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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 10th September 2008, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of
Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye,
Greffier of the States.
All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
S enator Frederick Ellyer Cohen – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.58 a.m.)
C onnétable Kenneth Alan Le Brun of St. Mary – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.11 a.m.) Deputy Peter Nicholas Troy of St. Brelade – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.11 a.m.) Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.58 a.m.) Deputy Patrick John Dennis Ryan of St. Helier – ill
Deputy Guy William John de Faye of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.58 a.m.) Deputy Alan John Henry Maclean of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.58 a.m.)
Prayers
Documents presented or laid
Annual Business Plan 2009 (P.113/2008): eleventh amendment (P.113/2008 Amd. P.113/2008. (11)) – comments. Amd.(11). Presented: 10th September 2008. Com.(2). Minister for Planning and Environment.
Meetings of the States in 2009. R.96/2008. Presented: 10th September 2008.
Privileges and Procedures Committee.
Jersey Appointments Commission: Annual Report for 2007. R.97/2008. Presented: 10th September 2008.
Chief Minister.
Goods and Services Tax: exemption or zero-rating for foodstuffs and domestic energy P.103/2008
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of the Deputy of Grouville concerning the exemption or zero-rating for foodstuffs and domestic energy from Goods and Services Tax and rejected an amendment of Senator Leonard Norman that in paragraph (a), sub-paragraph (i) the words"in line with United Kingdom Value Added Tax arrangements as set out in the Appendix" should be deleted.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 17 CONTRE: 28 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator L. Norman
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Brelade Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Senator S. Syvret Senator W. Kinnard Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator M.E. Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator B.E. Shenton Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Senator Leonard Norman that in paragraph (a), sub-paragraph (ii) the word "domestic" should be deleted and after the word "energy" the words "and fuel" inserted.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 6 CONTRE: 35 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator L. Norman Connétable of St. Brelade Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Senator S. Syvret Senator W. Kinnard Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H)
Deputy of St. Martin Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. Mary
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Senator Leonard Norman that in paragraph (a), sub-paragraph (ii) the following new sub-paragraph should be inserted –
"(iii) water;
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 8 CONTRE: 34 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator L. Norman Connétable of St. Clement Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L)
Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Senator S. Syvret Senator F.H. Walker Senator W. Kinnard Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E. Vibert
Senator T.J. Le Main Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. Mary
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Senator Leonard Norman that in paragraph (a), sub-paragraph (ii) the following new sub-paragraph should be inserted –
(iv) newspapers, books and magazines."
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 12 CONTRE: 30 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Senator L. Norman Connétable of St. Clement Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L)
Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Senator F.H. Walker Senator W. Kinnard Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E. Vibert
Senator T.J. Le Main Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. Mary
THE STATES rejected a proposition of Deputy Shona Pitman of St. Helier that in paragraph (a) after sub- paragraph (ii) the following new sub-paragraph should be inserted–
(*) school uniforms.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 11 CONTRE: 36 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Senator F.E. Cohen
Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L)
Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Senator F.H. Walker Senator W. Kinnard Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier
Senator M.E. Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. Mary
THE STATES resumed consideration of a proposition of the Deputy of Grouville concerning the exemption or zero-rating for foodstuffs and domestic energy from Goods and Services Tax.
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 11th September 2008, to continue consideration of the proposition of the Deputy of Grouville concerning the exemption or zero-rating of foodstuffs and domestic energy from Goods and Services Tax and the outstanding items of public business.
THE STATES rose at 5.30 p.m.
A.H. HARRIS Deputy Greffier of the States