States Assembly 19th December 1995

STATES MINUTES 19t h D ecem ber 1995

T HE STATES assembled on Tuesday, 19th December 1995 at 9.30 a.m. under t he Presidency of the Bailiff ,

P hilip Martin Bailhache , Esquire

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His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor,

 General Sir Michael Wilkes, K.C.B., C.B.E, w as pr e sent.

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All Members were present with the exception of -

M argaret Anne Le Geyt, Deputy of St. S aviour - out of the Island

J acqueline Jeannette Huet, Deputy of St. H elier - out of the Island.

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P r aye rs

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Matters lodged

The following matters were lodged au Greffe'' -

1 . First Tower School, St. Helier : pur chase of property - P.185/95. P r es ented by the Planning and

E nvi ronment Committee.

2 . Draft Health and Safety at Work

( A m endment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 199 - P .186/ 95.

P r es ented by the Employment and

S oci al Security Committee.

3 . European Convention for the

P r ot ection of Human Rights and

F undam ental Freedoms: Articles 25 and 46 - P.187/95.

P r es ented by the Policy and

R es ources Committee.

MV Saint-Malo'' rescue: recommendations - R.C. 29/95

Deputy John Nicolle Le Fondré, President of the Harbours and Airport Committee, made a statement in the following terms -

Members of the States will recall the

i ncident involving the MV Saint-Malo' off

C orbière on Monday, 17th April 1995 when

t he vessel struck rocks at high speed

w hilst carrying 300 passengers and seven

c rew. Fortunately as a result of excellent

w ork carried out by the rescue services and

o ther vessels nearby, there was no loss of

l ife. Soon after, my Committee commissioned t he Marine Accident Investigation Branch in

t he United Kingdom to undertake a full

i nquiry and the results of that inquiry

w ere published in September. Since that

t ime discussions have been held with the

M arine Safety Agency of the Department of

T ransport in the United Kingdom and a

n umber of recommendations have now been

a greed which are addressed to the States of

J ersey, Channiland, the Secretariat d'Etat

a la Mer - Affaires Maritime and the

I nternational Maritime Organisation

S ecretariat.

T he matters relating to Jersey are -

1 . placing a navigation mark on La

F r ouq uie rock to ensure it is clearly vi si ble at all states of tide;

2 . keeping the main route through the

pas sage clear of fishing marker buoys i f t he inshore passage at La Corbiere

i s t o c ontinue to be used by high speed cr af t to reduce passenger discomfort;

3 . imposing a speed restriction on all cr af t navigating the passage.

M y Committee will do everything in its

p ower to comply with the recommendations a ddressed to the States. The remainder will b e forwarded to the various organisations

b y the Marine Safety Agency. The full list

o f recommendations will be made public

t oday.''

2 to 10 Halkett Place and 21 and 23 Hill Street, St. Helier : redevelopment - P.161/95 (Revised)

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Planning and Environment Committee -

( a) approved, in principle, subject to the

pr ov isions of sub-paragraphs (b) and

( d ), t he redevelopment of the

pr op erties known as 2 to 10 Halkett

P l a ce, 21 Hill Street and 23 Hill

S t reet , St. Helier , (as shown on

dr a wing No. 480/1) for use for public

of fi ces, as set out in the report of

t he P lanning and Environment Committee, dat ed N ovember 1995; and authorised the G r ef fier of the States to sign the said

dr a wing on behalf of the States;

( b) authorised the purchase on behalf of

t he publ ic from Advocate Peter

H a w ksford Giffard of the property known as 2 3 Hill Street, St. Helier (as shown

hat ched on drawing No. 480/1) for

£ 800,0 00, with each party responsible

f or i ts own legal fees;

( c) authorised the payment or discharge of t he expe nses incurred in connexion with t he pur chase of 23 Hill Street, St.

H e l ier, and any interest therein, from

t he P lanning and Environment

C om mittee's vote of credit No. C0904

A cqu isition of Land - Major Reserve';

( d) authorised -

( i) the Planning and Environment and the F inanc e and Economics

C om m ittees to obtain the necessary fundi ng f or the said redevelopment fr om pr ivate sources; and

( ii ) t  he Planning and Environment C om m ittee to enter into such

ag r ee m ents as are necessary for the s a i d redevelopment;

( e) authorised the Attorney General and the G r ef fier of the States to pass, on

beha lf of the public, any contracts

w h i ch it might be found necessary to

pas s in connexion with the purchase of

23 H ill Street, St. Helier , and any

i nt er est therein, and the Attorney

G e ner al and the Greffier of the States

t o p ass, and the Greffier of the States

t o s ign, such other contracts and

agr eements as might be found to be

nece ssary in connexion with the said

r ed evelopment.

Members present voted as follows - P our '' (41)

Senators

S henton, Jeune , Horsfall, Le Maistre,

S tein, Chinn, Bailhache , Syvret, Tomes.

Connétable s

S t. Clement, St. Lawrence , St. Mary , St. Brelade , Grouville , St. Helier , St.

S aviour, Trinity , St. Martin , St. Ouen , St. J ohn.

Deputies

R umboll(H), Wavell(S), Norman(C), St. P eter, H. Baudains(C), Le Sueur (H),

C outanche(L), Huelin(B), St. Mary ,

L e Fondré(L), Walker (H), Crespel(H), P ullin(S), Trinity , Carter(H), Johns(H), D uhamel(S), Matthews(B), Routier(H), D orey(H), St. Martin .

C ont re'' (9) Senators

R othwell, Le Main, Quérée. Connétable

S t. Peter.

Deputies

S . Baudains(H), Layzell(B), Breckon(S), G rouville, St. John .

Centrepoint II, Green Street, St. Helier : purchase of St. Helier Day Nursery - P.171/95

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Planning and Environment Committee -

( a) authorised the purchase from the Parish of S t. Helier of the freehold of the

pr op erty known as St. Helier Day

N u r sery (formerly La Corderie), Rope

Wal k, Green Street, St. Helier (as

s how n on drawing No. 483/1) for a

cons ideration of £275,000, for the

pur pose of establishing a second

C ent repoint Resources Centre, with each par ty being responsible for its own

l egal fees;

( b) authorised the Greffier of the States t o s ign the said drawing on behalf of t he S tates;

( c) authorised the Attorney General and the G r ef fier of the States to pass, on beha lf of the public, any contracts

w h i ch it might be found necessary to pas s in connexion with the said

pr op erty and any interest therein;

( d) authorised the payment or discharge of t he expe nses to be incurred in

conne xion with the acquisition of the

s ai d pr operty and of all interests

t he r ein from the Planning and

E nvi ronment Committee's capital vote of cr edi t Acquisition of Land - Major

R es erve'' Vote No. (C0904);

( e) approved the lease to the Centrepoint R es ources Centre of the St. Helier Day N u rsery premises at a nominal annual r en t of £10 a year for a period of nine year s, for the purpose of establishing

t he C entrepoint II project;

( f) authorised the Greffier of the States t o s ign the said lease on behalf of the publ ic;

( g) authorised the Treasurer of the States t o r eceive the rent as it became due.

Taxis and cabs in Jersey: re-organisation - P.154/95

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of the Public Services Committee regarding the re-organisation of taxis and cabs in Jersey. After discussion, Senator Pierre François Horsfall proposed that the States move to the consideration of the next item on the

order paper, which proposition was carried, more than 20 members voting in support thereof.

Draft Gambling (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Law 199 - P.170/95

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a

Law entitled the Gambling (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Law 199 .

Members present voted on the preamble as follows -

P our '' (32) Senators

S henton, Jeune , Horsfall, Rothwell, Le M aistre, Stein, Bailhache .

Connétable s

S t. Clement, St. Mary , St. Peter , G rouville, St. Helier , St. Saviour , T rinity, St. John .

Deputies

R umboll(H), Norman(C), St. Peter , Le

S ueur(H), Coutanche(L), Huelin(B), St.

M ary, Le Fondré(L), Walker (H), Crespel(H), C arter(H), Duhamel(S), Routier(H),

L ayzell(B), Breckon(S), St. Martin , St.

J ohn.

C ont re'' (13) Senators

L e Main, Quérée, Syvret. Connétable

S t. Brelade.

Deputies

W avell(S), H. Baudains(C), S. Baudains(H), P ullin(S), Trinity , Johns(H), Matthews(B), D orey(H), Grouville .

Senator Vernon Amy Tomes declared an interest in the matter and withdrew from the Chamber prior to the debate.

Compliments of the season

The Bailiff wished the members of the States and their families a Happy Christmas and a peaceful New Year.

In return, Senator Reginald Robert Jeune , on behalf of the Senators, Connétable Leonard René Hamel of St. Clement , on behalf of the Connétable s, and Deputy Robin Ernest Richard Rumboll of St. Helier , on behalf of the

Deputies, wished the Bailiff and Mrs. Bailhache , the Law Officers and the officers of the States the compliments of the season.

THE STATES rose at 12.30 p.m.

G .H .C . C O P P O C K G r ef fi e r of the States.