States Assembly 12th December 1995

STATES MINUTES 1 2 th D e cember 1995

T HE STATES assembled on Tuesday,  12th December 1995 at 9.30 a.m. under t h e Presidency of the Bailiff ,

P hilip Martin Bailhache , Esquire

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His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor,

 General Sir Michael Wilkes, K.C.B., C.B.E, w a s p r e sent.

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All Members were present with the exception of -

E dwin Le Gresley Godel, Connétable of St. M ary - ill

M argaret Anne Le Geyt, Deputy of St.

S aviour - out of the Island.

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P r a y e rs

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Subordinate legislation tabled

The following enactments were laid before the States, namely -

 1 .  Amendment (No. 18) to the

T a r iff of Harbour and Light Dues. R & O 8895.

 2 .  Nursing Homes and Mental Nursing

H  o mes (General Provisions) (Amendment) ( J er sey) Order 1995. R & O 8896.

 3 .  Residential Homes (General

P r o visions) (Amendment) (Jersey) Order 1 9 9 5. R & O 8897.

 4 .  Weights and Measures (General

P r o visions) (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey)

O  rd er 1995. R & O 8898. Matters presented

The following matter was presented to the States -

1 4+ transfer procedure - R.C.28/95. P resented by the Education

C ommittee.

Matters noted - land transactions

THE STATES noted an Act of the Finance and Economics Committee dated 4th December 1995 showing that, in pursuance of Standing Orders relating to certain transactions in land, the Committee had approved -

 ( a) as recommended by the Public

S e r vices Committee, the acquisition

f ro m Dr. Frank Le Maistre, O.B.E.,

D  .L itt., of 4,032 square feet of land

i n F ield No. 1258, St. Ouen, for a

c o n sideration of £4,032, plus £1,000 f o r use as a temporary working area, w it h the Committee being responsible f o r the cost of all reasonable legal

e x p enses involved in the transaction;

 ( b) as recommended by the Housing

C o m mittee, the annulment of the lease t o D r. Jennifer Hayley and Dr. Paul

A  h luwalia of the property known as St. A  g atha, Archirondel, St. Martin, on the b a s is that the property would be

v a c ated by 30th July 1995.

Matters lodged

The following matters were lodged au Greffe'' -

 1 .  Draft Criminal Procedure

( C o nnétables and Centeniers) (Jersey) L a w 199 - P.180/95.

P r e sented by the Legislation

C o m mittee.

 2 .  Draft Anatomy and Human Tissue

( A m endment) (Jersey) Law 1995

( A p pointed Day) Act 199  - P.181/95.

P r e sented by the Health and S o c ial Services Committee.

3 . Projet de Loi (199 ) (Amendement N o . 12) sur l'Etat Civil - P.182/95. C o m ité de l'Etat Civil.

 4 .  Stopford Road/Gas Works gyratory r o a d scheme: purchase and sale of

l a nd - P.183/95.

P r e sented by the Planning and

E n v ironment Committee.

 5 .  Draft Disability Transport

A ll owance (Jersey) Law 199 (P.159/95): a m e ndments - P.184/95.

P r e sented by Senator S.

S y v ret.

Casa Melita, Green Street, St. Helier - use as a temporary car park - questions and answers (Tape No. 317)

Deputy Imogen Stephanie Nicholls of Grouville asked the Connétable of St. John, President of the Planning and Environment Committee, the following questions -

1.  W ould the President confirm that

th e P la nning and Environment

C o m m  ittee has approved an

ap p l i ca tion for a development of

th e si te formerly known as Casa

M e l it a ', Green Street, St. Helier

th a t i n cludes an underground car p ar k ?  

 2 .  Is the President aware that on 19th

J u ly 1995, an application was submitted

t o t he Planning and Environment

C o m mittee, to use the site as a

t e m porary car park pending the

c o m mencement of the main development?

 3 .  Is the President further aware that to d a te the applicant has received no

r e sp onse to his application?

 4 .  Does the President consider that five m  o nths is a reasonable time for the

C o m mittee to take to deal with an

a p p lication of this kind?''.

The President of the Planning and Environment

Committee replied as follows -

1.  I would confirm that the Planning

an d E n vironment Committee has

g ra n t e d development permission for th e re s idential development of

p ar t o f the Casa Melita site. This

in c l u ded an underground car park

to se r v e the flats.

H  o wever, in order to provide a

c o m prehensive reply to the Deputy 's

q u e stion and to provide this House with t h e background to the application for a t e m porary car park on the Casa Melita s it e , I will briefly set out the site's

p l an ning history -

O n 9th June 1993, the Committee granted p l an ning permission for -

th e d em olition of the outbuildings to C a s a Melita and the existing

g ar a g e ;

th e co n struction of an extension an d c o nversion of Casa Melita to fo r m o ffice space;

th e co n struction of 22 two-bedroom fl a ts .  

U  n derground car parking was shown for t h e flats. The consent represented a

p a c kage of land uses for the site.

P e r mission was given to the conversion a n d extension of Casa Melita as offices i n o rder to preserve the building and

o b t ain the planning gain of residential

d e v elopment on the remainder of the

s it e .

O  ff ices

O  n 30th November 1993, the Committee g r a nted development permission for the f o u ndations for the office extension

a n d on 10th May 1994, for the

c o n version of Casa Melita and the

c o n struction of the office block. The

D  ep artment's records show that work

c o m menced on the offices in April 1994 a n d was completed in October 1995.

F l a ts

O  n 3rd November 1993, the Committee g r a nted development permission for the 2 2 two-bedroom flats and underground p a r king.

W  o rk commenced on the construction of t h e 22 flats on 10th January 1994.

P i le s were sunk, the basement floor

c a s t and columns to carry the ground

f lo o r deck constructed in May 1994.

W  o rk at this stage ceased. No precise

d a te is available when actual work on

t h e site stopped.

O  th er applications

O  n 5th May 1995, my Committee refused, a s c ontrary to Island Plan policy, an

a p p lication to construct on the housing

s it e an office block and eight flats.

T h e letter that accompanied the

a p p lication explained that the

d e v eloper had been advised by estate

a g e nts that there was not a market for

t h e residential development under

c o n struction. An identical application

w  as refused on 13th October 1995. This

i s n ow the subject of a Royal Court

a p p eal.

A  s can be seen, this site has a complex

h i st ory. The Planning and Environment

C o m mittee is concerned that having

d e v eloped the office component of the

a p p roval the applicant is unprepared to

c o m plete the residential element of the

p a c kage. The Committee is contemplating t h at in the future when faced with

s im  ilar situations it will require the

r e si dential element to be completed in

a d v ance of the economically more

a t tr active office element.

 2 .  I am aware that the application for the t e m porary car park was received and

r e g istered by the Department on 21st

J u ly and accompanied by a letter from t h e applicant's agent dated 19th July

1 9 9 5.

I t is not correct to say that the use

o f t he site for a temporary car park

w as pending the commencement of the m ai n development'. As I have outlined i n m y reply to question 1, work on the c o n struction of the flats commenced

s o m e 18 months earlier on 10th January 1 9 9 4. By July of 1995 the Committee had a l re ady refused an application for

o f fi ces and eight flats and was aware

t h at the applicant was being advised

t h at the residential development was

n o t an economic proposition.

 3 .  I am aware that to date the applicant h a s not as yet had a decision on his

a p p lication for reasons I shall explain i n f urther detail in my reply to

q u e stion 4.

H  o wever, the applicant's agent has

b e e n contacted by the Department to

p r o vide information as part of the

p r o cess of consultation between the

P l a nning and Building Services and the P u b lic Services Departments. During A ugust, September and October there w  er e exchanges of letters between the

t h re e parties which sought to satisfy

t h e concerns of the Public Services

D  ep artment that using the site as a

c o m muter car park would cause

a d d itional problems of congestion in

t h e area. It would be assumed that as

p a r t of the normal client/agent

r e la tionship the client would be aware

o f t he exchanges which were taking

p l ac e.

 4 .  While I consider the time taken for

c o n sultation was acceptable due to the c o n cerns of the Public Services

D  ep artment a series of unavoidable

e v e nts have occurred which have

e x te nded the period of consideration

l o n ger than I would have liked.

A p eriod of 13 weeks elapsed between

t h e time the application was first

s u b mitted and it being placed on the

a g e nda of 26th October 1995, for the

d e te rmination of the Planning and

E n v ironment Committee. While at face v a lu e this may appear over-long to deal w  it h a proposal for a temporary car

p a r k, I am assured that this time was

n e c essary for the exchanges of

c o r respondences to satisfy the Public

S e r vices Department that a commuter car p a r k for 52 vehicles would not have any f u rt her impact on the traffic

c o n gestion in Green Street and

G  re nville Street.

W  h en discussing the application on 26th O  ct ober additional information was

r e q uired by the Committee and the

a p p lication was deferred for one week

t o 2 nd November 1995. Due to the nature

o f t he proposals, i.e. a temporary car

p a r k on the site of an unfinished

r e si dential development, the Committee

d e c ided it wished to visit the site and

t h e next available site visit was 23rd

N  o vember 1995. At the site visit the

a p p licant's agent was present to

p r o vide information to the Committee.

A  s there was not a quorum of members no d e c ision could be made and the matter

w  as placed on the agenda for 30th

N  o vember 1995.

I n d iscussing the application on 30th

N  o vember the Committee expressed great c o n cern that after granting planning

p e r mission and development permission f o r a residential development and

o f fi ce development only the offices had

b e e n completed and the residential

e l em ent had been left undeveloped. The C o m mittee was concerned that the

t e m porary car park would become a long- t e rm feature. The Committee decided to d e f er consideration of the application

a n d seek the opinion of the Attorney

G  en eral as to what power the Committee m  ig ht have to expedite the situation

w  it h regard to the uncompleted flats.

T h e applicant's agent was informed of t h is decision.

U  p on receipt of the reply of the

A  tt orney General the Committee will g i v e further consideration to the

m  at ter.''.

Les Quennevais School and the Jersey College for Girls - questions and answers (Tape No. 317)

Senator Richard Joseph Shenton asked Deputy Evelyn Mabel Pullin of St. Saviour, President of the Education Committee, the following questions -

1.  I s the President aware that st a te m  ents attributed to her

C o m m ittee recently regarding

Je r s e y College for Girls and Les Q u e n n evais School have caused co n c e r n to the parents of students at t en d i ng those schools?

 2 .  Would the President agree that there is a n e ed to reassure those parents about

t h e prospects for those schools and the s tu d ents who attend them?

 3 .  Would the President inform members of t h e date when building and related work a t L es Quennevais School will be

c o m pleted?''.

The President of the Education Committee replied as follows -

1.  I am well aware of and understand

th e co n cern being expressed by

p ar e n t s regarding Jersey College

fo r G  ir ls and Les Quennevais.

T h e Senator will no doubt appreciate

t h at any Committee taking over the

r e sp onsibility for the Education

S e r vice has a duty to the States to

e x a mine all proposed building projects

v e r y carefully. The Education Committee h a s done so in the case of both of

t h es e projects.

 2 .  The Education Committee has examined t h e proposal for the move of Jersey

C o l lege for Girls to Mont Millais,

e s p ecially have regard to the need to

p r o vide a school of four forms of entry

r a th er than three. The Committee has

a s s ured itself that it will be possible

t o a ccommodate the school at the Mont

M illais site and that this site affords

t h e best option in all the

c i rc umstances. It is proposed that the

m  o ve will proceed as soon as possible.

I n t he case of Les Quennevais School,

t h e proposal approved by the States for

t h e 1993 capital programme to undertake s tr u ctural repairs to the outside of

t h e buildings and roofs and to extend

t h e school by six classrooms is nearing

c o m pletion. The Education Committee, by t h e judicious use of resources and by

t h e application of additional funds

f ro m both its capital and its revenue b u d gets of nearly £500,000, has been a b le also to refurbish much of the

i n si de of the building. However, it has n o t been possible to bring all of the

i n si de of the school up to a new

s ta n dard and to complete external

l a nd scaping within the sums of money a v a ilable. To do so would cost a

f u rt her £700,000. I am in discussion

w  it h the President of the Finance and E c o nomics Committee as to whether

a d d itional sums may be made available t o u ndertake this work.

 3 .  The work approved by the States and

a u th orised by the Education Committee

f ro m its capital and revenue budgets

w  il l be completed by the end of January

1 9 9 6. Any further work will depend upon t h e ongoing discussion with the Finance

a n d Economics Committee.

L e s Quennevais C a p ital Sum

O v e r c la d ding 5 , 2 47,900

H e a ti n g ( balance) 4 2 ,402

  5 , 2 9 0 ,3 0 2

S h o rtfall  Internal works and equipment 1 ,0 5 4 , 091

ex t e r n a l work and landscape 19

8 ,0 0 0

T O T A L 1 ,2 5 2 , 0 91

L e ss ca p i ta l transfer

1 0 0 ,0 0 0  

R e v e n u e 4 4 3,991

  5 4 3 , 9 9 1

S h o rt f all 7 0 8 ,1 0 0  

Heating allowance for people in need - questions and answers (Tape No. 317)

Deputy Shirley Margaret Baudains of St. Helier asked the Connétable of St. Clement the following questions -

1.  W hat arrangements has the Comité

d es C o nnétables made for the

p ro v i s ion of the heating allowance

fo r p e o ple in need for the month

o f D e c ember?

 2 .  Is the Connétable able to say whether

p r o vision was made for the heating

a l lo wance to be paid for the month of

N  o vember? Was the allowance paid by all t h e parishes?''

The Connétable of St. Clement replied as follows -

1.  A rrangements are being made for

th e p ro vision of the heating

al l o w a nce for December. It is

o b v io u s that I cannot make an

an n o u n cement as to what it will be u n ti l a fter December and the

al l o w a nce for December will be

p ai d in January. As in the past,

if a n y o ne has problems with their h ea t in g bills will they please

h av e a word with their Constable

an d I a m sure they will do what is n ec e s s ary to help them.

 2 .  Provisions were made as usual for the

m  o nth of November. The allowance in

N o vember was £11 and that was because t h e weather was mild for the time of

y e a r. I am sure these allowances are

p a id by all the parishes.''

Change in Presidency

During the course of the statement made by the President of the Establishment Committee

the Bailiff retired from the Chamber and the Greffier of the States, Geoffrey Henry Charles Coppock, Esquire, took over the Presidency.

Manpower strategy - statement

The President of the Establishment Committee made a statement in the following terms -

  Last Tuesday, the President of the

 F inance and Economics Committee presented  a n excellent budget which showed that he

 a nd his Committee have achieved a

 s pectacular success in turning a projected

d eficit of over £100,000,000 into a modest

 s urplus. There is no room for complacency,

 h owever, as the position is still fragile

 a nd even a very small shortfall in tax

 r eceipts could push us back into a deficit

p osition.

T he improvement has been achieved

p rincipally by controlling overall States

r evenue expenditure more tightly than ever b efore so that it is only expected to rise

b y two per cent over the two years 1994- 1 996.

S adly, as I warned the States in the

S trategic Policy debate, the same is not

t rue of the pay bill, which although

c ontained in the pay year 1994/95, due to m y Committee's pay and voluntary early

r etirement/voluntary redundancy policies, t o an increase of only one per cent, is

n ow, following the completion of the 1996 c ash limits exercise, expected to rise by

a t least 3.4 per cent in the pay year

1 995/96.

T he problem is that while some Committees h ave essential services which, for fully

j ustified reasons, require additional staff

t o operate them successfully, effective

m achinery to achieve savings in non-

e ssential services still doesn't exist. As

a result, the outcome of the cash limits

e xercise is a requested net increase of 37

p osts.

T his is the complete opposite to the

o utcome we had expected when we drew up our t wo-year strategy in 1994. That strategy

w as aimed at controlling the States pay

b ill by a combination of a wage freeze in

t he first year followed by a REDUCTION of

p osts in the second year through the use of

v oluntary early retirements, voluntary

r edundancies, and the newly-introduced

r edeployment policy, to at least balance

o ut the wage increases agreed as part of

t he second phase of our two-year pay

p olicy.

B ased on the current budget forecasts it is n ot acceptable, in the view of my

C ommittee, to introduce another pay freeze i n the foreseeable future and, unless we

a re able to control the growth in numbers, t he States pay bill and the size of the

p ublic sector workforce will inevitably

b oth continue to grow. We have, therefore, t o accept that our strategy has, so far,

b een unsuccessful.

T he situation is further complicated by

t he completely unacceptable unavailability

o f timely, accurate and consistent

i nformation on both the numbers employed a nd the pay bill. In this respect an

i nvestigation into MIMS, the central

p ayroll and personnel computer system, has c learly shown that it is not up to the task

f or which it was designed, that it is

d ifficult to use, and not capable of

p roducing much of the required information. H ere too, despite serious cost

i mplications, the nettle has to be grasped.

A lthough this is a depressing and worrying

p icture requiring firm and decisive

m easures, it also represents an outstanding

o pportunity for improvement. With this

f irmly in mind my Committee has drawn up an e ntirely new five-point action plan aimed

a t addressing these long-standing issues

o nce and for all.

1 .  Current additional manpower requests

A  s stated above, my Committee, as a r e su lt of the 1996 cash limits

e x e rcise, has been presented with an a d d itional 37 requested posts.

W  e accept that simply to refuse them,

a s w e have the ability to do, would

a d v ersely affect a number of essential

s e rv ices such as Education, Customs,

a n d the Police. Refusal would also make i t im possible for the Financial

S e r vices Department to function

e f fe ctively, with potentially seriously

d a m aging consequences for the finance i n d ustry.

M  y Committee has, therefore, agreed

t h e requests for the staff required for

t h e Financial Services Department and

t h e Public Services Committee, who have a l re ady made compensatory savings, but h a s requested more information,

p a r ticularly their business plans, from

o t h er departments, following receipt of w  h ich it will make its decisions.

W  e will, in any case, in accord with

S t a tes policy, be seeking compensatory s a v ings although it is difficult to see

w  h ere these will come from in the

s h o rt term.

2 .  Future manpower requests

A  n y future request for additional

m an power, either as part of the annual c a s h limits exercise or otherwise, will n e e d -

( i) to have been identified in

th e C o mmittee's current business p la n w hich must clearly

d em  o n strate how the additional p o st ( s) relates to meeting the

o b je c ti ves set out in that plan;

( ii ) be supported by the results of an ex t e r n ally conducted service

re v i e w of the department's

ef f ic i e ncy and into whether it is es s e n ti al for it to continue to

o ff e r a ll the services it

cu r r e n tly provides;

( ii i)  be supported by compensatory m a n p o wer savings, either from the d ep a r t ment concerned, or from

e l se w here in the public service.

M  y Committee is determined that unless a C  ommittee can comply with these

r e q uirements, there can be no question

o f a n application for an additional

p o s t being allowed.

3 .  Service reviews

T h e States, for the past three years,

h a v e accepted the need, as proposed by

t h e Policy and Resources Committee and t h e Chief Adviser, for service reviews

to b e undertaken in all departments to

e s ta blish efficiency levels and to

d e f ine core and non-core services. To

d a te the programme has been

i n co nsistently applied and there is a

n e e d to control it and direct it more

e f fe ctively. My Committee has therefore d e c ided to take the initiative in this

v i ta lly important area.

A  t our instigation, a planning group

w  il l now be set up under the auspices

o f t he Policy and Resources Committee,

t he Finance and Economics Committee and t h e Establishment Committee to draw up

a n d be responsible for the service

r e v iew programme.

T h e group's remit will be to ensure

t h at a co-ordinated programme of

s e rv ice reviews is conducted into all

t h e services offered by all States

d e p artments. It will liaise with the

A  u dit Commission to ensure continuity, a n d to avoid unnecessary duplication.

A  lt hough service reviews cover all a s p ects of the services provided it is i n ev itable that the major impact will b e o n manpower levels in the public s e c tor.

W  e anticipate, as a result, being able

t o a gree new manpower targets with each S t a tes department.

4 .  Personnel function service review

A  s a first step in the above programme, a t t he suggestion of the Chief Officer

o f t he States Personnel Department, my C o m mittee is to commission consultants t o u ndertake an immediate review of the p e r sonnel function throughout the

S t a tes.

T h e function is currently undertaken,

i n a ddition to the States Personnel

D  ep artment, by numerous departments or i n d ividuals in other departments and

t h e purpose of the review will be to

e s ta blish whether the services offered

a r e those best suited to the needs of

t h e States and whether they are being

p rovided in the most efficient way.

5 .  Manpower and payroll information

A  s stated above the information

m y Committee and the States Personnel D ep artment requires to control manpower n u m bers and pay roll is not available

i n a timely, accurate or consistent

f o rm . It is impossible to exercise

c o n trol without the basic information

n e e ded to apply it and we will,

t h er efore, be appointing a consultant

t o a dvise us on all the information we

s h o uld be getting, how it should be

p r o vided and how it should be

p r e sented. The consultants will work

c l os ely with those appointed by the

A  u dit Commission to review the IT

D  ep artment and its plans for the future a n d it may well be appropriate to

c o m bine the two exercises into one

p r o ject.

T here will, inevitably be a substantial

c ost attached to my Committee's strategy b ut we are firmly of the view that it will r epresent an excellent investment which w ill result in much greater efficiency in t he public sector and savings of millions

o f £s in the future.

I n my Committee's view there will also be a n additional, hidden benefit to the Island

i n that if, as we believe it will, our

s trategy results in a permanent reduction

i n the number of posts available in the

p ublic sector more local people will become a vailable for jobs in the private sector

t hereby reducing the need for more

i mmigration.

L ast, but by no means least I want to

a ssure the States workforce that they

s hould not feel threatened by this

s trategy. My Committee remains committed to t he principle of doing all we can to avoid

c ompulsory redundancy and we firmly believe t he savings that will flow as a result of

o ur new initiative can, and will, be met by

a combination of realistic VER/VR packages, r edeployment and natural wastage. The vast m ajority of similar schemes, both in the

p ublic sector elsewhere and in the private

s ector, have successfully reached their

g oals in this way and we intend to emulate

t hem.

T hese are ambitious objectives but they

a re objectives against which my Committee i s happy to be judged. We will, however,

r equire the active support and co-operation

o f all States Committees and their

d epartments. We are confident we will

r eceive it and we look forward to working c losely with them all in driving this

e ssential project forward to a successful

c onclusion.

T he wage bill for 1996 will rise by

s omething like seven per cent, something w hich we can ill afford.''

Change in Presidency

The Bailiff resumed the Presidency of the States during the debate on the St. Helier Waterfront Development prior to the luncheon adjournment.

St. Helier Waterfront Development - P.156/95 and P.175/95

THE STATES, referring to their Act dated 10th November 1992 in which they approved Map No. 3- 92 as the development plan for the St. Helier Waterfront area, subject to the States

confirming the site of the new housing to the

west of Albert and the marina at Havre des Pas, commenced consideration of a proposition of the Policy and Resources Committee and adopted sub- paragraph (i).

Members present voted as follows -

P o u r'' (42) Senators

S henton, Jeune , Horsfall, Rothwell, Le

M ain, Le Maistre, Stein, Chinn, Bailhache , T omes.

Connétable s

S t. Clement, St. Lawrence, St. Brelade , St. P eter, Grouville , St. Helier , St. Saviour,

T rinity, St. Martin, St. Ouen , St. John.

Deputies

R umboll(H), Wavell(S), Norman(C), St. P eter, H. Baudains(C), Le Sueur(H), St.

O uen, Coutanche(L), Huelin(B), St. Mary, L e Fondré(L), Walker (H), Crespel(H),

P ullin(S), Trinity , Carter(H), Johns(H),

M atthews(B), Routier(H), St. Martin, St. J ohn.

C o n tre'' (8) Senators

 Q uérée, Syvret. Deputies

S . Baudains(H), Duhamel(S), Dorey(H), L ayzell(B), Breckon(S), Grouville .

THE STATES, having accepted an amendment of Robert Lester Le Brocq, Connétable of St. Helier, that in sub-paragraph (ii)(a) for the words from Weighbridge,'' to the end of the sub-paragraph there should be substituted the following words -

  the transfer of the bus station to the

  Island' site, the development of the

 r emainder of the Island' site and the area  a round the existing bus station shown on  d rawing No. 484/2;''

adopted sub-paragraph (ii), as amended. Sub-paragraphs (iii) and (iv) were adopted. THE STATES thereupon -

 ( i) approved the establishment of the

W  a terfront Enterprise Board as a

s e p arate legal entity in accordance

w  it h the Memorandum and Articles of

A  ss ociation set out in the Appendix to

t h e report of the Policy and Resources

C o m mittee, dated 1st November 1995, and a g r eed to appoint the Waterfront

E n t erprise Board Limited as a

d e v elopment agency of the States for an

i n it ial ten year period;

( ii) r equested the Planning and E n v ir o nment Committee -

( a ) to bring to the States for

ap p r o v al, as soon as possible,

sp e c i fi c proposals for the early

d ev e l o pment of the Weighbridge, th e tr a nsfer of the bus station to

th e I sl and' site, the development

o f th e remainder of the Island'

si te a n d the area around the

ex i s ti n g bus station shown on

d ra w  in g No. 484/2;

( b ) to consider the land use proposals fo r t h e remainder of the St.

H e li e r Waterfront area shown on

m a p N o. 3-92;

a n d bring to the States for approval

a n y alterations to the designated use

o f l and shown on map No. 3-92, as

a g r eed by the Committee, in accordance w  it h Article 3 of the Island Planning

( J er sey) Law 1964, as amended.

 ( iii)  agreed to transfer to the

ad m i n istration of Waterfront E n te r p rise Board Limited -

( a ) those areas referred to in

p ro p o s ition (ii)(a) for the

p u rp o s e of the promotion of d ev e l o pment;

( b ) those areas of the west of Albert

re c l am  ation site phases I and II

sh o w  n on drawing No. 484/1 for the p u rp o s es of their maintenance,

m a n a g ement and landscaping with a v ie w t o the immediate improvement

o f th e areas;

( c ) those areas of the west of Albert

re c l am  ation site phases I and II

sh o w  n on drawing No. 484/1 for the p u rp o s es of the promotion of

d ev e l o pment subject to the prior

ap p r o v al of development proposals b y t h e Planning and Environment

C o m m  ittee in accordance with

p ro p o s ition (ii)(b) above.

 ( iv)  r equested the relevant Committees to a g re e with the Waterfront

E n te r p rise Board Limited any

d ev e l o pment, undertaking or other m a t er i al activity to be carried

o u t o n any land in the Waterfront

ar e a r e maining under the

ad m  i n istration of a Committee of

th e S ta tes.

Suspension of Standing Order No. 44(1)

THE STATES, on the proposition of Senator Pierre François Horsfall, suspended Standing Order No. 44(1) to allow members to discuss the part reimbursement of Class 2 Social Security contributions to certain States members (P.168/95).

States members: part reimbursement of Class 2 Social Security contributions - P.168/95

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the House Committee -

 ( a) agreed that, with effect from 1st

J a n uary 1995, States members who were

l ia b le to pay Class 2 social security

c o n tributions by virtue of receiving

m em bers' expense allowance and income s u p port, might apply to the Treasurer

o f t he States for reimbursement

e q u ivalent to the secondary

( e m ployer's) element of those

c o n tributions;

 ( b) authorised the Treasurer of the States

t o p ay the amount of any reimbursement f ro m the Finance and Economics

C o m mittee's revenue vote of credit

S t ates' Members - Income Supplement'' ( V o te No. 0614).

Public Service Vehicles (Fees) (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Regulations 1995 - P.172/95

THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 49A and 54 of the Motor Traffic (Jersey) Law 1935, as amended, made Regulations entitled the Public Service Vehicles (Fees) (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Regulations 1995.

Parish Rate (Administration) (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Law 1995 (Appointed Day) Act 1995 - P.174/95

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 4 of the Parish Rate (Administration) (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Law 1995, made an Act entitled the Parish Rate (Administration) (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Law 1995 (Appointed Day) Act 1995.

Pilotage (General Provisions) (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Regulations 1995 - P.176/95

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 2 of the Pilotage (Jersey) Law 1988, made Regulations entitled the Pilotage (General Provisions) (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Regulations 1995.

States members parking - statement

The President of the Public Services Committee made a statement in the following terms -

  As part of the Public Services

 C ommittee's traffic policy agreed by the

 S tates in May 1994 it was overwhelmingly

a greed that States members' cars should be

r emoved from the Royal Court Road as soon a s a satisfactory alternative location

c ould be identified.

M y Committee has since given the matter f urther consideration and has concluded

t hat the most suitable permanent site for

t he facility would be part of the Snow Hill c ar park. But the area is at present being

u sed as a working area for the cavern

p roject and will not be available until

e arly in 1997.

F ollowing the clearing up operation behind

t he Tourism office for the Liberation

c elebrations, an area became available for

p arking and has been in use for the summer b y a hire car company. It was agreed

f ollowing a joint meeting with the Planning a nd Environment Committee, that the area

c ould be made available for a limited

p eriod for the parking of States members

c ars until required for any approved

d evelopment. Whilst my Committee is aware t hat the Waterfront Enterprise Board is

c onsidering the possible development of the a rea it is felt that any commencement of

d evelopment of the area is still some

m onths away.

F ollowing consultation with the Bailiff and t he President of the House Committee, it

h as been agreed to implement a six month

t rial commencing as soon as new regulations c an be drafted, which will be sometime

b efore Easter 1996, using part of the area

o n the island site for States members' cars

a nd other authorised users of the present

a rea of the Royal Court Road and making

s ome provision in Vine Street for Jurats.

W e feel that a trial, before any final move

t o Snow Hill will be of value in indicating

a ny problems. For example, we are aware of t he difficulty that certain members have

w ith mobility and provision is to be made

a t the Church Street end of the Royal Court R oad for the parking of a limited number of v ehicles for such members and also to cater f or short-term visits to the States

B uilding for collection of papers, etc.

T he co-operation of members is sought in

o rder to bring about this move which will e nable substantial environmental

i mprovements to be made to the Square and p roviding the trial produces no unforeseen d ifficulty, the Committee will bring

f orward proposals for the necessary change t o the regulations and for the permanent

c losure of most of the Royal Court Road to t raffic at the end of the trial period.

S hould any member have legitimate problems d uring the trial period the Committee will

t ake all steps necessary to address those

p roblems.

A Merry Christmas and a Happy Traffic Free N ew Year to all members.''

Adjournment

THE STATES then adjourned, having agreed that the outstanding items of public business should stand over until Tuesday, 19th December 1995.

THE STATES rose at 5.22 p.m.

  G  .H  .C . C  O P P O  C K G  re f fi e r o f the States.