairman  had  made  a  statement  in  the Assembly  regarding  the  Committee's  findings  and recommendations.

It was reported that the Minister for Economic Development and  his  department  had  expressed  to  the  Chairman  their concern regarding certain answers given to questions asked immediately  following  her  statement. The  Chairman  had responded  by  reiterating  the  Committee's  recommendation that legal advice should be sought on the technical matter of delegation of powers from Ministers to officers in respect of contracts. In this regard, the Chairman had drawn attention to potentially relevant differences in the wording of Financial Directions 5.1 and 5.5. Further to the above, the Chairman had re-confirmed that the Committee had received from the department  a  record  of  expenditure  incurred  by  the  film company and that the Committee had been mindful of this document when paragraph 2.18 of the supplementary report had been finalised.

The Committee resolved to consider formal responses to its supplementary report at its next scheduled meeting.

IC

Item 3 03.03.14

512/20

IC

Hearing 2

The  Chief  Executive,  States  of  Jersey  and  the  Head  of Information Services, Chief Minister's Department

The  Committee's  officer  was  instructed  to  make  the necessary arrangements.

 

Item 6 03.03.14

512/1(8)

6. Comptroller and Auditor General: work programme  The Committee –

  1. received a presentation concerning the ongoing review of governance concerning the Housing Transformation Programme
  2. considered  the  Comptroller  and  Auditor  General's report on internal audit (R.36/2014 refers).
  3. considered  the  Comptroller  and  Auditor  General's report on procurement (R.40/2014 refers), and
  4. received an oral update regarding progress against the Audit Plan.

Regarding  the  reports  cited  at  (b)  and  (c)  above,  the Committee was satisfied that the various findings highlighted and recommendations made warranted further attention from the  Committee. In  this  regard,  the  Committee  instructed officers to –

  1. make  preparations  in  consultation  with  the  Jersey Audit  Office  for a  public  hearing  in  May 2014 concerning R.36/2014, and
  2. seek  a  written  response  from  the  Chief  Minister's Department  and  the  Treasury  and Resources Department to R.40/2014, in order that the Committee might then determine whether it should hold one or more public hearings on the topic.

Documentation  received  by  the  Committee  regarding  the above  was  classified  as  confidential  in  accordance  with paragraph 3.2.1(b) of the Code of Practice on Public Access to Official Information.

 

Item 8 03.03.14

7. Future meetings

The Committee noted that its next meeting would commence at 12:30 pm on 28th April 2014 in the Blampied Room. It further  noted  that  Mr.  S.   Warr en  would  represent  the Comptroller and Auditor General at the next meeting.

Cttee IC