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Public Accounts Committee

Record of Meeting

Date:  14th September 2015

 

Present

Deputy A.D. Lewis , Chairman Connétable C.H. Taylor Deputy J.A. Martin

Deputy S.M. Wickenden

Mr. R.J. Parker

Mr. M.J. Robinson

Apologies

Mr. G. Drinkwater

Absent

 

In attendance

Mrs. K. McConnell, Comptroller and Auditor General Mr. I. Clarkson, Clerk to the Public Accounts Committee

 

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Agenda matter

Action

 

A1.  Minutes

The minutes of the meetings held on 15th July, 27th July, 4th August and 27th August 2015 were approved.  

 

Item A2 27.07.15

A2.  Conflicts of Interest

No new conflicts of interest were declared.

 

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A3.  Work Programme

The Committee noted an updated report concerning the status of its work programme for 2015 and beyond.

The  Chairman  advised  the  Committee  that  the  Corporate  Services Scrutiny Panel was minded to launch a review of the proposal to sell a minority stake in Jersey Telecom. It was nevertheless anticipated that such a review might not address the question of the executive response to the C&AG's report concerning the States as shareholder of Jersey Telecom (R.109/2014 refers). In this regard, and having noted that the Draft Medium Term Financial Plan 2016 – 2019 would allocate to the Treasury  and  Resources  Department  growth  monies  in  the  sum  of £200,000 per annum to enhance the shareholder management function, the Committee recommended that the Chairman seek a meeting with the  Minister  for  Treasury  and  Resources  and  the  Treasurer  of  the States regarding the status of work to implement the recommendations made by the C&AG in her report of 2014.

 

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A4.  Terms of Reference (Standing Order 132)

The  Committee  received  a  report  concerning  Standing  Order  132 (Public Accounts Committee: Terms of Reference').

 

 

 

It was noted that the Committee's existing terms of reference were set out in Standing Order No. 132. As currently drafted, the Standing Order did not appear to obligate the Committee to take any action in respect of several different types of reports produced by the C&AG. In addition, the Committee noted scope to better align Standing Order 132 with the scope  of  work  undertaken  by  the  C&AG  in  accordance  with  the Comptroller and Auditor General (Jersey) Law 2014.

The Committee agreed that before considering proposing modifications to its terms of reference, it should first revisit the Code of Practice for Scrutiny Panels and the Public Accounts  Committee and receive a report on the status of works by the Chairman's Committee to update the same.

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A5.  Draft Medium Term Financial Plan 2016-2019

The  Committee  considered  a  draft  comment  to  the  Medium  Term Financial Plan 2016 – 2019.

The Committee noted that the draft comment discussed the extent to which recommendations 1 and 6 of the report PAC.3/2013 (Car Parks Trading  Fund')  and  recommendation  6  of  report  PAC.2/2014 (Integrated  Care  Records  Programme')  had  been  implemented  by executive departments and gave notice of the Committee's provisional intention  in  the  event  that  the  latter  recommendation  was  not implemented before the draft Budget Statement 2016 was to be lodged au Greffe.'

The Committee agreed that it would prefer, if possible, to lodge an amendment to the Draft Medium Term Financial Plan 2016 – 2019 that might  oblige  executive  departments  to  implement  the  3 recommendations in early course.

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A6.  Public Sector Reform

The Committee considered and commented on a revised draft of its report on the Public Sector Reform programme.

A  series  of  further  amendments  were  made  to  the  body  and recommendations made in the draft report. In particular the Committee agreed that both the formal reconstitution of the ministerial steering group and the presentation to the States of a formal evaluation of the status of phase 1 would be necessary to restore adequate governance of the programme and to maintain accountability. It further agreed to draw attention to high-level programme objectives that were either less than ambitious or were difficult to measure.

The  Committee  agreed  that  a  suitably  revised  report  should  be presented to the States in early course.

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A7.  Financial Management

The Committee considered the executive response to the report of the C&AG's report on financial management (R.38/2015 refers).

The Committee recalled that it had waited more than 17 weeks to receive the executive response and that the principal excuse offered to the  Committee  for  the  delay  had  been  the  volume  of  work  being

 

 

 

undertaken by executive departments to produce the Draft Medium Term Financial Plan 2016 – 2019.

Having considered the response provided, the Committee concluded that it could not determine whether a project plan for implementing the C&AG's recommendations had been devised. Neither was it clear why the  timescales for  implementing  a  number  of the  recommendations extended beyond 2018.

The Committee agreed that it should, at its next scheduled meeting, consider a scoping document and draft terms of reference for a follow- up review of financial management across the States.

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A8.  Financial Directions

The  Committee  noted  that  an  executive  response  to  its  report  on Financial Directions was due to be submitted by 17th September 2015.

 

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A9.  Comptroller and Auditor General – Work Programme

The Committee noted the following follow-up reports produced by the Comptroller and Auditor General –

  1. Internal Audit (R.95/2015)
  2. Procurement (R.96/2015)
  3. Use of Management Information in HSSD Operating Theatres (R.97/2015).

 

Signed  Date: ..  

Chairman Panel