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States Minutes 12th December 1996

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STATES MINUTES 1 2 th D e cember 1996   P ri c e : £ 1 . 0 0

T HE STATES assembled on Thursday, 12th December 1996 at 11.00 a.m. under t h e Presidency of the Bailiff ,

S ir P  hilip Bailhache

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His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor,

 General Sir Michael Wilkes, K.C.B., C.B.E, w a s p r e sent.

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All members were present with the exception of - S enator Stuart Syvret - suspended.

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P r a y e rs

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New Members - welcome

The Bailiff welcomed to the Assembly the new Members of the States.

Appointment of Presidents of Committees

THE STATES, in accordance with Standing Order 41, appointed Presidents of Committees and other delegations of the States as follows -

S e n a to r P i e rre

Policy and Resources F r a nçois Horsfall Committee  

Finance and Economics S e nator Frank Committee H a r ri s o n W alker

Establishment   D e p u ty David Leon

C r e s p e l  

Planning and Environment  S enator Nigel Lewis  Q  u ér é e  

 ( D e p u t y H  a rr y

 H  al l ew  e ll B  a u d ains

o f S t . C l e m e n t

 d e f e at e d b y 3 1

 v o t e s to 2 1 ) .  

Health and Social Services Connétable Jack  R o c h e o f S t .  

 S a v i o u r  

Education S e n a to r L e onard N o rm a n

Public Services S e n at o r Vernon Amy  T o m  e s  

 ( D e p u t y A  la s ta i r

 J o h n L  a y ze l l o f

 S t . B r e la d e  

 d e f e at e d b y 3 6

 v o t e s to 1 6 ) .  

Agriculture and Fisheries   Deputy Jeremy  L a u r e n c e D  o re y of

S t . H e l ie r  

T h e re s u l ts o f th e b a l lo t s w e r e a s

f o ll o w s  -  

f ir s t b a ll o t  

D  ep u t y Je r e m y

L a u r e n c e D  o re y of

S t . H e l ie r 2 2  

v o t e s, S  en a t o r J ean

A  m y L e M  a i st r e 19

v o t e s, D  e p u ty

R o b e r t C h a r l es

D  u h am  e l o f S t .

S a v i o u r 7 v o t e s ,

D  ep u t y E v e ly n Mabel P u l li n o f S t.  

S a v i o u r 4 v o t e s

s e c o n d b a l lo t   D  ep u t y D o r e y 2 6 v o t e s, S  en a t o r L e M  a is t re 2 5 v o t e s.

Tourism S e n a to r J o h n

 S t e p h e n R o t h w e ll

 ( S e n a to r J e a n A my  L e M  ai s tr e d e f e ated  b y 2 5 v o t e s to 1 9).

Defence D e p u t y M  ic hael Adam  W  a v e ll o f S t.  

 S a v i o u r  

Employment and Social Deputy Terence Security A u g u st in e Le Sueur

o f S t . H e l ie r  

 ( S e n a to r C  o rr i e

 S t e in d e fe a t e d b y

4 1 v o te s t o 1 0 ) .

Housing S e n a to r C  o rrie  S t e in  

T h e re s u l ts o f th e b a l lo t s w e r e a s

f o ll o w s  -

f ir s t b a ll o t  

D  ep u t y D e r ek R yder M  a lt w o o d o f S t .

M  a ry 2 1 vo  te s ,

S e n a t o r C o r ri e

S t e in 1 9 v o t e s ,

D  ep u t y S h ir le y

M  a rg a r e t B a u d a ins

o f S t . H e l ie r 1 1

v o t e s  

s e c o n d b a l lo t  

S e n a t o r S te i n 2 6

v o t e s, D  e p u ty  

M  a lt w o o d 2 4 v o tes.

Harbours and Airport D  ep uty James Thomas  J o h n s o f S  t. H  el ier

 ( D e p u t y T e r e n c e

 J o h n L  e M  a in o f St.

 H  el i er d e fe a t ed by

 2 8 v o te s t o 2 2 ) .

Telecommunications Board  S enator Nigel Lewis

Q  u ér é e  

Committee for Postal S e n ator Frank Administration H  ar r is o n Walker

House D e p u t y D e r e k Ryder  M  a lt w o o d o f S t .

 M  a ry  

Legislation D e p u t y I mogen

 N  ic h o l ls o f  

 G  ro u v i ll e  

 ( S e n a to r V  e rn o n Amy  T o m  e s d e f e at e d by

 2 6 v o te s t o 2 4 ) .

Sport, Leisure and S e n a tor Jean Amy Le Recreation M  a is t re

Industrial Relations D  ep uty Terence  A  u g u st i n e L e S ueur

o f S t . H e l ie r  

 ( S e n a to r C  o rr i e

 S t e in d e fe a t e d b y

3 7 v o te s t o 1 3 ) .

Prison Board D  ep u t y Henry George  C o u t a n c h e o f S t.

 L a w  re n c e .  

Etat Civil C o n n é t a b le Edwin Le  G  re s le y G o d e l o f

 S t . M  ar y  

 ( D e p u t y A  la n S imon

 C r o w  cr o f t o f S t .

 H  el i er d e fe a t ed by

 3 3 v o te s t o 1 7 ) .

Overseas Aid   S e n a t o r Patricia  A  n n B a i lh a c h e

f ir s t b a ll o t

S e n a t o r P a tr i ci a A  n n B a i lh a c h e 25 v o t e s, D  e p u ty T e r e n c e J o h n l e   M  a in o f S t . H e l ier 2 5 v o te s  

s e c o n d b a l lo t

S e n a t o r B a i lh a c he 2 6 v o te s , D e p u t y Le M  a in 2 4 v o t e s .

Gambling Control D  ep u t y Graeme  E r n e s t R a b e t o f St.

 H  el i er  

( D e p u t y R  o nald

 W  i n te r B  la m  p ie d of

 S t . H e l ie r d e f e a ted

 b y 4 3 v o t e s to 7 ).

Cottage Homes S e n at o r Corrie  S t e in  

Broadcasting D  ep u t y I mogen  S t e p h a n ie N i ch o lls

o f G  ro u v i l le  

 ( S e n a to r J o h n  

S t e p h e n R othwell

 d e f e at e d b y 2 7

 v o t e s to 2 3 ) .  

Ann Alice Rayner Fund S e nator Frank  H  ar r is o n W  al k e r

Special Committee  to S e nator Vernon Amy consider Relationship T o mes

between Committees and the

States

Jersey Transport Authority Deputy Alastair  J o h n L  a y ze l l o f St.

 B r e l ad e  

 ( D e p u t y D  e re k

 R y d e r M a l tw  o o d of

 S t . M  ar y w i th d r ew

 h i s n o m  in a t io n ) .

 ( D e p u t y P h i li p John

 R o n d e l o f S t. J o hn

 d e f e at e d b y 3 6

 v o t e s to 1 4 ) .  

Special Committee on S e n ator Nigel Lewis Freedom of Information Q  uérée

THE STATES rejected a proposition of Senator Richard Joseph Shenton that the appointment of the President of the Special Committee on Freedom of Information be deferred.

Members present voted as follows -

P o u r'' (15) Senators

Shenton, Le Maistre, Stein, Kinnard. Connétable s

St. Mary , St. Peter, St. Helier , St. Ouen.

Deputies

Routier(H), Breckon(S), Grouville , Le Main(H), Rabet(H), Crowcroft (H), Dubras(L).

C o n tre'' (35) Senators

Horsfall, Rothwell, Quérée, Bailhache , Tomes, Norman, Walker .

Connétable s

St. Lawrence, St. Brelade , Grouville , St. Saviour, St. Martin , St. John, Trinity .

Deputies

Wavell(S), H. Baudains(C), Le Sueur(H), Coutanche(L), St. Mary, S. Baudains(H), Trinity , Pullin(S), Johns(H), Duhamel(S), Dorey(H), Layzell(B), Huet(H), St. Martin , St. John, Blampied(H), Vibert (B), de la Haye(B), Le Cornu(C), S. Pierre, S. Ouen.

Committee of Inquiry  Senator

to investigate the R i c h ard Joseph procedure followed in S h enton relation to the time-

tabling, preparation and

presentation to the

States of the Draft

Limited Liability

Partnerships (Jersey) Law

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Chairman, Joint D e puty Derek

Advisory Council R y d e r Maltwood of  S t . M  ar y  

Industrial Disputes Officer and Deputy Industrial Disputes Officer

THE STATES decided to defer the

appointment of an Indstrial Disputes Officer and a Deputy Industrial Disputes Officer until the next meeting.

THE STATES rose at 4.16 p.m.

  G  .H  .C . C  O P P O  C K G  re f fi e r o f the States.