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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 7th November 2007, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff ,
Mr. Michael Cameron St. John Birt Esquire.
All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
S e nator Frank Harris on Walker – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.52 a.m.)
S e nator Terence John Le Main – en défaut
S e nator Frederick Ellyer Cohen – ill
C o nnétable Thomas John du Feu of St. Peter – excused (arrived in the Chamber at 9.47 a.m.)
Prayers
Goods and Services Tax: petition – P.125/2007
THE STATES, having resumed consideration of the proposition of the Connétable of St. Helier entitledGoods and Services Tax: petition – P.125/2007', rejected the proposal that the Minister for Treasury and Resources should be requested to take no further steps to introduce a Goods and Services Tax in Jersey until public finances had been examined independently to identify potential savings and until alternative methods of raising funds had been investigated.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 23 CONTRE: 28 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Senator L. Norman
Senator B.E. Shenton Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy A. Breckon (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy D.W. Mezbourian
(L)
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Senator F.H. Walker Senator W. Kinnard
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E. Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H)
Deputy of St. John Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Draft Price and Charge Indicators (Jersey) Law 200- P. 149/2007
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Price and Charge Indicators (Jersey) Law 200-, and adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 37 CONTRE: 10 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator L. Norman
Senator F.H. Walker
Senator W. Kinnard
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator M.E. Vibert
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H)
Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy D.W. Mezbourian
(L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. Mary
Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Martin Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
THE STATES adopted Article 1.
THE STATES adopted Article 2.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 34 CONTRE: 6 ABSTAIN: 1
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains Senator L. Norman Connétable of St. Martin (C)
Senator F.H. Walker Deputy A. Breckon (S)
Senator W. Kinnard Deputy P.N. Troy (B)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Senator P.F. Routier Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B)
Senator M.E. Vibert Deputy of St. Ouen
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator J.L. Perchard
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Saviour
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy J.J. Huet (H)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. Mary
THE STATES, having adopted Articles 3 to 9, and subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Price and Charge Indicators (Jersey) Law 200-.
In accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(b), the Connétable of St. Brelade and Deputy Paul Vincent Francis Le Claire of St. Helier declared an interest but remained in the Chamber for the duration of th debate.
Draft Goods and Services Tax (Jersey) Law 2007 (Appointed Day) Act 200- P. 121/2007
THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 102 of the Goods and Services Tax (Jersey) Law 2007, made an Act
entitled the Goods and Services Tax (Jersey) Law 2007 (Appointed Day) Act 2007. Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 29 CONTRE: 9 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator F.H. Walker Senator W. Kinnard Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E. Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator J.L. Perchard
Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy J.J. Huet (H)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy P.N. Troy (B)
Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. Mary
Senator L. Norman
Senator B.E. Shenton Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L)
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Draft Financial Services (Amendment of Law) (No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 200- P. 114/2007
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Financial Services (Amendment of Law) (No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 200- and adopted the principles.
THE STATES adopted Articles 1 to 5.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 29 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 1
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains Senator F.H. Walker (C)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator M.E. Vibert
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy P.N. Troy (B)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. Mary
THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 4 of the Financial Services (Jersey) Law 1998, made Regulations entitled the Financial Services (Amendment of Law) (No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 2007.
Draft Collective Investment Funds (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Law 200- P.139/2007
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law, as amended, entitled the Collective Investment Funds (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Law 200-.
Draft Banking Business (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Law 200- P.136/2007
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Banking Business (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Law 200-.
Draft Insurance Business (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Law 200- P. 137/2007
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Insurance Business (Amendment No. 6) (Jersey) Law 200-.
Draft Financial Services (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Law 200- P. 138/2007
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Financial Services (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Law 200-.
Draft Criminal Justice (International Co-operation) (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 200- P.134/2007 THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Criminal Justice (International Co-operation) (Amendment) (Jersey Law 200-.
Draft Proceeds of Crime (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 200- P. 129/2007
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Proceeds of Crime (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 200-.
Draft Drug Trafficking (Offences) (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 200- P.128/2007
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Drug Trafficking (Offences) (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 200-.
Arrangement of public business for the present meeting
THE STATES rejected a proposition of the Deputy of St. Mary that the Assembly should adjourn for 10 minute and then reconvene to consider the outstanding items of public business.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 15 CONTRE: 27 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator M.E. Vibert Connétable of St. Clement Deputy J.J. Huet (H)
Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy D.W. Mezbourian
(L)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. Mary
Senator L. Norman
Senator F.H. Walker Senator W. Kinnard
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy P.N. Troy (B)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
THE STATES rejected a proposition of Deputy Jacqueline Jeanette Huet of St. Helier that the Assembly should
adjourn and reconvene the following day.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 19 CONTRE: 22 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Clement Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H)
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H) Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. Mary
Senator L. Norman
Senator F.H. Walker Senator W. Kinnard
Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E. Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy P.N. Troy (B)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy of St. John
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Draft Terrorism (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 200- P. 131/2007
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Terrorism (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 200-.
Draft Corruption (Amendment of Definitions) (Jersey) Regulations 200- P. 130/2007
THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 2(2), 3(2) and 4(2) of the Corruption (Jersey) Law 2006, made Regulations entitled the Corruption (Amendment of Definitions) (Jersey) Regulations 2007.
Arrangement of public business for the present meeting
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Senator Frank Harris on Walker , agreed to defer all of the remaining items of public business to the next meeting on 20th November 2007, with the exception of P.124/2007.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 32 CONTRE: 7 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator F.H. Walker Senator L. Norman
Senator W. Kinnard Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Senator P.F. Routier Deputy of St. Martin
Senator M.E. Vibert Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy D.W. Mezbourian Senator P.F.C. Ozouf (L)
Senator B.E. Shenton Deputy of Trinity Senator J.L. Perchard Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Saviour
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C)
Deputy P.N. Troy (B)
Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy of St. Mary
Crime (Sentences) Act 1997: extension to Jersey – P.124/2007
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chief Minister agreed, in accordance with the provisions of Article 31 of the States of Jersey Law 2005, that Section 41 and Schedule 1 and Section 56(2) and Schedule 6 the Crime (Sentences) Act 1997 (so far as relating to the repeal of Part III of the Criminal Justice Act 1961), should extend to Jersey.
Arrangement of public business for future meetings
THE STATES agreed the following arrangement of public business for future meetings proposed, as amended, by the Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 88 (3) –
20th November 2007
Draft Income Tax (Amendment No. 29) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.156/2007. Lodged: 9th October 2007.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Income Tax (Amendment No. 29) (Jersey) Law 200- (P.156/2007): amendments. P.156/2007. Lodged: 2nd November 2007. Amd. Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.
Draft Income Tax (Deemed Dividends) (Jersey) Regulations 200-. P.157/2007.
Lodged: 9th October 2007.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Criminal Justice Policy – audit of the need for a prosecution service. P.161/2007. Lodged: 19th October 2007.
Deputy of St. Martin.
Criminal Justice Policy. P.118/2007. Lodged: 4th September 2007.
Minister for Home Affairs.
Criminal Justice Policy (P.118/2007): amendment. P.118/2007. Lodged: 23rd October 2007. Amd. Deputy of St. Martin.
Goods and Services Tax: Zero-Rating for Foodstuffs, Books, Newspapers and P.169/2007. Magazines.
Lodged: 26th October 2007.
Senator B.E. Shenton.
Draft Crime (Transnational Organized Crime) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.132/2007. Lodged: 24th September 2007.
Minister for Home Affairs.
Draft Crime (Transnational Organized Crime) (Jersey) Law 200- (P.132/2007): P.132/2007. amendments. Amd. Lodged: 23rd October 2007.
Minister for Home Affairs.
Draft Proceeds of Crime (Cash Seizure) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.133/2007. Lodged: 24th September 2007.
Minister for Home Affairs.
Draft Civil Asset Recovery (International Co-operation) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.135/2007. Lodged: 25th September 2007.
Minister for Home Affairs.
Draft Marriage and Civil Status (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.120/2007. Lodged: 7th September 2007.
Minister for Home Affairs.
Draft Loi (1939) sur les honoraires des Avocats et des Écrivains (Repeal) (Jersey) Law P.126/2007. 200-.
Lodged: 18th September 2007.
Chief Minister.
Draft Electricity Link with France (Protection of Submarine Cable) (Jersey) P.142/2007. Regulations 200-.
Lodged: 25th September 2007.
Minister for Economic Development.
Draft Community Provisions (Ship and Port Facility – Security) (Amendment) (Jersey) P.144/2007. Regulations 200-.
Lodged: 26th September 2007.
Minister for Economic Development.
Health Insurance Exemption cards: free bus travel and Active cards. P.145/2007. Lodged: 26th September 2007.
Health, Social Security and Housing Scrutiny Panel.
Health Insurance Exemption cards: free bus travel and Active cards (P.145/2007) – P.145/2007. comments. Com. Presented: 6th November 2007.
Minister for Transport and Technical Services.
Draft Public Library (Jersey) Regulations 200-. P.146/2007. Lodged: 3rd October 2007.
Minister for Education, Sport and Culture.
Draft Places of Refreshment (Jersey) Regulations 200-. P.148/2007. Lodged: 4th October 2007.
Minister for Economic Development.
Draft Amendment (No. 7) of the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey. P.151/2007. Lodged: 9th October 2007.
Chairmen's Committee.
Draft States of Jersey (Implementation) (Jersey) Regulations 200-. P.152/2007. Lodged: 9th October 2007.
Chief Minister.
Energy from Waste Facility: Public Enquiry. P.159/2007. Lodged: 15th October 2007.
Connétable of St. Helier.
4th December 2007
Budget 2008. P.164/2007. Lodged: 23rd October 2007.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Budget 2008 (P.164/2007): amendment. P.164/2007. Lodged: 6th November 2007. Amd. Deputy A. Breckon of St. Saviour.
Draft Finance (Jersey) Law 200-. P.165/2007. Lodged: 23rd October 2007.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Income Tax (Amendment No. 30) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.166/2007. Lodged: 23rd October 2007.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Public Finances (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.167/2007. Lodged: 23rd October 2007.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Harbours (Administration) (Amendment No. 7) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.160/2007. Lodged: 16th October 2007.
Minister for Economic Development.
Draft Amendment (No. 8) of the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey. P.162/2007.
Lodged: 23rd October 2007. Senator M.E. Vibert .
Draft Amendment (No. 32) to the Tariff of Harbour and Light Dues. P.163/2007. Lodged: 23rd October 2007.
Minister for Economic Development.
15th January 2008
Island Plan 2002: H4 Site No. 15, Samarès Nursery, St. Clement and future P.95/2007. amendments to the Island Plan.
Lodged: 20th July 2007.
Deputy I.J. Gorst of St. Clement.
Island Plan 2002: H4 Site No. 15, Samarès Nursery, St. Clement and future P.95/2007. Com. amendments to the Island Plan (P.95/2007): comments.
Presented: 23rd October 2007.
Minister for Planning and Environment.
JT Group Limited ("Jersey Telecom"): proposed sale. P.153/2007 Lodged: 9th October 2007.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
JT Group Limited ("Jersey Telecom"): proposed sale (P.153/2007) – amendment. P.153/2007. Lodged: 26th October 2007. Amd. Senator B.E. Shenton.
Draft Health and Safety at Work (Asbestos – Licensing) (Jersey) Regulations 200-. P.168/2007. Lodged: 25th October 2007.
Minister for Social Security.
Draft Gambling (Remote Gambling Disaster Recovery) (Jersey) Regulations 200-. P.170/2007. Lodged: 31st October 2007.
Minister for Economic Development.
12th February 2008
Draft Proceeds of Crime (Substitution of Schedule 2) (Jersey) Regulations 200-. P.127/2007. Lodged: 24th September 2007.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
THE STATES rose at 6.08 p.m.
M.N. DE LA HAYE Greffier of the States