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STATES OF JERSEY

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SEA FISHERIES BAG LIMITS (S.R.4/2010): RESPONSE OF THE MINISTER FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

Presented to the States on 8th June 2010 by the Minister for Economic Development

STATES GREFFE

2010   Price code: C  S.R.4 Res.

ANNEX A

Ministerial Response: S.R. 4/2010  Ministerial Response required by 28th May 2010 Review title: Sea Fisheries Bag Limits

Scrutiny Panel: Economic Affairs

Introduction:

Overall the Minister is content with the manner in which the review was conducted although some issues seem to have been misunderstood and these are detailed in the responses

Findings:

 

 

Findings

Comments

1

The Assistant Minister for Economic Development withdrew  P58/2009  Sea  Fisheries  (Bag  Limits) (Jersey)  Regulations  200-  without  advance notification to the Panel. This was discourteous not only to the Panel and all of the stakeholders who had contributed to the Panel's ongoing Review, but also undermines the work and role of Scrutiny.

It is not unusual for a proposition to be withdrawn without notice where circumstances make such  action  appropriate  as it  was  in this  case. For  absolute  clarity  copies  of subsequent correspondence between the Minister and the chairman of the Scrutiny Panel are attached in appendix A

2

The Panel could find only limited evidence of any other  jurisdiction  proposing  or  introducing  Bag Limits  for  the  purpose  of  supporting  a  local commercial fishing industry.

Many jurisdictions state that they have bag limits in place to share the resource'. i.e. Australia for all fish, France for Ormers, whelks, scallops, lobster and crab and some UK Sea Fishery Committee districts for lobster. This is in areas where commercial exploitation is also allowed. These jurisdictions allow continued commercial fishing often with comparatively large quotas but they have seen it equitable or fair to also limit amateur fishing. This information is a matter of public record and should be available to the Scrutiny Panel

3

Bag Limits  are  common  place  elsewhere for the purpose  of  well  evidenced  conservation  reasons. Indeed, a well evidenced conservation case for Bag Limits presented for a threatened marine species is likely to be accepted across the stakeholder groups, although it would need to be applied across the commercial and recreational sectors.  

Bag limits are commonplace elsewhere but importantly they are often in place where the fish stock is not threatened with extinction and commercial fishing is allowed to continue often on a large scale.

 

4

Guernsey  makes  use  of  its  licensing  scheme  to control catches, for example to issue licenses to vessels entitled to fish for shellfish, and those that do not have such a licence are only permitted to catch 5 lobsters and 25 crabs per day.  

Jersey has the same system although the number of lobsters permitted is 15, crabs are the same as Guernsey.

5

Stock controls being considered for the recreational sector  must  in  future  be  accompanied  by reasonable controls on the commercial sector.

The commercial sector is currently controlled by quota measures on many finfish species and limitation on gear .i.e. pot numbers. There are no such controls on amateurs.

6

There  are  apparent  inadequacies  in  the  vessel licensing  system  in  Jersey.  There  are  currently about 164 licensed (J registered) boats, but this is not a fixed limit because of the open market for licences throughout the U.K., Jersey and Guernsey.

The vessel licensing system is the same as that in Guernsey and the UK to enable licences to be transferable. If the limit was fixed it would mean a renegotiation of the Jersey-UK Fisheries Management  Agreement  and  exclusion  of  Jersey  vessels  to  UK  waters  and  have  no consequence to amateur fishermen.

7

There  are  insufficient  levels  of  control  over  the licence system in the Island.  

As above.

8

The Panel has serious concerns about the official' representation  of  leisure  anglers  on  The  Marine Resources  Advisory  Panel  and  concludes  that  it was  not  reflective  of  a  significant  proportion  of leisure anglers' views.

The Marine Resources Panel representative for leisure anglers has since been changed. This Panel may consider requesting representatives' ballot their members on important issues in the future.

9

The  failure  to  consult  widely  led  to  the  Minister proposing defective Regulations. Wider consultation would have ensured a more inclusive process with all views taken into account, and a lot of Scrutiny members  and  Officers  time  spent  on  the  matter could have been saved.

The Marine Resources Panel dealt with this issue on at least three occasions over many months and received agreement in writing for the proposal from the angling representative. The regulations as lodged were not defective as they would have achieved the objectives set by the Marine Resources Panel.

10

No economic impact study into the effects of black fish sales on the commercial fishing industry has been undertaken.

The evidence submitted by the commercial industry was accepted at face value and in any event it is extremely difficult when trying to evaluate illegal sales to get a reliable response.

11

The  proposed  introduction  of  the  Bag  Limits, encompassing all leisure anglers, appeared to be a wholly disproportionate response to the problems faced  by  the authorities  in  policing  and  securing convictions under current legislation.

 Leisure anglers are regularly inspected for minimum sizes of their catch. It would take very little extra effort to count the number of fish in addition to assessing the size of each one.

 

12

The Panel supports the principle of Bag Limits for conservation  purposes  but  is  concerned  that  the limit of 20 would be an unnecessary tool to achieve that end in the case of ormers, as there are existing measures  in  place  under  current  legislation  that protect  ormers  from  commercial  levels  of exploitation.

20 is the same limit as in Brittany – harmonisation was being sought.

13

The extent to which unlicensed commercial fishing (and  sales  of  those  fish)  contributes  to  the commercial problems outlined as the key reason for proposing Bag Limits for lobster and bass, has not been established.

It has been established by the Scrutiny Panel see paragraph 19

14

Despite  claims  from  the  Minister  for  Economic Development  that  the  introduction  of  Bag  Limits would be good for tourism, no evidence was found to support this. Indeed, the Panel understands that there  has  already  been  a  negative  impact  on tourism resulting from the proposals for Bag Limits.

It was the angling Marine Resources Panel member that initially suggested bag limits were good for Tourism and evidence from other jurisdictions indicates that well regulated fisheries are attractive for Tourism.

The Scrutiny Panel should provide the evidence for the negative impact referred to.

15

There  is  a  general  lack  of data  around  Jersey's marine resources which is a barrier to achieving informed policy development.

Significant research and data collection is carried out and resources are generally directed towards the key commercial species.

16

It is currently illegal for a non licensed fisherman to fish commercially in Jersey waters, although selling his catch is currently only evidence of a possible illegal  act,  that  of  catching  those  fish.  Clearly, policing the catching of fish is more difficult than policing the sale of those fish.

This  has  been addressed  by  an addition  to  the  Sea  Fisheries  (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Amendment No.5)(Jersey) Regulations 2009.

17

Despite  reassurances  of  the  possibility  of  using more voluntary fisheries officers on an occasional basis, and that bag limits are almost self-policing as 90 per cent of boats at least that go to sea go from the  same  slipways  and  everybody  sees  what everybody else is landing, the Panel found that the capacity  of  the  Fisheries  and  Marine  Resources Section to police and enforce the Bag Limits  was limited.

Anglers are regularly inspected for minimum size – counting the catch is a very small extra piece of work. (see also paragraph 11)

 

18

The Fisheries and Marine Resources Section has very limited resources and is unable to effectively enforce  the  current  legislation,  which  has significantly narrower targeting, and could not be expected to police and enforce the Regulations that targeted almost 1800 leisure anglers.

We would welcome the evidence that Jersey is any worse than any other jurisdiction in regard to enforcing legislation. In fact we understand generally fishermen accept that we have better control than neighbouring jurisdictions.

19

There is an issue with some non-licensed fishermen selling their catches, but the Panel found this to be a practice carried out by only a very limited number, approximately 20, of the near 1800 leisure anglers in the Island, particularly on any significant level. Indeed,  this  was  openly  accepted  across  the stakeholder  groups,  including  the  Minister  for Economic Development. In addition, most of these are known to the authorities.

20 leisure fishermen selling wet fish on the open market can have a dramatic effect on the market place in a small community.

20

From  a  policing  aspect  putting  the  onus  on  a commercial purchaser to prove that they purchased their fish from a legitimate source would be simpler than  the  current  system  of  proving  illegal  sale. However,  this  is  just  one  small  aspect  of  the necessary policing.

We welcome this suggestion which will be examined.

21

The  tagging  of  fish  initiative  adopted  by  the commercial fishermen was sound in principle.

Agreed. This initiative was agreed by the Marine Resources Panel and paid for by States of Jersey funds.

Recommendations:

 

 

Recommendations

To

Accept/ Reject

Comments

Target date of action/ completion

1

The Assistant Minister should fully explain publicly the decision to withdraw P58/2009 Sea Fisheries (Bag Limits) (Jersey) Regulations 200- and confirm any  future  intention  to  bring  this  or  a  related proposition to the States.

 

Accept

Copies of correspondence attached (appendix A)

Done

2

The  responsible  Minister  should  develop conservation policy around spawning and minimum fish sizes.

 

Accept

Minimum  size  and  spawning  stock  biomass enhancement  measures  are  examined alongside other management measures.

Ongoing

3

The  Fisheries  and  Marine  Resources  Section should  be  provided  with  adequate  research resources to provide fuller information on Jersey's marine environment in order to better inform policy development.  

 

Accept

 

When resources become available.

4

More work should be  undertaken to assess the viability  of  amending  current  legislation  or introducing new legislation, other than Bag Limits, to  address  the  specific  issue  of  the  commercial sale of fish by non-licensed fishermen, and to find a solution which reconciles the interests of all fishing sectors and is feasible and effective.

This work should include:

  1. examination of different ways of placing a burden  of  proof  on  the  commercial purchaser  regarding  the  provenance  of their fish, including tagging systems
  2. a review of the licensing system
  3. monitoring and improving the understanding of fish stocks
  4. imported fish (wild and farmed)

Any future development of such proposals should include a full stakeholder consultation.

 

Accept

Accept

Reject Accept

Accept

  1. This  has  been  addressed  by  Sea Fisheries  (Miscellaneous  Provisions) (Amendment No.5)(Jersey) Regulations 2009
  2. Licences  only  apply  to  commercial fishermen.

d) This recommendation is not understood.

Done

N/A Ongoing

Conclusion:

c)  The Scrutiny panel conclusions are noted and the acceptance by the States of Jersey of the Sea Fisheries (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Amendment No.5)(Jersey) Regulations 2009 should address many of the areas of concern. The whole subject of fish conservation and exploitation is constantly under review.

Scrutiny Office

Connétable L Norman Economic Development Jubilee Wharf Esplanade

St Helier

JE1 1BB

Our Ref: 515/16

21st January 2010

Dear Connétable Norman

Economic Affairs Scrutiny Panel Bag Limits

You will recall that the Economic Affairs Scrutiny Panel was a significant way into its Review of P58/2009 Draft Sea Fisheries (Bag Limits) (Jersey) Regulations 200- when you took the decision in the States on 13th July 2009 to withdraw the proposition. As we move towards completing our report the Panel would like to take the opportunity to ask you to confirm why you took the decision to withdraw the proposed Regulations and what plans you have, if any, to bring back related proposals.

If you require any further information, I would ask that in the first instance you notify our Officer on the Review Tim Oldham (Tel: 441067 or t.oldham@gov.je)

Thank you for your assistance. Yours sincerely

Deputy M R Higgins

Chairman

Economic Affairs Scrutiny Panel

Scrutiny Office | States Greffe | Morier House | St Helier | Jersey | JE1 1DD Tel: 01534 441080 | Fax: 01534 441077 | email: scrutiny@gov.je

 

Scrutiny O ffice

Connêtable L Norman Economic Development Jubilee Wharf Esplanade

St Helier

JE1 1BB

Our Ref: 515/16

24th February 2010

Dear Connêtable Norman

Economic Affairs Scrutiny Panel

Bag Limits

Thank you for letter dated 26th January 2010, in which you informed us that you don't intend to bring Bag Limits proposals forward in the foreseeable future. You also stated that States approval of Draft Sea Fisheries (Miscellaneous Provisions) Amendment No. 5 (Jersey) Regulations resulted in more of a level playing field than previously for our professional and licensed fishermen, compared with their counterparts elsewhere in Europe.

For our understanding please could you:

Explain exactly how the approval of Draft Sea Fisheries (Miscellaneous Provisions) Amendment No. 5 (Jersey) Regulations created more of a level playing field? Explain why the aforementioned Regulations and P58/2009 Draft Sea Fisheries (Bag Limits) (Jersey) Regulations Bag Limits were both brought forward if one set was apparently sufficient? Tell us when and where the support of the Angling Association was expressed, the evidence for this support, and full details of the change of heart of this Association?

If you require any further information, I would ask that in the first instance you notify our Officer on the Review, Tim Oldham (Tel: 441067 or toldhameoov.ie)

Thank you for your assistance. Yours sincerely

Deputy M R Higgins

Chairman

Economic Affairs Scrutiny Panel

Scrutiny Office! States Greffe Morier House St Helier jJersey JJEI I DD

Tel: 01534 441080 1 Fax: 01534 441077 !email: scrutiny©gov.je

Planning and Environment Department

Environment Division

Howard Davis Farm,Route de la Trinite Trinity , Jersey,JE3 5JP

Tel: +44 (0)1534 441600

Fax: +44 (0)1534 441601

Deputy M R Higgins 15 March 2010 Chairman

Economic Affairs Scrutiny Panel

Scrutiny Office

Morier House

St Helier

JE1 1DD

Our ref: 6.1.32 Your ref: 515/16

Dear Deputy Higgins

RESPONSE TO SCRUTINY LETTER REF. BAG LIMITS DATED 24 FEBRUARY 2010

  • Explain exactly how the approval of the Draft Sea Fisheries (Miscellaneous Provisions) Amendment No 5 (Jersey) Regulations created more of a level playing field?

The Sea Fisheries (Licensing of Fishing Boats) (Jersey) Regulations 2003 created an offence of fishing in the territorial sea without a licence. Fishing for pleasure was exempted. Those regulations did not create any offences (other than the normal aiding and abetting) in respect of selling fish, landing fish for commercial purposes from a fishing boat, buying fish caught from an unlicensed boat etc. In consequence they allowed fishermen to catch fish from an unlicensed vessel outside the territorial sea and then to land and sell those fish in Jersey. In order to prove an offence of fishing without a licence, it was necessary to prove that fish caught from an unlicensed vessel were caught in the territorial sea and were then used for purposes other than pleasure.

Fishing licences can cost a significant amount of money and yet fishermen could quite legitimately catch fish outside the territorial sea and sell them without a licence. This potentially allowed them to sell the fish at a lower cost and to operate with significantly lower operating costs than a licensed commercial fisherman.

The Sea Fisheries (Miscellaneous Provisions) Amendment No 5 (Jersey) Regulations effectively close this loophole:

(1) No person shall sell any sea fish or, with the intention of selling them, process, keep or carry any sea fish, that :

  1. have been landed in Jersey having not previously been landed elsewhere: and
  2. the person knows, or ought reasonably to suspect, have been caught by,

or landed or transhipped from, an unlicensed fishing boat.

In effect, if fish are landed into the Island directly from a fishing boat, then they cannot be sold, kept or processed with the intention of selling them, unless the fishing boat is licensed either in Jersey or another jurisdiction.

This legislation is more readily enforceable than the Sea Fisheries (Licensing of Fishing Boats) (Jersey) Regulations 2003 in that it is not necessary to prove that the fish being sold were caught in the Jersey territorial sea.

  • Explain why the aforementioned Regulations and P58/2009 Draft Sea Fisheries (Bag Limits) (Jersey) Regulations were both brought forward if one set was apparently sufficient?

The proposed Bag Limits regulations had two primary objectives, to better protect primarily the ormer stocks and to a degree the bass and lobster stocks and to assist in assuring that boat fishermen selling lobsters or bass are licensed.

In terms of better protecting the ormer stock, the Sea Fisheries (Miscellaneous Provisions) Amendment No 5 (Jersey) Regulations have no impact and therefore no overlap with the proposed Bag Limits regulations.

In respect of lobster and bass, for the reasons stated above the objectives are partially met by the Sea Fisheries (Miscellaneous Provisions) Amendment No 5 (Jersey) Regulations. The Bag Limit regulations proposal did however go much further, in that they removed the need for an enforcement officer to prove the sale of lobsters and bass. In effect, if a fisherman in an unlicensed boat, a person in a vehicle or a merchant had in their possession more lobsters than the bag limit, then unless they could prove that the shellfish came from a licensed boat, they were in breach of the regulation. This removed the need for surveillance to ensure that fish were first landed from a boat and then used for purposes other than pleasure and would save officer time and potential intrusion into the private life of members of the public.

  • Tell us when and where the support of the Angling Association was expressed, the evidence for this support, and full details of the change of heart of this association?

In respect of support for the measure, the following evidence is recorded:

(It is understood that minutes of the Fisheries and Marine resources panel have already been forwarded to you.)

35th Meeting 17 May 2006 "name deleted" representing Jersey Recreational Fishermen's Association (JRFA) present. Minute 2.15. The JRFA now supported the introduction of a bag limit for the species (bass).

36th Meeting 19 July 2006 "name deleted" representing Jersey Recreational Fishermen's Association (JRFA) present. Minute 8.1. A figure of 5 bass per person was agreed. This measure would apply to recreational fishermen.

"name deleted" e-mail of 27 September apologising for absence from 37th Meeting. "we favour a 5 bass bag limit".

38th Meeting 12 December 2006. "name deleted" representing Jersey Federation of Anglers present. Minute 4.5. Although the majority of anglers would support the introduction of bag limits the representative for angling did foresee certain objections to the legislation being raised particularly from those who saw the measure as a denial of a source of income. Shore angling which did not at present require a licence for fish to be sold would be affected by this legislation.

In respect of the apparent change of heart, this view was not represented until the Scrutiny process commenced and the only information received is that which was submitted to scrutiny or presented by the media.

Yours sincerely

Constable Len Norman

Assistant Minister

Economic Development Department