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States Minutes 17th December 2002

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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday, 17th December 2002 at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,

Sir Philip Bailhache .

His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor,

Air Chief Marshal Sir John Cheshire, K.B.E., C.B., was present

All members were present with the exception of -

F r ancis Herbert Amy, Connétable of Grouville - ill

P e ter Nicholas Troy , Deputy of St. Brelade - out of the Island J e nnifer-Anne Bridge, Deputy of St. Helier - ill.

Prayers

Subordinate legislation tabled

The following enactments were laid before the States, namely -

P o st Office (Foreign Post Provisions) (Amendment No. 29) (Jersey) Order 2002. R&O 176/2002.

P e t Travel Scheme (Pilot Arrangements) (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Order 2002. R&O 177/2002.

P o st Office (General Provisions) (Amendment No. 50) (Jersey) Order 2002. R&O 178/2002.

M  arriage and Civil Status (Forms, Registration and Fees) (Amendment) (Jersey) Order 2002. R&O  179/2002.

Matter presented

The following matter was presented to the States -

A Strategy for the Construction Industry. R.C.51/2002. Industries Committee.

THE STATES ordered that the said report be printed and distributed. Arrangement of public business for the next meeting on 21st January 2003

THE STATES confirmed that the following matters lodged "au Greffe" would be considered at the next meeting on 21st January 2003 -

Draft Health Insurance (Amendment No.  13) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.222/2002. Lodged: 26th November 2002.

Employment and Social Security Committee.

Draft Family Allowances (Amendment No.  6) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.223/2002. Lodged: 26th November 2002.

Employment and Social Security Committee.

Appointment of Committees

THE STATES pursuant to their Act dated 12th December 2002, with regard to the appointment of Presidents of Committees, made the following appointments -

POLICY AND RESOURCES COMMITTEE

THE STATES in accordance with Article 28(2)(b) of the States of Jersey Law 1966, and on a proposition of Senator F.H. Walker , President of the Policy and Resources Committee, determined that the Policy and Resources Committee should consist of the President and six other elected members of the States, proposed by the President as follows -

S e n at or W. Kinnard

S e n at or T.A. Le Sueur

S e n at or M.E. Vibert

S e n at or P.F.C. Ozouf

C o n n étable K.P. Vibert of St. Ouen D e p u ty M.F. Dubras of St. Lawrence

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the above had been elected members of the Policy and Resources Committee.

PRIVILEGES AND PROCEDURES COMMITTEE

THE STATES in accordance with Article 28(2)(b) of the States of Jersey Law 1966, and on a proposition of Senator C.G.P. Lakeman, President of the Privileges and Procedures Committee, determined that the Privileges and Procedures Committee should consist of the President and six other elected members of the States, proposed by the President as follows -

C o n n étable D.F. Gray of St. Clement

D e p u ty F.J. Hill B.E.M., of St. Martin D e p u ty C.J. Scott - Warr en of St. Saviour D e p u ty R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour D e p u ty J-A. Bridge of St. Helier

D e p u ty J.A. Bernstein of St. Brelade

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the above had been elected members of the Privileges and Procedures Committee.

FINANCE AND ECONOMICS COMMITTEE

Senator T.A. Le Sueur, President of the Finance and Economics Committee, proposed for appointment as members of the Finance and Economics Committee -

S e n at or P.F. Routier

S e n at or P.F.C. Ozouf

D e p u ty D.L. Crespel of Trinity D e p u ty G.J. Grime of St. Mary

Senator S. Syvret was proposed by Senator J.A. Le Maistre.

THE STATES, having proceeded to a secret ballot, were advised of the following results by the Bailiff -

D e p u ty G.J. Grime of St. Mary     4 6 v o tes S e n at or P.F. Routier   4 5 v o t e s D e p u ty D.L. Crespel of Trinity   4 5 v o tes S e n at or P.F.C. Ozouf 3 4 v o t e s

S e n at or S. Syvret     2 6 v o t e s

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the following had been elected members of the Finance and Economics Committee -

S e n at or P.F. Routier

S e n at or P.F.C. Ozouf

D e p u ty D.L. Crespel of Trinity D e p u ty G.J. Grime of St. Mary

ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE

THE STATES in accordance with Article 28(2)(b) of the States of Jersey Law 1966, and on a proposition of Deputy M.F. Dubras of St. Lawrence, President of the Environment and Public Services Committee, determined that the Environment and Public Services Committee should consist of the President and six other elected members of the States, proposed by the President as follows -

C o n n étable P.F. Ozouf of St. Saviour

C o n n étable A.S. Crowcroft of St. Helier D e p u ty J.B. Fox of St. Helier

D e p u ty G.J. Grime of St. Mary

D e p u ty P.J.D. Ryan of St. Helier

D e p u ty M.A. Taylor of St. Clement

Deputy R.C. Duhamel of St. Saviour was proposed by Deputy P.J. Rondel of St. John

Deputy J.A. Hilton of St. Helier was proposed by Senator W. Kinnard

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains of St. Clement was proposed by Deputy F.J. Hill, B.E.M., of St. Martin Connétable T.J. du Feu of St. Peter was proposed by Deputy J.L. Dorey of St. Helier

Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier was proposed by Deputy R.C. Duhamel of St. Saviour Deputy G.W.J. de Faye was proposed by Deputy R.C. Duhamel of St. Saviour

THE STATES, having proceeded to a secret ballot, were advised of the following results by the Bailiff -

C o n n étables A.S. Crowcroft of St. Helier 3 2 v otes

D e p u ty M.A. Taylor of St. Clement   3 1 v o t e s  

C o n n étable P.F. Ozouf of St. Saviour 3 0 v o te s

D e p u ty J.A. Hilton of St. Helier 3 0 v o te s D e p u ty J.B. Fox of St. Helier  2 9 v o te s  D e p u ty R.C. Duhamel of St. Saviour 2 6 v o t e s

D e p u ty G.J. Grime of St. Mary 2 4 v o t e s D e p u ty P.J.D. Ryan of St. Helier 2 2 v o te s

D e p u ty G.C.L. Baudains of St. Clement 2 2 v o tes

D e p u ty G.W.J. de Faye of St. Helier 2 0 v o t e s

C o n n étable T.J. du Feu of St. Peter 1 6 v o t e s  

D e p u ty G.P. Southern of St. Helier   1 2 v o te s

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the following had been elected members of the Environment and Public Services Committee -

C o n n étable P.F. Ozouf of St. Saviour

C o n n étable A.S. Crowcroft of St. Helier D e p u ty R.C. Duhamel of St. Saviour

D e p u ty J.B. Fox of St. Helier

D e p u ty M.A. Taylor of St. Clement

D e p u ty J.A. Hilton of St. Helier

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE

Deputy F.G. Voisin of St. Lawrence, President of the Economic Development Committee, proposed for appointment as members of the Economic Development Committee -

Senator L. Norman

Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Saviour Deputy P.J.D. Ryan of St. Helier Deputy M.A. Taylor of St. Clement

Deputy G.J. Grime of St. Mary was proposed by Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Deputy G.W.J. de Faye of St. Helier was proposed by Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour

THE STATES, having proceeded to a secret ballot, were advised of the following results by the Bailiff -

Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Saviour 3 9 v o t e s  

Senator L. Norman   3 8 v o t e s   Deputy M.A. Taylor of St. Clement 3 5 v o t e s  

Deputy P.J.D. Ryan of St. Helier 2 8 v o te s

D e p u ty G.J. Grime of St. Mary 2 7 v o t e s

D e p u ty G.W.J. de Faye of St. Helier 2 1 v o t e s

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the following had been elected members of the Economic Development Committee -

Senator L. Norman

Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Saviour Deputy P.J.D. Ryan of St. Helier Deputy M.A. Taylor of St. Clement

HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE

THE STATES in accordance with Article 28(2)(b) of the States of Jersey Law 1966, and on a proposition of Senator S. Syvret, President of the Health and Social Services Committee, determined that the Health and Social Services Committee should consist of the President and six other elected members of the States, proposed by the President as follows -

S e n at or P.V.F. Le Claire

Connétable K.A. Le Brun of St. Mary

Deputy F.J. Hill B.E.M., of St. Martin D e p u ty C.J. Scott Warr en of St. Saviour D e p u ty J.A. Martin of St. Helier

D e p u ty J.G. Reed of St. Ouen

Connétable J. Le S. Gallichan of Trinity was proposed by Deputy P.J. Rondel of St. John Deputy R.C. Duhamel of St. Saviour was proposed by Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour Deputy S.C. Ferguson of St. Brelade was proposed by Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

THE STATES, having proceeded to a secret ballot, were advised of the following results by the Bailiff -

Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en of St. Saviour 4 1 v o tes

C o n n étable K.A. Le Brun of St. Mary 3 9 v o t e s

Deputy J.A. Martin of St. Helier 3 2 v o t e s Deputy F.J. Hill B.E.M., of St. Martin 3 1 v o tes

Deputy S.C. Ferguson of St. Brelade 2 7 v o t e s

Connétable J. Le S. Gallichan of Trinity 2 6 v o t es

Senator P.V.F. Le Claire   2 4 v o te s  

Deputy J.G. Reed of St. Ouen  2 4 v o t e s

Deputy G.J. Grime of St. Mary 2 2 v o t e s

Deputy R.C. Duhamel of St. Saviour 1 6 v o t e s

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the following had been elected members of the Health and Social Services Committee -

Connétable K.A. Le Brun of St. Mary Connétable J. Le S. Gallichan of Trinity Deputy F.J. Hill B.E.M., of St. Martin

D e p u ty C.J. Scott Warr en of St. Saviour D e p u ty J.A. Martin of St. Helier

D e p u ty J.G. Reed of St. Ouen

EDUCATION, SPORT AND CULTURE COMMITTEE

Senator M.E. Vibert , President of the Education, Sport and Culture Committee, proposed for appointment as members of the Education, Sport and Culture Committee -

Deputy J.B. Fox of St. Helier

D e p u ty J.A. Martin of St. Helier

D e p u ty J.A. Bernstein of St. Brelade D e p u ty C.F. Labey of Grouville

Connétable T.J. du Feu of St. Peter was proposed by Deputy J.L. Dorey of St. Helier Connétable D.F. Gray of St. Clement was proposed by Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour

THE STATES, having proceeded to a secret ballot, were advised of the following results by the Bailiff -

Deputy J.A. Bernstein of St. Brelade 3 9 v o t e s

Deputy J.B. Fox of St. Helier  3 6 v o te s  

Deputy C.F. Labey of Grouville 3 5 v o t e s

D e p u ty J.A. Martin of St. Helier   3 1 v o t e s  

Connétable T.J. du Feu of St. Peter   2 8 v o t e s  

Connétable D.F. Gray of St. Clement 2 3 v o te s

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the following had been elected members of the Education, Sport and Culture Committee -

Deputy J.B. Fox of St. Helier

D e p u ty J.A. Martin of St. Helier

D e p u ty J.A. Bernstein of St. Brelade D e p u ty C.F. Labey of Grouville HOME AFFAIRS COMMITTEE

THE STATES in accordance with Article 28(2)(b) of the States of Jersey Law 1966, and on a proposition of Senator W. Kinnard, President of the Home Affairs Committee, determined that the Home Affairs Committee should consist of the President and five other elected members of the States, proposed by the President as follows -

Senator J.A. Le Maistre Connétable K.P. Vibert of St. Ouen Deputy C.F. Labey of Grouville

D e p u ty C.H. Egré of St. Peter

D e p u ty J.A. Hilton of St. Helier

Deputy P.J. Rondel of St. John was proposed by Deputy J.L. Dorey of St. Helier

THE STATES, having proceeded to a secret ballot, were advised of the following results by the Bailiff -

Deputy J.A. Hilton of St. Helier 4 6

Connétable K.P. Vibert of St. Ouen 4 4  

Deputy C.H. Egré of St. Peter 4 3

Deputy C.F. Labey of Grouville 3 9

Senator J.A. Le Maistre   3 4   D e p u ty P.J. Rondel of St. John 3 4

Second Ballot -

D e p u ty P.J. Rondel of St. John 3 3

S e n at or J.A. Le Maistre   1 4  

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the following had been elected members of the Home Affairs Committee -

Connétable K.P. Vibert of St. Ouen Deputy P.J. Rondel of St. John Deputy C.F. Labey of Grouville

D e p u ty C.H. Egré of St. Peter

D e p u ty J.A. Hilton of St. Helier

EMPLOYMENT AND SOCIAL SECURITY COMMITTEE

Senator P.F. Routier, President of the Employment and Social Security Committee, proposed for appointment as members of the Employment and Social Security Committee -

Connétable M.J. Touzel of St. John Deputy J.L. Dorey of St. Helier

D e p u ty P.N. Troy of St. Brelade

D e p u ty S.C. Ferguson of St. Brelade

Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier was proposed by Deputy R.C. Duhamel of St. Saviour

THE STATES, having proceeded to a secret ballot, were advised of the following results by the Bailiff -

Connétable M.J. Touzel of St. John 4 8  

Deputy J.L. Dorey of St. Helier 4 7 D e p u ty S.C. Ferguson of St. Brelade 4 1  

D e p u ty P.N. Troy of St. Brelade   4 0  

Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier   1 6  

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the following had been elected members of the Employment and Social Security Committee -

Connétable M.J. Touzel of St. John Deputy J.L. Dorey of St. Helier

D e p u ty P.N. Troy of St. Brelade

D e p u ty S.C. Ferguson of St. Brelade

HOUSING COMMITTEE

Deputy T.J. Le Main of St. Helier, President of the Housing Committee, proposed for appointment as members of the Housing Committee -

Deputy D.L. Crespel of Trinity D e p u ty J.J. Huet of St. Helier

D e p u ty J.L. Dorey of St. Helier D e p u ty J.G. Reed of St. Ouen

Senator P.V.F. Le Claire was proposed by Senator W. Kinnard

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains of St. Clement was proposed by Deputy F.J. Hill, B.E.M., of St. Martin

THE STATES, having proceeded to a secret ballot, were advised of the following results by the Bailiff -

Deputy D.L. Crespel of Trinity 4 2

D e p u ty J.J. Huet of St. Helier  4 1  

D e p u ty J.G. Reed of St. Ouen  3 8  

D e p u ty J.L. Dorey of St. Helier  3 7

D e p u ty G.C.L. Baudains 1 9 S e n at or P.V.F. Le Claire 1 5

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the following had been elected members of the Housing Committee -

Deputy D.L. Crespel of Trinity D e p u ty J.J. Huet of St. Helier

D e p u ty J.L. Dorey of St. Helier D e p u ty J.G. Reed of St. Ouen

HARBOURS AND AIRPORT COMMITTEE

Senator L. Norman, President of the Harbours and Airport Committee, proposed for appointment as members of the Harbours and Airport Committee -

Connétable J.B. Germain of St. Martin

C o n n étable M.R. de la Haye of St. Brelade

Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Saviour

D e p u ty C.H. Egré of St. Peter

Senator J.A. Le Maistre was proposed by Senator C.G.P. Lakeman

THE STATES, having proceeded to a secret ballot, were advised of the following results by the Bailiff -

Connétable J.B. Germain of St. Martin 4 6

D e p u ty C.H. Egré of St. Peter 4 5

Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Saviour 4 1  

C o n n étable M.R. de la Haye of St. Brelade 3 6

Senator J.A. Le Maistre   2 4  

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the following had been elected members of the Harbours and Airport Committee -

Connétable J.B. Germain of St. Martin

C o n n étable M.R. de la Haye of St. Brelade

Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Saviour

D e p u ty C.H. Egré of St. Peter

TELECOMMUNICATIONS BOARD

THE STATES in accordance with Article 28(2)(b) of the States of Jersey Law 1966, and on a proposition of Senator P.F. Routier, President of the Telecommunications Board, determined that the Telecommunications Board should consist of the President and two other elected members of the States, proposed by the President as follows -

Deputy D.L. Crespel of Trinity

D e p u ty F.J. Hill B.E.M., of St. Martin

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the above had been elected members of the Telecommunications Board. COMMITTEE FOR POSTAL ADMINISTRATION

THE STATES in accordance with Article 28(2)(b) of the States of Jersey Law 1966, and on a proposition of Deputy P.J.D. Ryan of St. Helier , President of the Committee for Postal Administration, determined that the Committee for Postal Administration should consist of the President and five other elected members of the States, proposed by the President as follows -

Senator T.A. Le Sueur

Connétable P.F. Ozouf of St. Saviour Deputy J.J. Huet of St. Helier

D e p u ty P.J. Rondel of St. John

D e p u ty R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the above had been elected members of the Telecommunications Board. LEGISLATION COMMITTEE

THE STATES in accordance with Article 28(2)(b) of the States of Jersey Law 1966, and on a proposition of Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour , President of the Legislation Committee, determined that the Legislation Committee should consist of the President and five other elected members of the States, proposed by the President as follows -

Senator C.G.P. Lakeman Connétable D.F. Gray of St. Clement Deputy J-A Bridge of St. Helier

D e p u ty G.J. Grime of St. Mary

Deputy G.W.J. de Faye of St. Helier

Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier was proposed by Senator P.V.F. Le Claire

THE STATES, having proceeded to a secret ballot, were advised of the following results by the Bailiff -

Connétable D.F. Gray of St. Clement 4 5  

D e p u ty G.W.J. de Faye of St. Helier 4 5  

Senator C.G.P. Lakeman   4 4   Deputy J-A Bridge of St. Helier 4 2

D e p u ty G.J. Grime of St. Mary 3 9

Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier   1 5  

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the following had been elected members of the Legislation Committee -

Senator C.G.P. Lakeman Connétable D.F. Gray of St. Clement Deputy J-A Bridge of St. Helier

D e p u ty G.W.J. de Faye of St. Helier

Deputy G.J. Grime of St. Mary

OVERSEAS AID COMMITTEE

Deputy J.J.Huet, President of the Overseas Aid Committee, proposed for appointment as members of the Overseas Aid Committee -

Connétable F.H. Amy of Grouville

C o n n étable J.B. Germain of St. Martin

Deputy T.J. Le Main of St. Helier

D e p u ty P.N. Troy of St. Brelade

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the above had been elected members of the Overseas Aid Committee. SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON THE COMPOSITION AND ELECTION OF THE STATES ASSEMBLY

THE STATES in accordance with Article 28(2)(b) of the States of Jersey Law 1966, and on a proposition of Senator C.G.P. Lakeman, President of the Special Committee on the Composition and Election of the States Assembly, determined that the Special Committee on the Composition and Election of the States Assembly should consist of the President and six other elected members of the States, proposed by the President as follows -

Connétable D.F. Gray of St. Clement

Deputy F.J. Hill B.E.M., of St. Martin D e p u ty C.J. Scott Warr en of St. Saviour D e p u ty R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour D e p u ty J-A Bridge of St. Helier

D e p u ty J.A. Bernstein of St. Brelade

The Bailiff accordingly declared that the above had been elected members of the Special Committee on the Composition and Election of the States Assembly.

Compliments of the season

The Bailiff wished the members of the States and their families a Merry Christmas and a Peaceful New Year. Senator Jean Amy Le Maistre, on behalf of the Senators, the Connétable of St.  Martin (in the absence of the senior Connétable , the Connétable of Grouville ) on behalf of the Connétable s, and the Deputy of Trinity , on behalf of the Deputies, wished the Bailiff and Lady Bailhache , the Law Officers and the officers of the States, the compliments of the season.

THE STATES rose at 1.30 p.m.

M.N. DE LA HAYE Greffier of the States.