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Approved Panel Minutes - Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel - 2022 (Post-Election)

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Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel

Records of Meetings 2022

The following records of meetings have been approved by the Panel. Signed

Chair

Deputy Geoff Southern

Date: 28th July 2022  

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache Deputy Barbra Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

In attendance

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1. Procedural and Administrative Matters

The Panel appointed Deputy Philip Bailhache as the Vice Chair and noted that he would deputise for the Chair in the event of his temporary absence or incapacity.

It was agreed that regular Panel meetings would be held on Thursday mornings between 10:00-11:30am with the exception to States' sitting weeks. The Officer was requested to circulate outlook calendar invitations to this effect.

The Panel noted Standing Orders S.O. 138 (6) and noted the arrangements for briefing oral witnesses and the approach to managing written evidence (CoP, para 72 and CoP, para 74).

The Panel noted that it would not consider individual matters as areas for review in line with the Code of Practice for Scrutiny Proceedings.

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2. Declarations and Conflicts of Interests

The Panel noted the declarations and conflicts of interest section of the Scrutiny and Public  Accounts  Committee  Proceedings:  Code  of  Practice.   Deputy   Ward  and Deputy Bailhache declared the possibility of future conflicts of interest, depending on the Panel's work due to being members of the States Employment Board (SEB). It was agreed that both members would withdraw from undertaking any review in the future that conflicted with their position on SEB.

The Panel noted that the opportunity to declare future conflicts of interests would be raised as part of the scoping exercise for all future reviews and work programmes.

 

3. Working Practices

The Panel agreed that scheduled meetings should take place in-person where possible.

The Panel was advised that Microsoft Teams would be the default application for communications and information sharing. The Panel requested papers be sent on email and provided in hard copy whilst gaining further experience in Microsoft Teams.

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4. Scrutiny Member training

The Panel noted that the Scrutiny Liaison Committee had approved options for external training on relevant areas, such as: guidance on effective scrutiny, Chair training, media training and question training. The Panel acknowledged the training packages provided and asked that the Officer provide intended dates for each one prior to the Panel's next meeting.

The Panel welcomed the opportunity to visit the House of Commons in Westminster and the Officer was requested to provide further information, including potential dates.

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5. Work programme

The Panel noted the Legacy Report of the former Health and Social Security Panel (SR.16/2022).

The Panel provided Officers with an outline of their individual interests and formed a list of priorities. The Panel considered a draft letter to the Minister for Health and Social Services requesting a list of her priorities for the next 6 months and an update on a number of outstanding pieces of work. The Panel agreed to add a number of additional questions and tasked the Officer to draft a similar letter to the Minister for Social Security. The Panel noted that both letters would be circulated for approval once finalised.

The Panel also noted that a letter had been sent to the Minister for Health and Social Services by the Chair, prior to the establishment of the Panel, regarding the Jersey Care Model. It was further noted that a response from the Minister had not yet been received despite the deadline being 26th July 2022. The Officer was requested to follow-up with the Minister for a response.

The Panel further discussed any workstreams that needed to be continued or finalised following the previous Panel's work. The Panel noted that it was awaiting a Ministerial  Response  to  the  former  Panel's  follow-up  review  of  Mental  Health Services and requested that the Officer request an update from the Minister.

The Panel agreed that it would deliberate on the key focus areas for reviews at the next meeting.

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6. Stakeholder visits

The Panel discussed potential site visit opportunities and was informed by the Officer of the opportunity to visit Samares Ward early in August with the Minister for Health and Social Services. The Panel agreed that the visit would be beneficial and asked the Officer to make the necessary arrangements.

The Panel also requested information be provided on opportunities to visit Mental Health facilities at its next meeting.

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7. Future Meetings

It was agreed that the Panel's next scheduled meeting would take place the week commencing 8th August 2022. The specific date, time and location was to be determined.

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Date: 10th August 2022

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair

Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair (Item 2 onwards) Deputy Barbra Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

In attendance

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Records of meetings

The Panel noted and approved the records of the meetings held on 28th July 2022 (public and private).

 

2.  Ministerial Priorities and Update on Workstreams

The Panel noted that requests had been sent to both the Minister for Social Security and the Minister for Health and Social Services for confirmation of their priorities over the next 6 months and updates on their workstreams.

At the time of the meeting, the Panel had received a response letter from the Minister for Social Security. The Panel noted the letter and discussed the benefits of the Customer and Local Services (CLS) doors re-opening to drop-in visitors for services that fell under the Minister's remit. It was also noted that the Minister advised that her department was liaising with Revenue Jersey to establish how they could offer a consistent service across all areas of activity and how to ensure that this was clearly communicated to the public. The Officer was asked to draft a response to the Minister requesting her to inform members of the public that CLS was open to drop-in visitors for Social Security matters, without delay.

The Panel was advised that the letter from the Health and Social Services Minister was due that day and, if this was not received by close of play, the Officer would contact the Department.

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3.  Jersey Care Model

The Panel noted a letter from the Minister for Health and Social Services in response to the Panel's letter regarding the Jersey Care Model (JCM). The Panel considered its contents and proposed further questions to be asked to the Minister. The Officer was requested to draft a response for the Panel's approval.

The Panel also noted and discussed the offer of a private briefing on the JCM with the Minister and her Officers on the morning of Thursday 8th September. It was advised that the briefing would provide an explanation of the JCM and how it had progressed to date, following its approval by the States Assembly. The Panel agreed that the briefing would be beneficial and requested the Officer to make the necessary arrangements.  The  Officer  was  also  requested  to  liaise  with  the  Health  and Community Services Department to identify a date for a further briefing in October with the Minister and her Officers on the findings from her review of the JCM.

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The Panel noted that, as result of a recommendation that was made by the former Health and Social Services Panel, an Independent Oversight Board (IOB) had been established to hold executives to account for the timely and successful delivery of the JCM. It was also noted that Mr. Mike Greenwood, Chair of the IOB, had offered to meet with the Panel to discuss any questions it had regarding its role and its work undertaken to date. The Panel accepted the offer of a meeting and asked the Officer to make the necessary arrangements. The Officer was also requested to send the Panel copies of the IOB's monthly reports to date.

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4.  Site visits

The Panel noted and discussed its visit to Samares Ward at Overdale that took place on 8th August 2022. The Panel agreed that the visit was productive and enabled further discussion.

The Panel noted a social media post announcing the Panel's visit and requested that the Chair approve all media posts and releases going forward.

The Panel noted that the details of its visit to Mental Health facilities had not yet been confirmed but that the Officer would advise the Panel as soon as arrangements had been finalised.

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5.  Scrutiny Member Training

The Panel noted that the Members Resources Team had offered to provide States Members with one-to-one training on Microsoft Teams if required. It was also noted that, following the Panel's Microsoft Teams training with ALX, the trainer had also offered the Panel one-to-one training at a future date once Members had had an opportunity to practice.

 

6.  Briefings with the relevant Ministers and Departments

The Panel considered the benefit of meeting with the Minister for Social Security and the  Minister  for  Health  and  Social  Services  to  discuss  their  priorities  and workstreams. The Panel agreed these meetings would be productive and requested the Officer to liaise with the Department to identify suitable dates.

The Panel noted the opportunity to meet with the Public Health Team on Thursday 25th August for a briefing on current workstreams. The Panel agreed that the meeting would be beneficial and asked the Officer to confirm and make the necessary arrangements.

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7. Work Programme

The Panel considered potential topic areas for review. The Chair proposed Primary Care and its funding as a topic of considerable interest. It was agreed that the Panel would first establish what work, if any, was currently being undertaken regarding this matter. The Panel was advised that the Health and Community Services Department had begun working on a Sustainable Health Care Funding project and that part of that work was considering the future funding of Primary Care. The Officer was requested to arrange a briefing for the Panel with Officers working on the project to establish its aims and objectives. The Officer was also requested to liaise with the Primary Care Board, following the briefing, to arrange a meeting to discuss its involvement in the work on sustainable health care funding.

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8. Future Meetings

It was agreed that the Panel's next scheduled meeting would take place on 25th August 2022 at 10:00am in the Le Capelain Room.

 

Date: 18th August 2022

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Apologies

Deputy Beatriz Porée

In attendance

Olivia Card, Orchard House Ward Manager

Andrew Weir, Director of Mental Health and Adult Social Care

Kellie Boydens , Principal Committee and Panel Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Site visit to Orchard House and Clinique Pinel

The Panel visited Orchard House, a facility providing mental health treatment for those aged over 18. The Panel was advised that in 2020, improvements had been made  to  the  facility  including  weighted  furniture,  improved  outdoor  space  and communal areas.

The Panel noted that there were a number of challenges with the facility including that both males and females were able to mix in communal areas which, on some occasions, had led to some of the female patients feeling unsafe. The Panel was also advised some patients were occupying beds on a long-term basis due to failed placements in other facilities/services. In that regard, the charging mechanism for those patients needed to be explored further with the Customer and Local Services Department in terms of the Long-Term Care Scheme.

The Panel also visited Clinique Pinel, a psychiatry service for people aged over 65. The Panel was provided with a tour of the existing building structure and new extension works at the facility, which were in varying stages of development. The Panel was advised that a new facility for young people would provide separate areas for males and females and en-suite bedrooms. There would also be flexibility in other ward areas in order to react with particular scenarios in patient care including the need for seclusion rooms and/or facilities for mother and baby.

The Panel thanked the Orchard House Ward Manager and Director of Mental Health and Adult Social Care for their time and they concluded the site visit.

 

Date: 25th August 2022

 

Present

Deputy Geoffrey Southern , Chair Deputy Sir Phillip Bailhache , Vice-Chair Deputy Barbara Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

Apologies

 

In attendance

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Deputy Karen Wilson , Minister for Health and Social Services

Ben Markwell-Sales, Private Secretary to the Minister for Health and Social Services, Office of the Chief Executive

Professor Hugo Mascie- Taylor , External Advisor to the Government of Jersey, Review of Health and Community Services Clinical Governance Arrangements within Secondary Care

Andrew Harris , Principal Committee and Panel Officer Ben Walker , Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Briefing: Review of Health and Community Services Clinical Governance Arrangements within Secondary Care

The Panel received the Minister for Health and Social Services and Professor Hugo Mascie- Taylor , External Advisor to the Government of Jersey, for a private briefing on  the  Government's  Review  of  Health  and  Community  Services  Clinical Governance Arrangements within Secondary Care. This meeting was held in private in accordance with the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended) under Absolute Exemption Article 26 and a private record was taken.

 

2.  Records of Meetings

The Panel noted and approved the record of the meeting held on 10th August 2022.

 

3.  Ministerial Priorities and Update on Workstreams

The Panel noted the response from the Minister for Health and Social Services regarding her priorities over the next 6 months and updates on specific workstreams.

 

4.  Jersey Care Model (JCM) and Sustainable Healthcare Funding

The Officer informed the Panel that the Minister for Health and Social Services had provided written correspondence related to the JCM which would be circulated to the Panel following the meeting. The Panel requested that the Minister's response was provided to it in hard copy.

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5.  Site Visits

The Panel noted and discussed its site visits to Orchard House and Clinique Pinel on 18th August 2022.

 

 

The Panel recalled that Clinique Pinel was currently being redeveloped and that a number of improvements had been made to Orchard House. The Panel requested that a letter was drafted to the Minister asking a number of questions about the redevelopment of the services and the plans for the St Saviours site. The Panel noted that the Officer would provide a list of questions which would be circulated for approval.

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6.  Public Health Briefing

The Officer informed the Panel that alternative dates for a briefing on Public Health's work programme would be identified and provided to the Panel.

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7.  Meeting with the Minister for Social Security

The Panel noted and discussed the proposed dates and times for a meeting with the Minister for Social Security, to discuss her priorities for the remainder of 2022.

 

8.  Future Meetings

The Panel noted that its next scheduled meeting was due to take place at 10am on 8th September 2022.

The Panel requested that the meeting scheduled to take place on 22nd September 2022 was combined with a meeting with the Minister for Social Security, and instead take place at 10am on 29th September 2022, in the Le Capelain Room of the States Assembly Building.

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Date: 8th September 2022

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

In attendance

Anuschka Muller, Director of Improvement and Innovation, Health and Community Services (Item 2 only)

Jo Poynter, Associate Managing Director, Health and Community Services (Item 2 only)

Ruth Johnson , Associate Director Policy, Strategic, Policy, Planning and Performance (Item 2 only)

Tessa Cavey, Business Intelligence Senior Change Manager, Health and Community Services (Item 2 only)

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Records of meetings

The Panel noted and approved the records of the meetings held on 18th and 25th August 2022.

 

2. Jersey Care Model (JCM) and Sustainable Health Care Funding

The Panel received a private briefing with Anuschka Muller, Director of Improvement and Innovation, Health and Community Services; Jo Poynter, Associate Managing Director, Health and Community Services; Ruth Johnson , Associate Director Policy, Strategic, Policy, Planning and Performance and Tessa Cavey, Business Intelligence Senior Change Manager, Health and Community Services regarding Sustainable Health Care Funding and an introduction to the Jersey Care Model.

The Panel received a PowerPoint presentation on both workstreams. The Panel noted that the presentation was extensive and was offered a second meeting for further questions and discussion, should the Panel require it. This meeting was held in private in accordance with the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended) under Absolute Exemption Article 26 and a private record was taken.

 

3.  Ministerial Priorities and Update on Workstreams

The Panel confirmed its meeting with the Minister for Social Security at 12:30pm on the 29th October 2022.The Panel agreed that it would identify a number of specific areas to discuss with the Minister at the meeting. The Officer was requested to draft a list of potential topic areas.

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4.  Public Health Briefing

 

 

The Panel noted that it was due to meet with the Public Health Team at 10am on 27th October 2022 to discuss the Departments work programme for the remainder of the year. The Panel agreed that the meeting should take place in Le Capelain room  in  the  States  building  and  requested  Officers  to  confirm  this  with  the Department.

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5.  Follow-up Review of Mental Health Services

The Panel noted and discussed the Minister for Health and Social Services' response to  the  previous  Panel's  Follow-up  Review  of  Mental  Health  Services  Report (S.R.8/2021). The Panel asked the Officer to draft a response letter to the Minister requesting further information regarding her response to some of the findings and recommendations.

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6. Future Meetings

It was agreed that the Panel's next scheduled meeting would take place at 11:30am on 29thSeptember 2022 in the Le Capelain Room.

 

Date: 29th September 2022  

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

Apologies

Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair

In attendance

Elaine Millar , Minister for Social Security (Item 3 only)

Malcom Ferey , Assistant Minister for Social Security (Item 3 only)

Sue Duhamel, Director for Strategic Policy, Planning and Performance (Item 3 only)

Ian Burns, Director General for Customer and Local Services (Item 3 only)

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Records of meetings

The Panel noted and approved the record of the meeting held on 8th September 2022.

 

2. Government Plan 2023-2026

The Panel noted the key dates regarding the Government Plan 2023-2026 and Common Strategic Policy 2023-2026 and considered its next steps. The Panel noted the current lack of funding from Health and Social Services for medical dressings and equipment, for patients who had been discharged from hospital, as a potential topic of interest when considering the new growth bids in the Government Plan. The Panel agreed that ad-hoc meetings should be arranged outside of its normal scheduled meetings to ensure it had sufficient time to consider and undertake its review of the Government Plan. The Officer was asked to make the necessary arrangements.

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3.  Ministerial Priorities and Update on Workstreams

The Panel received a private meeting with the Minister for Social Security, Elaine Millar , the Assistant Minister for Social Security, Malcom Ferey , Sue Duhamel, Director for Strategic Policy, Planning and Performance and Ian Burns, Director General for Customer and Local Services to discuss the Ministers initial priorities for the remainder of the year and 2023.

This meeting was held in private in accordance with the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended) under Absolute Exemption Article 26 and a private record was taken.

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4.  Follow-up Review of Mental Health Services

The Panel noted a draft letter to the Minister for Health and Social Services which requested further information regarding the Ministerial Response to the previous Panel's Follow-up Review of Mental Health Services. The Panel made several minor amendments to the letter and agreed to include a request to the Minister to provide more detailed responses to Panel findings for future reviews. The Officer advised the

 

 

Panel that an updated letter would be sent for approval once the changes had been made.

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5.  Quarterly Hearings

The Panel noted that it was due to receive the Minister for Social Security for a Quarterly Hearing on 10thNovember and the Minister for Health and Social Services on 1st December.

 

6.  Briefing on Assisted Dying

The Panel considered the opportunity to receive a briefing on Assisted Dying by the Health  and  Community  Services  Department.  Following  discussion,  the  Panel agreed to request a written update from the Minister for Health and Social Services in the first instance and, following receipt of the letter and if deemed necessary, it would consider a briefing. The Officer was asked to liaise with the Department.

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7.  Meeting with the Minister for Health and Social Services

The Panel requested that the arranged meeting with the Health and Social Services Minister on her priorities for the remainder of 2022 and 2023, which was due to take place on the 13th October, be rescheduled due to half of the Panel being unable to attend.

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8.  The Independent Review of the General Hospital

The Panel noted that the Health and Social Services Minister's turn-around plan', in response to the independent review of the quality and safety of clinal services provided in the general hospital, was due to be presented to the States Assembly on Monday 3rd October. It was further noted that the Minister had offered to brief the Panel on Friday 30th September but due to previously arranged member training, it was unavailable on that date. The Officer advised members that the Minister was due to send the turn-around plan' to the Panel on Friday 30th under embargo. The Panel agreed to discuss the report and consider arranging a meeting with the Minister should any questions arise.

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9.  Meeting with the Primary Care Board

The Panel confirmed its availability to meet with the Primary Care Board at midday on 20th October to discuss its involvement with current reviews being undertaken by Health and Community Services in respect of Primary Care and future funding. The Officer advised the Panel that meeting requests would be sent to members diaries.

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10. Future Meetings

It was agreed that the Panel's next scheduled meeting would take place at 10:00am on 13thOctober 2022 in the Le Capelain Room.

 

Date: 13th October 2022

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Apologies

Deputy Beatriz Porée

In attendance

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Records of meetings

The Panel noted and approved the record of the meeting held on 29th September 2022.

 

2.  Government Plan 2023-2026

The  Panel  noted  and  discussed  a  briefing  paper  which  included  background information on the Government Plan 2023-2026, a summary of Scrutiny's approach to the Government Plan review as agreed by the Scrutiny Liaison Committee (SLC), and a list of additional revenue programmes and capital projects that fell under the Panel's remit.

The Panel agreed to meet outside of its scheduled meetings to progress its review of the Government Plan. The Officers were requested to identify several dates for the Panel's consideration.

The Panel considered potential Public Hearing dates with the Minister for Social Security  and  the  Minister  for  Health  and  Social  Services  for  its  review  of  the Government  Plan.  It  agreed  to  utilise  the  Quarterly  Hearing  that  was  already confirmed for 10th November and to split the time into two separate Hearings. It was agreed that it would question the Minister on the Government Plan for the first hour and use the second hour for the Quarterly Hearing. It was further agreed that the Panel would propose 7th November for the Public Hearing with the Minister for Health and Social Services. The Officers were asked to liaise with the Departments and make the necessary arrangements.

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3.  Work Programme

The Panel noted its work programme for the remainder of the year and beginning of 2023 and considered potential review topics and their associated timelines. The Panel was advised that the document would be updated with further updates once available. The Panel requested further information from the Customer Local Services Department regarding an Incapacity Review' that the Minister for Social Security was currently undertaking.

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4.  Follow-up Review of Mental Health Services

The Panel noted the response from the Minister for Health and Social Services to the Panel's previous letter regarding the Ministerial Response. The Panel agreed to consider the letter outside of the meeting and discuss any comments at a later date.

 

 

5.  Update on Assisted Dying

The Panel noted and considered the update from the Minister for Health and Social Services on Assisted Dying. The Panel agreed that the topic would be taken forward on an individual member basis rather than as a Panel and agreed not to request further information at this time.

 

6. Future Meetings

It was agreed that the Panel's next scheduled meeting would take place at 10:00am on 27thOctober 2022 in the Le Capelain Room.

 

Date: 19th October 2022

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

In attendance

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Review of the Government Plan 2023-2026

The Panel noted and approved the Terms of Reference and Scoping Document for its Review of the Government Plan 2023-2026 and requested the Officers to send the documents to the Scrutiny Liaison Committee. The Officer advised the Panel that, once approved, the Terms of Reference would be sent to the Minister for Social Security and the Minister for Health and Social Services for their information.

The Panel discussed a number of areas of the Government Plan which were of particular interest and which it wished to seek further clarification on. The Panel noted and approved draft letters to the Minister for Social Security and the Minister for Health and Social Services in respect of its review. The Officer advised that the letters would be sent to the Ministers that same day.

The Panel considered the opportunity to reach different stakeholders by joining the Corporate Services Panel in facilitating a Town Stand to communicate and gather the views of members of the public.

The Panel requested further information and updates regarding the Sustainable Health Care Funding Review and, specifically, when the consultation process was due to begin. It was noted that a survey was due to be sent to members of the public to gather their views regarding the future funding of health services. The Panel requested to review the draft survey prior to it being distributed to members of the public.

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Date: 27th October 2022

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Apologies

Deputy Beatriz Porée

In attendance

Peter Bradley, Director of Public Health (Item 2 only)

Kellie Boydens , Principal Committee and Panel Officer (Item 2 only) Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer

Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Records of meetings

The Panel noted and approved the record of the meeting held on 13th October 2022.

 

2.  Public Health Briefing

The Panel received the Director of Public Health, Peter Bradley, for a briefing on Public Health and the work of the Public Health Team.

The Panel asked the Director of Public Health if it could be provided with a copy of the PowerPoint presentation following the meeting and he agreed.

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3.  Government Plan 2023-26

The Panel received an update from the Officer regarding the review's progression. The Panel approved the draft letters to key stakeholders and requested that they be sent out as soon as possible.

The Panel noted both the Minister for Health and Social Services and the Minister for Social Security's request for an extension to the response deadline to its letters requesting further information on the Government Plan. The Panel agreed to allow the proposed extensions.

The Panel discussed question areas for the Public Hearings with the Health and Social Services Minister and the Minister for Social Security for its review of the Government Plan 2023-2026. The Panel agreed to meet on Thursday 3rd November to consider the draft question plans. The Panel requested Officers to book a meeting room and send out diary invitations.

The Panel discussed further next steps and the Chair agreed to talk with other States Members regarding amendments.

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4.  Quarterly Hearing with the Minister for Social Security

The Panel considered the draft question plan for the Quarterly Hearing on 10th November with the Minister for Social Security. The Panel agreed the key topics for discussion and considered questioning techniques.

 

 

The Officer advised the Panel that the areas of questioning would be sent to the Customer and Local Services Department five working days before the Quarterly Hearing.

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5. Future Meetings

It was noted that the Panel's next scheduled meeting would take place at 10:00am on 10thNovember 2022 in the Le Capelain Room.

 

Date: 1st November 2022

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

In attendance

Deputy Andy Howell

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Panel Membership

The Panel agreed to co-opt Deputy Howell onto the Panel for its review of the Government Plan 2023-26. The Officer was requested to make the necessary arrangements and to ensure that Deputy Howell was provided with all the relevant documentation.

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Date: 3rd November 2022

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

In attendance

Deputy Andy Howell (co-opted)

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Government Plan: 2023-26

The Panel considered its draft question plan for its Public Hearing with the Minister for Health and Social Services on 7th November 2022. The Panel made a number of minor amendments to the question plan which the Officer was requested to enact.

The Panel was advised that the question plan would be re-circulated to Members once the changes had been made.

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Date: 7th November 2022

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

In attendance

Deputy Andy Howell (co-opted)

Deputy Karen Wilson , Minister for Health and Social Services

Deputy Rose Binet , Assistant Minister for Health and Social Services, Deputy Malcolm Ferey , Assistant Minister for Health and Social Services Peter Bradley, Director for Public Health

Caroline Landon, Director General of Health and Community Services Anuschka Muller, Director of Improvement and Innovation

Claire Thompson, Director of Clinical Services

Clare Ryder, Head of Community Mental Health Services

Michelle Roach, Head of Finance for Health and Community Services Rose Naylor, Chief Nurse

Jonathan  Carter,  Health  and  Community  Services  Estates  and  Hard Facilities Manager

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Government Plan: 2023-2026  

The Panel met before the Public Hearing with the Minister for Health and Social Services to consider any final preparations and confirm the question allocations.

The Panel received the Minister for Health and Social Services and her Officers to the  Public  Hearing  for  its  review  of  the  Government  Plan  2023-2026.  The proceedings were streamed live to the public and a recording was taken so that a written transcript could be produced.

The Panel requested that paper copies of the transcript be provided the following day and that a follow-up private meeting with the Minister for Health and Social Services be arranged.

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Date: 8th November 2022

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

In attendance

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Government Plan: 2023-26

The Panel considered a draft question for its Hearing with the Social Security Minister on 10th November 2022. The Panel identified a number of questions it wished to add to the question plan. The Officer was asked to make the necessary changes and to circulate a final draft to members once the amendments had been made.

The  Chair  allocated  the  questions  to  members  of  the  Panel  to  allow  further preparation ahead of the Public Hearing.  

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2.  Quarterly Hearing with the Minister for Social Security

The Panel considered a draft question plan for its Quarterly Hearing with the Social Security Minister on 10th November 2022. The Panel made a number of minor amendments, and the Officer was asked to make the changes and to re-circulate the question plan to the Panel.

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Date: 10th November 2022  

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

In attendance

Elain Millar , Minister for Social Security

Malcom Ferey , Assistant Minister for Social Security

Ian Burns, Director General of Customer and Local Services

Sue Duhamel, Director of Strategic Policy, Planning and Performance

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Government Plan: 2023-26

The Panel met before the Public Hearing with the Minister for Social Security to consider any final preparations and confirm the question allocations.

The Panel received the Minister for Social Security and her Officers for a Public Hearing for its review of the Government Plan 2023-2026. The proceedings were streamed live to the public and a recording was taken so that a written transcript could be produced.

The Panel requested that paper copies of the transcript be provided the following day.  

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2.  Quarterly Hearing with the Minister for Social Security

The Panel met before the Quarterly Hearing with the Minister for Social Security to consider any final preparations and confirm the question allocations.

The Panel received the Minister for Social Security and her Officers for a Public Quarterly Hearing. The proceedings were streamed live to the public and a recording was taken so that a written transcript could be produced.

The Panel requested that paper copies of the transcript be provided the following day and a follow-up letter to the Minister for Social Security be drafted containing the questions that were not addressed during the Quarterly Hearing.

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Date: 16th November 2022  

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

In attendance

Deputy Andy Howell (Item 1 only)

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Government Plan Review 2023-26

The Panel discussed various options for bringing an amendment to the Government Plan 2023-2026 regarding the use of the Health Insurance Fund to fund the Jersey Care Model and its associated digital strategies.

The Panel agreed to meet to discuss this matter further on Monday 21st November and the Officers were requested to make the necessary arrangements.

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2.  Quarterly Hearing with the Minister for Health and Social Services

The Panel considered a draft question plan for its Quarterly Hearing with the Health and Social Services Minister that was due to take place on 1st December 2022. The Panel made a number of minor amendments, and the Officer was asked to make the changes and to re-circulate the question plan to members.

The  Chair  allocated  the  questions  to  members  of  the  Panel  to  allow  further preparation ahead of the Public Hearing.

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Date: 30th November 2022  

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

Deputy Andy Howell

In attendance

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Government Plan Review 2023-26

The Panel discussed its draft Comments Paper and Recommendations and made some minor amendments. The Panel requested the Officers make the necessary amendments and present an updated draft to the Panel. The Panel agreed that the draft be taken as approved if no further comments were provided by Monday 5th December.

The Panel considered the Minister for Health and Social Services' request for a private meeting to discuss the Panel's recent amendment to the Government Plan. The Panel agreed to meet with the Minister on 1st December in the afternoon and requested Officers to make the necessary arrangements.

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2.  Quarterly Hearing with the Minister for Health and Social Services

The Panel considered an updated draft question plan for its Quarterly Hearing with the Minister for Health and Social Services that was due to take place on 1st December 2022. The Panel requested the final version be printed for all Panel Members.

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3.  Meeting with the Minister for Health and Social Services

The Panel discussed the meeting with the Minister for Health and Social Services and the new Health and Community Services Board Chair, Professor Taylor . The Panel agreed to begin the first fifteen minutes of the meeting with the Minister and invite the new Chair to attend the meeting after. The Panel requested Officers to make the necessary arrangements.

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Date: 1st December 2022

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Deputy Beatriz Porée

Deputy Andy Howell

Apologies

Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair

In attendance

Deputy Karen Wilson , Minister for Health and Social Services

Professor Hugo Mascie- Taylor , Chair of the Health and Community Services Board (Item 1 only)

Deputy Elaine Millar , Minister for Social Security (Item 3 only)

Deputy Malcom Ferey , Assistant Minister for Health and Social Services (Item 2 only)

Caroline Landon, Director General (Item 2 only)

Andy Weir, Director for Mental Health and Adult Social Services (Item 2 only)

Anuschka Muller, Director for Improvement & Innovation (Item 2 only) Steve Graham, Associate Director of People for Health & Community Services (Item 2 only)

Jo Poynter, Associate Director - Improvement & Innovation (Item 2 only) Grace Norman, Deputy Director of Public Health (Item 2 only)

Ruth Johnson , Associate Director for Health Policy (Item 2 only)

Tess Cavey, Senior Change Manager, Business Intelligence (Item 3 only)

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer Rosalyn Sharp, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Meeting with the Minister for Health and Social Services regarding the Health and Community Services Board

The Panel welcomed the Minister for Health and Social Services and thanked her for the offer of a private meeting. The Panel discussed the newly appointed Chair of the Health and Community Services (HCS) Board with the Minister for the first part of the meeting.

During the second part of the meeting the newly appointed Chair of the HCS Board, Professor Hugo Mascie- Taylor was invited to join the meeting via Microsoft Teams. The Panel discussed the Chair's appointment and asked a number of questions regarding the appointment process.

This meeting was held in private in accordance with the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended) under Absolute Exemption Article 26 and a private record was taken.

 

 

2.  Quarterly Hearing with the Minister for Health and Social Services

The Panel held its first Quarterly Hearing with the Minister for Health and Social Services and her Officers. The proceedings were streamed live to the public and a recording was taken so that a written transcript could be produced. Due to the number of questions, some areas were not asked. The Panel requested Officers to draft a letter and pose the unanswered questions in written form.

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3.  Meeting with the Minister for Health and Social Services regarding the Government Plan 2023-26

The Panel met with the Ministers for Health and Social Services and Social Security to discuss its amendment to the Government Plan. The Ministers advised of their intentions to lodge an amendment to the Panel's amendment. It was also advised that the amendment would reduce the amount of funds being transferred from the Health Insurance Fund for the purposes of the Jersey Care Model and digital strategies.

The Panel requested the details behind the proposed amendment to the amendment and asked that the Ministers circulate the draft Report in confidence ahead of its lodging.  Furthermore,  the  Panel  agreed  that  it  would  consider  the  information provided  before  making  a  decision  whether  or  not  to  support  the  proposed amendment.

The Panel thanked the Ministers for the meeting.

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Date: 8th December 2022

 

Present

Deputy Geoff Southern , Chair Deputy Philip Bailhache , Vice Chair Deputy Barbra Ward

Apologies

Deputy Beatriz Porée Deputy Andy Howell

In attendance

Sammy McKee , Committee and Panel Officer Kaya Camara, Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Records of meetings

The Panel noted and approved the records of the meetings held on 10th, 16th and 30th November and 1st December 2022.

 

2. Proposed meetings dates for 2023

The  Panel  noted  and  approved  the  proposed  meeting  schedule  for  2023  and requested the necessary calendar invites to be sent out.

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3.  Proposed Quarterly Hearing dates for 2023

The Panel noted and approved the proposed Quarterly Hearing schedule for 2023 and requested the necessary calendar invites to be sent out.

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4.  Private Briefings

The Panel considered the opportunity to receive private briefings early in the new year regarding the Jersey Care Model, Sustainable Health Care Funding and Waiting Lists. The Panel agreed to receiving private briefings on all topics and requested Officers to schedule the meetings in the order of Waitlists, Jersey Care Model and Sustainable Health Care Funding. The Panel requested the necessary calendar invites be sent out.

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5.  Letter to the Minister for Health and Social Services

The Panel noted their draft letter to the Minister for Health and Social Services with follow-up questions following the Quarterly Hearing. The Panel agreed on some additional question areas and agreed to spending further time outside of the meeting to consider the content and make any amendments. The Panel requested Officers send the letter to the Minister the Morning of 9th December.

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6.  Government Plan 2023-26

The Panel noted that their Comments paper had been presented to the States Assembly that morning.

The Panel discussed their upcoming Amendment to the Government Plan 2023-26 and agreed their speech running order and content.

 

7. Future Meetings

 

 

It was agreed that the Panel's next scheduled meeting would take place at 10:00am on 12thJanuary 2023 in the States Building (room to be confirmed).