States Minutes 27th September 2001

THE STATES assembled on Thursday,

27th September 2001 at 9.30 a.m. under

the Presidency of the Miss Catherine Mary Newcombe, Greffier of the States.

His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor,

Air Chief Marshal Sir John Cheshire, K.B.E., C.B., was present

All members were present with the exception of -

S enat or Terence Augustine Le Sueur - out of the Island K e nneth Priaulx Vibert , Connétable of St. Ouen - absent

Prayers read by the Deputy Greffier of the States.

Draft Health Insurance (Medical Benefit) (Amendment No. 54) (Jersey) Regulations 200- P.138/2001

THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 18 and 46 of the Health Insurance (Jersey) Law 1967, as amended, made Regulations entitled the Health Insurance (Medical Benefit) (Amendment No. 54) (Jersey) Regulations 2001.

Draft Matrimonial Causes (Amendment No. 10) (Jersey) Law 2000 (Appointed Day) Act 200- P.136/2001

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 2(2) of the Matrimonial Causes (Amendment No. 10) (Jersey) Law 2000, made an Act entitled the Matrimonial Causes (Amendment No. 10) (Jersey) Law 2000 (Appointed Day) Act 2001.

Machinery of Government: proposed reforms - P.122/2001 Amendments (1) to (5) and comments

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Policy and Resources Committee regarding the Machinery of Government: proposed reforms and adopted amendments of Senator Christopher Gerard Pellow Lakeman that in sub-paragraph (v) of paragraph (a)-

( i) after the words drawn up by the' there should be inserted the words Privileges and'; and

( ii ) after the words scrutinise legislation' there should be inserted the words (including subordinate

legislation),'.

THE STATES adopted an amendment of Deputy Peter Nicholas Troy of St. Brelade that in sub- paragraph (vii) of paragraph (a) after the wordsthose who are' there should be inserted the words -

by   a margin equivalent to at least ten per cent of the total membership of the States, with any resulting fraction of one being regarded as one'

Members present voted as follows -

"Pour" (36)

Senators

Horsfall, Le Maistre, Stein, Quérée, Norman, Walker , Kinnard, Le Claire, Lakeman.

Connétable s

Grouville , St. Helier, St. Martin, St. Saviour, St. Clement, St. Brelade, St. Mary, St. John, St. Pete Deputies

S. Baudains(H), Trinity , Duhamel(S), Breckon(S), St. Martin, St. John, Le Main(H), Crowcroft (H Vibert (B), Dubras(L), St. Ouen, G. Baudains(C), Dorey(H), Troy (B), Voisin(L), Scott Warr en(S Fox(H), Bridge(H).

"Contre" (10)

Senator

Bailhache .

Connétable

St. Lawrence .

Deputies

H. Baudains(C), Routier(H), Layzell(B), Huet(H), St. Peter, Farnham (S), Ozouf (H), Martin(H).

THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Robert Charles Duhamel of St. Saviour that after sub- paragraph (vii) of paragraph (a) there should be inserted the following sub-paragraph -

(v iii) any proposition brought before the States by the Chief Minister or any other Minister on behalf of the Executive shall only be adopted if approved, not only by a majority of all members present, but also by a majority of those members present who are not involved in the Executive;'

Members present voted as follows -

"Pour" (11)

Senators

Quérée, Le Claire.

Connétable s

Grouville , St. Helier , St. Clement , St. Mary .

Deputies

Duhamel(S), Breckon(S), St. John, G. Baudains(C), Martin(H).

"Contre" (34)

Senators

Horsfall, Le Maistre, Stein, Bailhache , Norman, Walker , Kinnard, Lakeman. Connétable s

St. Martin, Trinity , St. Saviour, St. Brelade, St. Lawrence, St. Peter. Deputies

H. Baudains(C), St. Mary, Trinity , Routier(H), Layzell(B), Grouville , Le Main(H), Crowcroft (H Vibert (B), St. Peter, Dubras(L), St. Ouen, Dorey(H), Troy (B), Voisin(L), Scott Warr en(S), Farnham (S), Ozouf (H), Fox(H), Bridge(H).

THE STATES adopted amendments of Senator Christopher Gerard Pellow Lakeman that in paragraph (a) - i n s ub-paragraph (ix) -

( i) there should be deleted the words civil service';

(i i) after the word appointments' there should be inserted the words to the civil service and

autonomous and quasi-autonomous public bodies';

and t hat for the existing sub-paragraph (x) there should be substituted the following sub-paragraph -

"(x) the Policy and Resources Committee, after consultation with the Comité des Connétable s, will

bring forward for approval by the States proposals on the future relationship between the Parishes and the other areas of public administration and, in particular -

(i ) t he provision of services;

(i i) r esource allocation and financing;

(i ii ) a review of the Parish institutions; and

(i v ) t he position of the Parish of St. Helier;"

THE STATES then resumed consideration of the proposition of the Policy and Resources Committee, as

amended.

Indemnity of commercial services against third party war and terrorism insurance

THE STATES agreed to suspend Standing Order No. 18(2) to enable consideration of an urgent matter presented without notice and, adopting a proposition of the Finance and Economics Committee -

( a ) authorised the Treasurer of the States to indemnify, as necessary, and at his discretion, any relevant

organisation providing commercial services in Jersey relating to air transport, against third party war and terrorism insurance liabilities, for a period of up to 40 days beginning at 6 p.m. on 27th September 2001, on terms and conditions to be determined by the Treasurer of the States;

( b ) authorised the Finance and Economics Committee, within that period of 40 days, to review the

matter, and to put in place as necessary, further arrangements for indemnifying such liabilities, with the object of ensuring that air transport to and from Jersey was not impeded; and

( c ) required the Finance and Economics Committee to report back to the States by 28th February 2002. Adjournment

THE STATES, then adjourned, having rejected a proposition to continue consideration of the proposition, as amended, of the Policy and Resources Committee regarding the Machinery of Government: proposed reforms (P.122/2001) at this meeting and having agreed to meet at 9.30 a.m. on Friday 28th September 2001 to continue consideration of the proposition.

Members present voted as follows on the proposition to meet on Friday 28th September 2001 -

"Pour" (26)

Senators

Horsfall, Stein, Quérée, Bailhache , Norman, Walker , Lakeman. Connétable s

Trinity , St. Saviour , St. Clement , St. Lawrence .

Deputies

H. Baudains(C), Routier(H), Layzell(B), St. Martin, Crowcroft (H), St. Peter, Dubras(L), St. Oue Dorey(H), Voisin(L), Scott Warr en(S), Farnham (S), Ozouf (H), Fox(H), Bridge(H).

"Contre" (23)

Senators

Le Maistre, Syvret, Kinnard, Le Claire.

Connétable s

Grouville , St. Helier, St. Martin, St. Brelade, St. Mary, St. John, St. Peter. Deputies

S. Baudains(H), Trinity , Duhamel(S), Breckon(S), Grouville , St. John, Le Main(H), Vibert (B

G. Baudains(C), Troy (B), Le Hérissier(S), Martin(H).

Change of Presidency

THE STATES re-assembled after the lunch adjournment under the Presidency of Mr. Michael Cameron St. John Birt, Deputy Bailiff , during consideration of the proposition, as amended, of the Policy and Resources Committee regarding the Machinery of Government: proposed reforms.

THE STATES rose at 5.40 p.m.

M .N . D E L A H A Y E

Deputy Greffier of the States.