States Minutes 8th December 1981

THE STATES assembled on Tuesday, 8th  December,  1981  at  10.15 a.m. under  the  Presidency  of  the   Bailiff , Sir Frank Ereaut.

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All members were present. _____

Prayers. _____

Subordinate legislation.

The following enactment was laid before the States, namely –

Motor  Vehicles  (Construction  and  Use)  (Amendment No. 13) (Jersey) Order, 1981. R & O – 7002.

Statistical Digest.

The Finance and Economics Committee by Act dated 23rd November, 1981, presented to the States a Statistical Digest.

THE STATES ordered that the said Digest be printed and distributed.

Contingency vote of credit – Defence Committee.

THE STATES noted an Act of the Finance and Economics Committee dated 2nd December, 1981 informing the House that it was making available the sum of £60,000 out of its contingencies vote of credit to enable that Committee to appoint six additional Officers to the Police Force.

Matters noted – land transactions.

THE STATES noted an Act of the Finance and Economics Committee dated 2nd December, 1981 showing that in pursuance of  Standing  Orders  relating  to  certain  transactions  in  land,  the Committee had approved –

293  [ Price : £1.00.]

1. as recommended by the Education Committee, the renewal of the lease from the Trustees of Aquila Road Methodist Church Trust of No. 28, Ralegh Avenue, St. Helier , for a further period of one year, commencing 1st August, 1981, at an annual rent of £2,500, for use as teachers' accommodation;
2. as recommended by the Harbours and Airport Committee, the leasing to the Air Training Corps No. 2498 (Island of Jersey) Squadron of Garrison House and the associated land at Mont à la Brune, St. Peter , for a term of nine years commencing 1st January, 1982, at an annual rent of £800, subject to the Committee's right to give nine months' notice at any time during the nine year term;
3. as recommended by the Public Health Committee, the granting to Incline Limited and to Mr. Derek Michael Harley and Mrs. Margery Louise Harley, née Hutchinson, of the following rights in respect of properties erected on part of the property Sandown', St. Aubin's Road, St. Helier , for a consideration of £1,000 plus legal fees and on the condition that the portion of the road alongside the properties was surfaced with suitable tarmac, namely –

1. a vehicular right of way at all times and for all purposes to go to and from St. Aubin's Road over part of the road leading to the rear entrance of Overdale Hospital, on condition that a proportionate contribution towards the maintenance and upkeep of the road was made; it being understood that the right of way would not include any right to park on any part of the road; (as shown on Drawing No. 1023/10);
2. the right to connect to drains, sewer and services in the said private road, on condition that it was reinstated as and when connexions took place and the payment of a just proportion towards the maintenance of the said drains, sewer, etc.

Matters lodged.

The following subjects were lodged "au Greffe" –

1. Employment of Disabled People. P.144/81. Presented by the Social Security Committee.
2. Draft Milk (Sale to Special Classes) (Amendment) (Jersey) Regulations, 198 . P.145/81.

Presented by the Social Security Committee.

Finance Centre Activities.

THE STATES acceded to the request of Senator Richard Joseph Shenton that consideration of the Proposition regarding Finance Centre Activities (P.126/81 – lodged on 3rd November, 1981) be deferred from the present Sitting.

Queen's Valley. Compensation – Madame Travert. Question and Answer.

Deputy Arthur Bertram Carter of Grouville asked Deputy Donald George Filleul of St. Helier , President of the Public Works Committee, the following questions –

"1. What compensation is likely to be offered to Madame

Travert, the present occupier of the farm in Queen's Valley, in the event of the valley ever being flooded?

2.  What alternative site has the Waterworks Company been able to offer her?"

The President of the Public Works Committee replied as follows –

"1. As it is only three weeks since the States confirmed their

decision to allow the Jersey New Waterworks Company Limited to build a reservoir in Queen's Valley it is surely premature to enquire what arrangements are to be made to alleviate the distress caused thereby to Mrs. Travert who must now have been gravely unsettled about her future domicile ever since 1975.

The question of compensation has not yet been discussed either with Mrs. Travert or her legal adviser and the basis on which this should be considered is not yet clear. It will surely depend to some extent on the eventual outcome of the accommodation problem posed in question 2.

2.  The House will be aware that Mrs. Travert occupies Crown property in respect of which she holds no lease, but from which no-one particularly the Company, would wish to see her expelled without the offer of suitable alternative accommodation, preferably equally income- productive.

The Company has assured the President of the Public Works Committee of its desire to find a sympathetic and acceptable solution to this very deeply-felt problem and has also noted the fact that in the early planning stages a suitable property had been found and earmarked for Mrs. Travert; the ensuing delays have robbed the Company of this opportunity and it is actively seeking a solution compatible with the precise requirements made know to them by Mrs. Travert's solicitor.

The House is reminded that the Public Works Committee has limited powers in this matter and whilst it is as concerned as the Members that justice should be done for the claims of all those involved it cannot be a party to the financial aspects of the land purchases, its authority is limited to assuring itself that proper negotiations have taken place in the event of Compulsory Purchase powers being requested by the Company."

Jersey New Waterworks Company Limited – financing of new resource. Question and answer.

Senator Jane Patricia Sandeman asked Senator Ralph Vibert , President of the Finance and Economics Committee, the following question –

"The final paragraph of the Jersey new Waterworks Company report dated June, 1981 reads as follows –

It must be grasped by all interested parties that the decision to develop any new water resource cannot be divorced from the problems of financing the development and the consequences of higher water charges. The acceptance of increased charges, environmental change and the control of demand (whether by limiting the number of consumers or by discouraging consumption) is a political issue – The Company needs to be informed that the consequences in the terms of higher water charges and a higher level of financing are accepted by and are acceptable to the States for it to act with confidence in developing a new resource and incurring fresh financial burdens.'

Will the President say what information and assurances have been given by the Finance and Economics Committee to the Jersey New Waterworks Company concerning "higher water charges and a higher level of financing' to enable the Company to develop a new resource with confidence."

The President of the Finance and Economics Committee replied as follows –

"I have not regarded the point raised in the paragraph quoted from the Report of the Jersey New Waterworks Company as being addressed to the Finance and Economics Committee but to the States as a whole. The question was not referred to my Committee by the States, nor was its views requested before or during the debate by any individual member, including Senator Sandeman.

The fact that the development would ultimately be financed by higher water charges was one of the factors considered and argued at length during the debate and in my view the Assembly has given the Company the information sought by its decision that the development should proceed."

J Category housing permits. Questions and answers.

Senator Richard Joseph Shenton asked Senator John Le Marquand, President of the Housing Committee, the following questions –

"1. Would the President inform the House as to the number

of J Category housing permits issued in the last twelve months.

2. Would the President inform the House as to the occupations for which J Category permits were issued.
3. Is the President aware that bank employees are still being brought into the Island for positions which could well be filled by locally qualified staff?
4. Would the President inform the House of the number of properties at present owned by the major clearing banks in the Island."

The President of the Housing Committee replied as follows –

"1. Housing Law statistics are compiled on a calendar year

basis. The following figures cover the period from 1st January, 1981 to 27th November, 1981. During that period the Committee issued 63 consents to lease and 5 consents to purchase in respect of first-time applicants on grounds of essential employment.

2. The 63 leasehold consents can be analysed as follows –

21 medical staff

11 teachers

11 finance sector

1 airline employee 3 civil servants

16 miscellaneous

The 5 consents to purchase can be analysed as follows –

2 finance sector 1 medical staff

1 electronics

3. Before  granting  essential  employment  status  to any expatriate bank employee, the Committee satisfies itself that  there  is not  a  local  person  available  with  the qualifications and experience to do the jobin question. The Committee at present has no knowledge of expatriate employees in respect of whom a housing consent is not required.  However,  the  Committee  has  received complaints  that  some  banks  are  employing  expatriate staff injobs which could be done by local residents. The Committee has, therefore, in conjunction with the Policy Advisory  Committee,  asked  the  Economic  Adviser  to investigate the allegations and to report back with his findings.
4. The properties owned by the major clearing banks are as follows –

Hostels  Dwellings (incl.

flats)

Lloyd's Bank Ltd.  5  (66)  6 National Westminster Bank Ltd.  6  (44)  16 Midland Bank Ltd.  5  (54)  11 Barclay's Bank Ltd.  5  (32)  17

The  dwellings  and  flats  can  only  be  occupied  by approved essential employees. Non-residentially qualified staff can live in the hostel accommodation."

Franchise Law – right to vote. Question and answer.

Deputy  Hendricus  Adolphus  Vandervliet  of   St. Lawrence asked  Senator  Ralph   Vibert ,  President  of  the  Legislation Committee, the following question –

"There are amongst the population of the Island residents who were brought here by their parents as minors from foreign lands and who have been resident here since then and have married local electors. Is it possible that legislation might be enacted which would give these residents of long standing a right to be enfranchised?"

The President of the Legislation Committee replied as follows –

"The right to vote in elections has always been restricted to British Subjects and I would be surprised if a similar position did not apply to most countries as it certainly does in all EEC countries, or at least it did until 1979 when the matter was last considered by the Legislation Committee.

The ground for exclusion presumably is that one should not be involved in the political affairs of one country if one's allegiance is to another. There is a similar bar in respect of membership of this House.

In answer, however, to the specific question it would be possible to change this position by legislation, as it would be possible  to  do  almost anything else. The legislation would require both the approval of the States and Royal Sanction. It could perhaps be thought that the status of aliens should be the same throughout the British Isles. It could be, on the other hand, that if and as the Common Market moves into a closer community, the whole question of nationality within Europe could be affected.

Insofar as the particular persons mentioned are concerned, that is men and women who have been here from infancy and some of whom are married to British subjects, there should be no difficulty whatsoever in their becoming full British subjects by naturalization. Those to whom the Deputy refers, have presumably decided for one reason or another that they prefer to remain citizens of their native country.

It is usual after triennial elections for the Legislation Committee to reconsider electoral procedure generally and I would expect the new Committee to bear this point in mind."

Defence expenditure. Statement.

The President of the Finance and Economics Committee made a statement in the following terms –

"During the budget debate I obtained information on U.K. Defence expenditure which suggested that the cost per head of population was around £100. I now find that this figure related only to the cost of maintaining the active forces and was for 1980/81.

The total expenditure for which the Ministry of Defence is  responsible,  which  includes  research  and  development costs,  the  cost  of civilian staff, the cost of building work, production, repairs and associated facilities in the U.K., and the  cost  of  war  and  contingency  stocks  etc.,  now  totals £12,270 million  for  1981-82  or  about  £220  per  head  of population.  Pro-rata  this  would  represent  a  cost  of  nearly £17 million for Jersey."

Supplementary and Additional Votes of Credit.

THE STATES considered Acts of the Finance and Economics Committee  dated  2nd  December,  1981  presenting  Acts  of  the undermentioned Committees and, acceded to the requests contained therein,  granted  to  the  said  Committees  supplementary  (S)  and additional  (A)  votes  of  credit  out  of  the  General  Reserve  as follows –

(C) denotes Capital vote of credit.

S  A

£ £

Finance and Economics Committee

Bailiff 's Chambers

0301  Staff  6,500 Impôts Department

0361  Staff  23,000

Viscount's Department

0331  Staff  5,000 0332  Premises  2,800 0334  Transport  700 0337  Désastres – Investigation expenses  26,000

carried forward  64,000

S  A

£ £

Finance and Economics Committee cont'd.

  brought forward  64,000 Treasury Department

0412  Premises  22,000

Economic Adviser's and Commercial

Relations Departments

0425  Establishment  4,000 Miscellaneous

0606  Sundries  4,400

Establishment of H.E. the Lieutenant

Governor

0701  Staff  12,000 Total Request  106,400

Defence Committee

Motor Traffic Office

1121  Staff  700 1123  Supplies and Services  1,000 Total Request  1,700

Public Works Committee

Car Parks

2032  Premises  10,500 2033  Supplies and Services  5,500

Public Buildings

2081  Staff  6,000 2082  Premises  12,000 2084  Transport  3,000

Public Gardens

2091  Staff  37,000 2098  Capital Servicing  50

Public Markets

2102  Premises  520 2103  Supplies and Services  100 2105  Establishment   100 carried forward  74,770

S  A

£ £

Public Works Committee cont'd.

  brought forward  74,770

Weights and Measures

2301  Staff  185 2303  Supplies and Services  100 2304  Transport  175 2305  Establishment   200 Total Request  75,430

Education Committee

Primary Schools N.F.P.

2501  Teaching Staff  368,000 2502  Non Teaching Staff  16,000

Secondary Schools N.F.P.

2601  Teaching Staff  445,000 2602  Non Teaching Staff  15,500 2604  Fuel and Services  21,000

Victoria College

2611  Teaching Staff  126,000 2612  Non Teaching Staff  2,800 2614  Fuel and Services  6,000 2618  Other Expenses  800

Victoria College Boarding House

2624  Fuel and Services  5,000

Jersey College for Girls

2631  Teaching Staff  99,000

2632  Non Teaching Staff  2,500

2634  Fuel and Services  10,000 Technical and Vocational Education

2701  Teaching Staff  150,000

Special Education

2801  Teaching Staff  63,000 2802  Non Teaching Staff  15,000 2804  Fuel and Services   7,000

carried forward  1,342,600

S A

£ £

Education Committee cont'd.

brought forward

Handicapped Children

2810 Handicapped Children

Residential School

2832 Staff

2834 Fuel and Services

Scholarships and Grants

2854 Education Allowances 2856 Grants to Students

Haut de la Garenne

2912 Staff

Children Boarded Out

2930 Children Boarded Out

Other Services, Facilities and Expenses 3060 Transport of School-Children

Administration 3152 Staff

Advisory Services

3171 Staff

Youth Service

3182 Staff

C0576 Highlands College –

Workshop Buildings C0951 Mont à l'Abbé –

Minor Improvements

Total Request

Public Health Committee Administration

3200 Staff

Grants

3256 Sundry Grants

carried forward

1,342,600 18,000

11,500 3,700

13,000 225,000

25,000 2,000 12,000 14,000

28,000

13,500 26,000(C)

3,000(C) 1,747,300

2,000

5,000 7,000

S  A

£ £

Public Health Committee cont'd.

  brought forward  7,000

Health and Social Services

3263  Immunisation and Health

Education  4,000

3267  International Year of the

Disabled  500

General Hospital

3403  Supplies and Services 3405  Establishment

St. Savour's Hospital

3438  Capital Servicing

Overdale Hospital

3448  Capital Servicing

Ambulance and Transport Station

3468  Capital Servicing

C0632   St. Saviour 's Hospital –

Upgrading of Main

Hospital

C0633   St. Saviour 's Hospital –

Modification to the

"Villa"

C0637   St. Saviour 's Hospital –

Building and Equipment –

30 Bed Unit for the

severely sub-normal

C0642  Central Sterile Supply

Department

C0652  General Hospital –

Modifications

C0655  Maternity Hospital – Upgrade

Theatre and Clinics

Total Request: 173,900

Resources Recovery Board

C0418  Reconstruction and Replacement

of Sewers

C0452  Sewer Extensions

carried forward

47,300 19,000

14,100

8,300

3,700 25,000(C)

5,000(C)

15,000(C) 15,000(C) 5,000(C)

5,000(C) 173,400  500

280,200(C) 186,500(C) 446,700

S  A

£ £

Resources Recovery Board cont'd.

  brought forward  466,700

C0456  Development of High Voltage

Power Distribution

Systems   22,000(C)

Total Request  488,700

Etat Civil Committee

4706  1981 Census Expenses  5,000 Total Request  5,000

Social Security Committee

Services Related to Employment

4821  Employment Exchange  21,200 4822  Safeguarding of Workers   5,800 27,000

Cottage Homes Committee

4902  Premises  3,200 Total Request  3,200

Island Development Committee

5211  Rue des Pres Trading Estate –

Phases I and II  10,000 Total Request  10,000

Elizabeth House Committee

5301  Staff  300 5302  Premises  200 Total Request  500

Fort Regent Development Committee

General Overheads

5713  Supplies and Services  2,000 carried forward  2,000

S  A

£ £

Fort Regent Development Committee cont'd.

  brought forward  2,000

Swimming Pool and Gloucester Hall

5722  Premises  7,000 5723  Supplies and Services  2,000

Administration

5735  Establishment  3,000 Total Request  14,000

Harbours and Airport Committee

1608A  Interest on Repayable

Advances  97,000 1608B  Capital Repayments  87,000 C0280  Installation of VOR/DME

Air Traffic Control

Equipment  35,000(C) C0225  Port of St. Helier –

Yacht Marina  60,000(C) C1405  La Collette Retaining

Wall  25,000(C) Total Request  304,000

Postal Committee

6100  Operating Expenses  30,000 Total Request  30,000

The  total  requests  granted  for  the  December  Supply  Day amounted to £2,987,130.

Bequest of Mrs. N.M. Brockhurst – acceptance.

THE  STATES,  adopting  a  Proposition  of  the  Finance  and Economics Committee, accepted the bequest of the late Mrs. Nina Madeleine Brockhurst, née Pirouet, of the residuary funds of her personal Estate to be held by the Treasurer of the States on behalf of the States and to be used either for bungalow or cottage home dwellings  (not  high  rise)  for  aged  married  couples,  preference being given to those of Jersey birth or origin, or for the treatment of the  sick  and  suffering  at  the  General  Hospital,  or  at  Overdale Hospital, or generally in any other way in providing homes for the aged.

Cheval Roc Hotel, Bonne Nuit, St. John – retaining wall. Petition.

THE STATES rejected a Proposition of Deputy Alfred Durell Le Brocq of St. John that the prayer of a Petition of Mr. Wace Frederick Philo and others be granted, that because of the need for a retaining wall beneath the Cheval Roc Hotel, Bonne Nuit, St. John , due to the collapse of the cliff face, the States should either –

1. undertake the construction of the said retaining wall; or
2. grant financial assistance either in the form of an interest free loan or a contribution towards the cost thereof.

Members present voted for paragraph (a) as follows –

"Pour" (3)

Connétable

St. John .

Deputies

St. John , O'Connor(C).

"Contre" (43)

Senators

Vibert , Huelin, Shenton, Jeune , Averty, Binnington, Riley, Sandeman, Horsfall, Ellis.

Connétable s

St. Peter , St. Ouen , St. Clement , St. Helier , St. Mary , Grouville , St. Saviour , St. Brelade , St. Lawrence , St. Martin .

Deputies

Mourant(H), Luce (B), St. Mary , St. Ouen , Morel (S), Grouville , Farley(H), Quenault(B), Troy (S), Baal(H), Le Gallais(S), Roche(S), Le Brocq(H), Dupré(H), Le Quesne(S), Trinity , St. Martin , Filleul(H), Vandervliet(L), Le Feuvre(L), St. Peter , Rothwell(H), Le Main(H).

Members present voted for the first part of paragraph (b) (to grant financial assistance either in the form of an interest free loan) as follows –

"Pour" (5)

Connétable

St. John .

Deputies

St. John , Grouville , Baal(H), O'Connor(C).

"Contre" (41)

Senators

Vibert , Huelin, Shenton, Jeune , Averty, Binnington, Riley, Sandeman, Horsfall, Ellis.

Connétable s

St. Peter , St. Ouen , St. Clement , St. Helier , St. Mary , Grouville , St. Saviour , St. Brelade , St. Lawrence , St. Martin .

Deputies

Mourant(H), Luce (B), St. Mary , St. Ouen , Morel (S), Grouville , Farley(H), Quenault(B), Troy (S), Baal(H), Le Gallais(S), Roche(S), Le Brocq(H), Dupré(H), Le Quesne(S), Trinity , St. Martin , Filleul(H), Vandervliet(L), Le Feuvre(L), St. Peter , Rothwell(H), Le Main(H).

Members present voted for the second part of paragraph (b) (to grant financial assistance either in the form of . a contribution towards the cost thereof) as follows –

"Pour" (21)

Senators

Huelin, Shenton, Jeune , Horsfall.

Connétable s

St. Peter , Grouville , St. John , St. Martin .

Deputies

Mourant(H), St. Ouen , St. John , Grouville , Farley(H), Quenault(B), Troy (S), Baal(H), Filleul(H), Vandervliet(L), Rothwell(H), Le Main(H), O'Connor(C).

"Contre" (25)

Senators

Vibert , Averty, Binnington, Riley, Sandeman, Ellis.

Connétable s

St. Ouen , St. Clement , St. Helier , St. Mary , St. Saviour , St. Brelade , St. Lawrence .

Deputies

Luce (B), St. Mary , Morel (S), Le Gallais(S), Roche(S), Le Brocq(H), Dupré(H), Le Quesne(S), Trinity , St. Martin , Le Feuvre(L), St. Peter .

Island Planning (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Law, 1981.

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Island Planning (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Law, 1981.

La Marquanderie Hill: Footpath.

Deputy Enid Clare Quenault of St. Brelade having accepted an amendment to the proposition, that for the words "to approve" there should be substituted the words "to reconsider", the States requested the Island Development Committee to reconsider the re- alignment of La Marquanderie Hill footpath immediately to the north of La Marquanderie Inn to a position adjoining the road, as shown coloured blue on Drawing No. 27/8.

Members present voted as follows –

"Pour" (40)

Senators

Vibert , Le Marquand, Huelin, Jeune , Binnington, Riley, Sandeman, de Carteret, Ellis.

Connétable s

St. Peter , St. Ouen , St. Helier , St. Mary , Grouville , St. Saviour , St. John , St. Brelade , St. Lawrence , St. Martin .

Deputies

Mourant(H), Luce (B), St. Ouen , Morel (S), Le Maistre(H), St. John , Grouville , Farley(H), Quenault(B), Perkins(C), Troy (S), Baal(H), Roche(S), Dupré(H), Trinity , Filleul(H), Vandervliet(L), St. Peter , Rothwell(H), Le Main(H), O'Connor(C).

"Contre" (7)

Senators

Shenton, Horsfall.

Deputies

St. Mary , Le Gallais(S), Le Brocq(H), St. Martin , Le Feuvre(L).

Road Traffic (No. 22) (Jersey) Regulations, 1981.

THE STATES, in pursuance of the powers conferred on them by the Order in Council of the twenty-sixth day of December, 1881, and by Article 49 of the Road Traffic (Jersey) Law, 1956, as amended, made Regulations entitled the Road Traffic (No. 22) (Jersey) Regulations, 1981.

Lease of Airport Freight Bays to Air Jersey International Limited.

THE STATES, adopting a Proposition of the Harbours and Airport Committees –

1. approved the renewal of the lease to Air Jersey International Limited of Freight Bays Nos. 7 and 8 in the Freight Terminal Building, Jersey Airport, comprising 2,880 sq.ft. for a term of 3 years, commencing 1st January, 1982, at a rent of £6,048 a year representing a rate of £2.10 a square foot a year;
2. authorised the Greffier of the States to sign the necessary agreement with Air Jersey International Limited;

3. authorised the Treasurer of the States to receive the payments as they became due.

Exchange of letters regarding Trilateral Agreement on Social Security between the United Kingdom, Guernsey and Jersey.

THE STATES, adopting a Proposition of the Social Security Committee –

1. approved the draft exchange of letters amending the Trilateral Agreement on Social Security between the United Kingdom, Guernsey and Jersey; and
2. authorised the Greffier of the States to sign the appropriate letter on behalf of the Social Security Committee.

Beer Duty (Drawback) (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations, 1981.

THE STATES, by virtue and in exercise of the powers conferred on them by Article 4 of the "Loi (1937) sur la perception d'un impôt sur la bière", as amended, made Regulations entitled Beer Duty (Drawback) (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations, 1981.

Tobacco Duty (Drawback) (Amendment No. 5) (Jersey) Regulations, 1981.

THE STATES, by virtue and in the exercise of the powers conferred on them by Article 3 of the "Loi (1937) sur la perception d'un impôt sur le tabac", as amended, made Regulations entitled Tobacco Duty (Drawback) (Amendment No. 5) (Jersey) Regulations, 1981.

Gambling (Betting) (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Regulations, 1981.

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 3 of the Gambling (Jersey) Law, 1964, as amended, made Regulations entitled Gambling (Betting) (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Regulations, 1981.

Gambling (Licensing Provisions) (Amendment No. 5) (Jersey) Regulations, 1981.

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 3 of the Gambling (Jersey) Law, 1964, as amended, made Regulations entitled Gambling (Licensing Provisions) (Amendment No. 5) (Jersey) Regulations.

Gambling (Gaming and Lotteries) (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Regulations, 1981.

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 3 of the Gambling (Jersey) Law, 1964, as amended, made Regulations entitled Gambling (Gaming and Lotteries) (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Regulations, 1981.

Building Loans (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Amendment No. 16) (Jersey) Regulations, 1981.

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 15 of the Building Loans (Jersey) Law, 1950, as amended, made Regulations entitled Building Loans (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Amendment No. 16) (Jersey) Regulations, 1981.

Subsidised Interest Rate on monies borrowed by Growers: Revised Scheme.

THE STATES, adopting a Proposition of the Agriculture and Fisheries Committee approved a Scheme to provide growers with an interest subsidy on monies borrowed from the Clearing Banks for the purchase of items used directly in the production and packaging of produce in accordance with a list approved by the Agriculture and Fisheries Committee, the level of subsidy to be the difference between 6.5 per cent and the individual base lending rate of the Clearing Bank, and the subsidy to apply in respect of interest on borrowings accrued during the period 1st December 1981 to 31st October 1982.

Sale of 4, Verulam Villas, St. Helier .

THE STATES, adopting a Proposition of the Fort Regent Development Committee –

1. approved the sale by the Public of the Island to Terrion Investments Limited of No. 4 Verulam Villas, Clairvale Road, St. Helier , for a consideration of £45,000;
2. authorised the Attorney General and the Greffier of the States to pass the necessary contract in the matter;
3. authorised the Treasurer of the States to receive the said sum of £45,000 for the credit of the Capital Vote D1205.

Members present voted as follows –

"Pour" (36)

Senators

Vibert , Le Marquand, Huelin, Jeune , Averty, Binnington, Riley, Horsfall.

Connétable s

St. Peter , St. Ouen , Grouville , St. Saviour , St. John , St. Lawrence , St. Martin .

Deputies

Mourant(H), St. Mary , Morel (S), Le Maistre(H), St. John , Grouville , Farley(H), Quenault(B), Perkins(C), Troy (S), Le Gallais(S), Roche(S), Dupré(H), Trinity , St. Martin , Vandervliet(L), Le Feuvre(L), St. Peter , Rothwell(H), Le Main(H), O'Connor(C).

"Contre" (4)

Senators

Shenton, Sandeman.

Deputies

St. Ouen , Baal(H).

"Abstention" (1)

Deputy

Luce (B).

Student Grants. Statement.

The President of the Education Committee made a statement in the following terms –

"As the House knows discussions have continued with Her Majesty's Government during the past year over the cost of providing higher education in the United Kingdom for Jersey students.

At the last meeting held in the Home Office on Monday, 24th November I met together with representatives of the Isle of Man and Guernsey officials of the Department of Education and Science, the Treasury and the Home Office. Agreement was reached among those present at the meeting to recommend the following proposals to their respective governments. I have been awaiting a formal statement of the proposals from the Home Office through the Bailiff before bringing them to the House for consideration. However, I understand that the President of the Guernsey Education Council is making the details of the proposal known to the Guernsey States tomorrow in advance of their confirmation and I feel bound therefore to inform the members of this House.

The proposals are that in respect of each recognised Jersey student in Higher or Advanced Further Education (that is attending a University, Polytechnic or College of Higher Education) the States of Jersey will pay to Her Majesty's Government a sum equivalent to 2½ times the home tuition fee. This payment which will replace the annual payment in respect of Teacher Training will be payable in March of each year and will be phased in' with effect from March, 1982. The precise details of the payment requested have yet to be confirmed but I can say that the phasing in' will begin with a payment in respect of those students who began the University and other courses in September, 1981.

The amount to be paid to Her Majesty's Government will be reduced by the expenditure incurred locally on in-service and induction training of teachers. Jersey students will be treated in every respect as "home students" and given full parity with United Kingdom and European Community students. Until the proposals have been more precisely framed it is impossible to provide members with other than a broad estimate of the costs involved. It is possible that the payment required by Her Majesty's Government in March, 1982 will be in the order of £400,000. This amount will increase annually and by 1985/86 could amount to £900,000 or £1 million at current rates.

I repeat that these proposals have not yet been put formally by Her Majesty's Government to the Island and I have as yet received no indication of Her Majesty's Government's reaction. We were advised that the final ratification on behalf of Her Majesty's Government would have to be at Ministerial level and for that reason I must emphasise the preliminary nature of this statement. However, in the circumstances I have already referred to I felt that I owed it to members to provide them with as much information as I have at this stage. I shall bring the matter forward again when the positive proposals have been put forward on behalf of Her Majesty's Government."

Retiring Members.

The Bailiff conveyed the best wishes of the House to the six Members who would not be returning in the new Session and, on behalf of the Island, thanked them for their service.

THE STATES rose at 7.00 p.m.

E.J.M. POTTER, Greffier of the States.