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Approved Panel Minutes - Future Hospital Review Panel - from May 2019

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The Future Hospital Review Panel

Records of Meetings

Year: 2019

The following records of meetings have been approved by the Panel. Signed

Chairman

Senator Kristina Moore

Date: 8th May 2019

 

Present

Senator Kristina Moore Senator Sarah Ferguson Deputy Mary Le Hegarat Deputy Rob Ward

Apologies

Connétable Mike Jackson Connétable John Le Maistre Deputy Kirsten Morel

Absent

 

In attendance

Tim Oldham , Assistant Greffier: Scrutiny

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Chair

The Panel agreed that Senator Kristina Moore would serve as Chair of the Review Panel for the envisaged phase of work.

 

2.  Scoping Document and Terms of Reference

The Panel considered its approach to the recent publication of  R.54/2019 New Hospital Project: Next Steps' by the Chief Minister. As a result it requested a number of changes to the outline scoping document and terms of reference, which would be circulated for further consideration at its next meeting.

 

3.  Future Meeting

The Panel agreed to meet at 10am on Thursday 23rd May.

 

Date: 23rd May 2019

 

Present

Senator Kristina Moore Senator Sarah Ferguson Deputy Mary Le Hegarat Deputy Kirsten Morel Deputy Rob Ward

Apologies

Connétable Mike Jackson Connétable John Le Maistre

Absent

 

In attendance

Sammy McKee , Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Record of Meetings

The Panel approved the record of the meeting held on 8th May 2019.

 

2.  Vice-Chair

The Panel considered the appointment of a Vice-Chair. The Chairman advised the Panel that she had spoken to Connétable Jackson prior to the meeting and that he was  happy  to  be  Vice-Chair  of  the  Review  Panel.  The  Panel  agreed  with  the Connétable s appointment to this role.

 

3.  Scoping Document and Terms of Reference

The Panel considered a draft Scoping Document and draft Terms of Reference for its review. The Panel agreed the Scoping Document and the Officer was requested to send it to Chairmen's Committee for approval. The Panel discussed the Terms of Reference and agreed to make some minor amendments. The Officer was requested to make the agreed changes and to recirculate the Terms of Reference to the Panel for further approval.

With regard to the structure of the review, it was agreed that the Panel would produce a mini report' every 3 months as a means of regularly updating the States Assembly and the public on the Chief Minister's progress and holding him to account for the work undertaken on the next phase of the new hospital.

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4.  Public Hearing with the Chief Minister

The Panel agreed to receive the Chief Minister for a Public Hearing at 2:30pm on Friday 14th June. It was further agreed that the Panel would meet at 11:30am on 12th June to prepare for the Hearing. The Officer was requested to send out meeting requests. The Panel considered and identified areas of questioning for its Public Hearing with the Chief Minister. The Officer was requested to draft a question plan to circulate to the Panel.

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5.  Visits

The Panel considered the possibility of visiting hospitals in other jurisdictions as part of the evidence gathering phase of its review. However, it was agreed that it would not be appropriate, or indeed necessary, to spend money on such visits. The Panel agreed

 

 

that video conferencing could be used as a means of gathering evidence, if it was required at the later stages of the Panel's review.

 

6.  Future Meetings

The Panel noted that it was due to meet next on the 12th June to prepare for its Public Hearing and agreed that it would discuss future meeting dates then.

 

Date: 12th June 2019

 

Present

Senator Kristina Moore , Chair Connétable Mike Jackson , Vice-Chair Senator Sarah Ferguson

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat

Deputy Kirsten Morel

Deputy Rob Ward

Connétable John Le Maistre

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Sammy McKee , Scrutiny Officer

Lindsey Power, Assistant Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Public Hearing

The Panel prepared for its Public Hearing with the Chief Minister that was due to take place at 2:30pm on Friday 14th June. A draft question plan was considered and the Panel identified a number of amendments which the Officer was requested to enact. It noted that a revised question plan would be circulated to the Panel.

The  Panel  asked  the  Officer  to  request  organograms  from  the  Chief  Minister's Department to help explain the organisational structure of the boards/teams/groups involved in the new hospital project.

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2.  Future Meetings

The Panel agreed to next meet at 12pm on Thursday 20th June.

 

Date: 14th June 2019

 

Present

Connétable Mike Jackson , Vice-Chair Senator Sarah Ferguson

Deputy Kirsten Morel

Deputy Rob Ward

Connétable John Le Maistre

Apologies

Senator Kristina Moore , Chair Deputy Mary Le Hegarat

Absent

 

In attendance

Deputy J. Le Fondre, Chief Minister

Deputy H. Raymond, Assistant Chief Minister

Charlie Parker, Chief Executive Officer

Caroline Landon, Director General – Health and Community Services

Gary Eisner, Scrutiny Officer

Lindsey Power, Assistant Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Public Hearing

The Review Panel received the Chief Minister and his Officers at a Public Hearing. A transcript was made of the proceedings and would be available to view on the States Assembly website.

 

Date: 20th June 2019

 

Present

Senator Kristina Moore , Chair Connétable Mike Jackson , Vice-Chair Senator Sarah Ferguson

Connétable John Le Maistre

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat

Deputy Kirsten Morel

Deputy Rob Ward

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Sammy McKee , Scrutiny Officer

Lindsey Power, Assistant Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1. Records of Meetings

The Panel approved the records of the meetings held on 23rd May, 12th June and 14th June 2019.

 

2. Public Hearing with Chief Minister

The Panel discussed the outcome of the Hearing with the Chief Minister on 14th June 2019.

The Panel noted the Chief Minister's proposal for a hospital with satellite treatment centres and considered how this differed to what had been agreed in P.82/2012 – Health and Social Services: A New Way Forward'. The Panel requested the Officer to circulate P.82/2012 in order to refresh itself with the content.

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3. Next Steps

It was agreed that it would be beneficial to invite Caroline Landon, Director General of Health and Community Services, to meet with the Panel in order to discuss the proposed new model of care. The Panel also agreed to ask the Director General for further details regarding the engagement that had taken place with primary care providers following the presentation of R.54/2019 – New Hospital Project: Next Steps'.

The Panel discussed the method by which the planning permission for the new hospital might be determined. It agreed that a private meeting with the Minister for the Environment would be beneficial for understanding how the new hospital would be considered when developing the Island Plan. The Officer was requested to liaise with the Departments and to make the necessary arrangements. The Panel requested that, if possible, the meetings take place on the same day.

The Panel considered the make-up and function of the Political Oversight Group (POG) and its reporting lines. The Officer was asked to request POG's Terms of Reference (TORs) and the minutes of all meetings that have been held to date.

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4. Name of Review

 

 

The Panel considered the content of the Chief Minister's letter and concluded that it was unnecessary to change the name of the Review.

 

5. FOI Requests

The Panel undertook to review the requests and revert with any matters arising.

 

6. Next Meeting

The Panel noted that its next meeting would take place on a date to be determined and to coincide with the meetings to be scheduled under Item 3.

 

Date: 15th August 2019

 

Present

Senator Kristina Moore , Chair Senator Sarah Ferguson Deputy Mary Le Hegarat Deputy Kirsten Morel

Deputy Rob Ward

Apologies

Connétable Mike Jackson , Vice-Chair Connétable John Le Maistre

Absent

 

In attendance

Caroline Landon – Director General, Health and Community Services (Item 5 only)

Rob Sainsbury – Group Medical Director, Health and Community Services (Item 5 only)

Rose Naylor – Chief Nurse, Health and Community Services (Item 5 only) Deputy Hugh Raymond - Assistant Minister for Health and Social Services (for part of Item 5 only)

Sammy McKee , Scrutiny Officer Lindsey Power, Assistant Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1. Records of Meetings

The Panel approved the records of the meetings held on 20th June 2019.

 

2. Public Hearing with Chief Minister

The Panel noted the content of the letter received from the Deputy Chief Minister and agreed to meet with the Political Oversight Group (POG) to receive an update on the Chief Minister's "New Hospital Project: Next Steps" (R.54/2019). The Panel identified 6th September as a possible meeting date and the Officer was requested to liaise with the Department and enact the necessary arrangements.

The Panel noted that R.54/2019 had been published in May 2019 but it had yet to receive any detail of the proposals. The Panel therefore asked the Officer to request any relevant documentation that was available to review before the meeting.

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3. External Support

The Panel considered whether it would be necessary to engage an expert advisor at this stage of its review to help interpret any future documentation provided by the Chief Minister on the new Hospital and new Health Care Model.

The Panel agreed to await for receipt of documentation from the Chief Minister's Department before considering what expert advisor support may be appropriate.

 

4. Public Hearings and Briefings

 

 

The Panel discussed possible future public hearings and agreed that it would not be appropriate to fix any such hearings until detail of the new Hospital and Health Model was made available.

 

5. Meeting with Director General of Health and Community Services

The Panel met with the Director General of Health and Community Services to discuss the proposed new model of health care and how the hospital project has progressed to date since R.54/2019 was published in May. This meeting was held in private in accordance with the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended) under Qualified Exemption Article 34.

 

6. Next Meeting

The Panel noted that its next meeting would take place at 1pm on 5th September 2019.