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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 2nd December 2008, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,
Sir Philip Bailhache .
His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, Lieutenant-General Andrew Peter Ridgway, C.B., C.B.E., was present.
All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
S e nator Wendy Kinnard – excused
C o nnétable Thomas John du Feu of St. Peter – excused (arrived in the Chamber at 2.15 p.m.) D e puty Peter Nicholas Troy of St. Brelade – en défaut (défaut raised at 12.05 p.m.)
D e puty Collin Hedley Egré of St. Peter – excused (arrived in the Chamber at 11.33 a.m.)
Prayers
Tribute to the late Mr. Ralph Vibert , O.B.E, former member of the States
The Bailiff paid tribute to the late Mr. Ralph Vibert , O.B.E,former Senator, who served as a Member of the States for 30 years.
The States observed one minute's silence as a mark of respect.
Subordinate enactments tabled
The following enactments were tabled, namely –
Planning and Building (Public Inquiries) (Jersey) Order 2008. R&O.137/2008. Minister for Planning and Environment.
Prison (Amendment) (Jersey) Rules 2008. R&O.138/2008. Minister for Home Affairs.
Legitimacy (Amendment) Rules 2008. R&O.139/2008. Superior Number of the Royal Court.
Advocates and Solicitors (Qualifying Examination) (Amendment No. 4) Rules R&O.140/2008. 2008.
Superior Number of the Royal Court.
Road Traffic (St. Lawrence) (Amendment No. 21) (Jersey) Order 2008. R&O.141/2008. Minister for Transport and Technical Services.
Money Laundering (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Order 2008. R&O.142/2008. Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Amendment (No. 33) to the Tariff of Harbour and Light Dues. R&O.143/2008. Minister for Economic Development.
Non-Profit Organizations (Amendment) (Jersey) Order 2008. R&O.144/2008. Minister for Economic Development.
Excise Duty (Relief and Drawback) (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Order 2008. R&O.145/2008. Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Money Laundering (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Order 2008. R&O.146/2008. Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Insurance Business (Appointment of Manager) (Jersey) Order 2008. R&O.147/2008. Minister for Economic Development.
Banking Business (Appointment of Manager) (Jersey) Order 2008. R&O.148/2008. Minister for Economic Development.
Financial Services (Appointment of Manager) (Jersey) Order 2008. R&O.149/2008. Minister for Economic Development.
Collective Investment Funds (Appointment of Manager) (Jersey) Order 2008. R&O.150/2008. Minister for Economic Development.
Companies (General Provisions) (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Order 2008. R&O.151/2008. Minister for Economic Development.
Documents presented or laid
Draft Budget Statement 2009 (P.158/2008): second amendment (P.158/2008 Amd.(2)) – P.158/2008. comments. Amd.(2). Presented: 1st December 2008. Com. Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Budget Statement 2009 (P.158/2008): second amendment (P.158/2008 Amd.(2)) – P.158/2008. comments. Amd.(2). Presented: 1st December 2008. Com.(2) Minister for Social Security.
Draft Budget Statement 2009 (P.158/2008): third amendment (P.158/2008 Amd.(3)) – P.158/2008. comments. Amd.(3). Presented: 1st December 2008. Com. Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Budget Statement 2009 (P.158/2008): fourth amendment (P.158/2008 Amd.(4)) – P.158/2008. comments. Amd.(4). Presented: 1st December 2008. Com. Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Income Tax (Amendment No. 32) (Jersey) Law 200- (P.161/2008): comments. P.161/2008. Presented: 25th November 2008. Com. Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.
Draft Firearms (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 200- (P.162/2008): third amendment P.162/2008. (P.162/2008 Amd.(3)) – comments. Amd.(3). Presented: 2nd December 2008. Com. Minister for Home Affairs.
Income Support and GST food costs bonus: additional funding (P.163/2008) – P.163/2008. amendment (P.163/2008 Amd.) – comments. Amd.Com. Presented: 1st December 2008.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Income Support and GST food costs bonus: additional funding (P.163/2008) – P.163/2008. amendment (P.163/2008 Amd.) – comments. Amd.Com.(2) Presented: 1st December 2008.
Minister for Social Security.
Speed Limits: creation of a review working group (P.166/2008) – comments. P.166/2008. Presented: 1st December 2008. Com. Minister for Transport and Technical Services.
Traditional delivery of Christmas addresses (P.168/2008): comments. P.168/2008. Presented: 18th November 2008. Com. Privileges and Procedures Committee.
Committee of Inquiry into Fields 848, 851 and 853, Bel Royal, St. Lawrence: Final R.101/2008. Report (R.101/2008) – response of the Minister for Planning and Environment. Rpt. Presented: 20th November 2008.
Minister for Planning and Environment.
Children: Regulation of Employment – Green Paper October 2008. R.111/2008. Presented: 24th October 2008.
Minister for Health and Social Services.
Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – Seymour Inn Car Park, La Grande R.112/2008. Route des Sablons, Grouville – Gift to the Public by La Rocque Developments Limited.
Presented: 24th October 2008.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – former La Pouquelaye School, R.113/2008. Le Hurel, St. Helier– proposed 21 year lease to the Centre Point Trust.
Presented: 28th October 2008.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Jersey Employment Tribunal: annual report for the period 1st July 2007 to 30th June R.114/2008. 2008.
Presented: 30th October 2008.
Minister for Social Security.
Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – R.115/2008.
- No. 34 Clos duRuisseau, La Grande Route de St. Martin, St. Martin,JE3 6U–U
lease;
- La Grève d'Azette/Green Road – purchaseof land.
Presented: 5th November 2008.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
The Comptroller and Auditor General's Programme 2008–2010: Consultation R.116/2008. document.
Presented: 7th November 2008.
Comptroller and Auditor General.
The Comptroller and Auditor General's Programme 2008–2010: Consultation R.117/2008. document – Annex – Assessment of financial management.
Presented: 7th November 2008.
Comptroller and Auditor General.
The Comptroller and Auditor General's Annual Report for the period from 1st January R.118/2008. 2007 to 30th June 2008.
Presented: 7th November 2008.
Comptroller and Auditor General.
States Members' Remuneration: recommendations for 2009. R.119/2008. Presented: 18th November 2008.
Privileges and Procedures Committee.
States of Jersey Law 2005: delegation of functions – Planning and Environment – R.120/2008. revised delegations.
Presented: 20th November 2008.
Minister for Planning and Environment.
Public Finances (Jersey) Law 2005: financial planning disclosures for the 6 month R.121/2008. period ended 30th June 2008.
Presented: 26th November 2008.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Waterfront Enterprise Board Limited: Review of Corporate Governance – Final Report R.122/2008. of the Comptroller and Auditor General.
Presented: 26th November 2008.
Comptroller and Auditor General.
States owned companies: accountability – Final Report of the Comptroller and Auditor R.123/2008. General.
Presented: 26th November 2008.
Comptroller and Auditor General.
Long term care of the elderly. S.R.12/2008. Presented: 2nd December 2008.
Health, Social Security and Housing Scrutiny Panel.
Review of States of Jersey Financial Forecasting. S.R.13/2008. Presented: 2nd December 2008.
Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.
Notification of lodged propositions
Draft Budget Statement 2009 (P.158/2008): amendment. P.158/2008. Lodged: 18th November 2008. Amd. Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Budget Statement 2009 (P.158/2008): second amendment. P.158/2008. Lodged: 18th November 2008. Amd.(2). Deputy S.C. Ferguson of St. Brelade.
Draft Budget Statement 2009 (P.158/2008): third amendment. P.158/2008. Lodged: 18th November 2008. Amd.(3).
Deputy of St. Ouen.
Draft Budget Statement 2009 (P.158/2008): fourth amendment. P.158/2008. Lodged: 18th November 2008. Amd.(4). Deputy of St. Ouen.
Draft Budget Statement 2009 (P.158/2008): fifth amendment. P.158/2008. Lodged: 1st December 2008. Amd.(5) Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Finance (2009 Budget) (Jersey) Law 200- (P.159/2008): amendment. P.159/2008. Lodged: 18th November 2008. Amd. Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Income Tax (Amendment No. 31) (Jersey) Law 200- (P.160/2008): amendment. P.160/2008. Presented: 24th November 2008. Amd. Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Firearms (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 200- (P.162/2008): amendment. P.162/2008. Lodged: 11th November 2008. Amd. Minister for Home Affairs.
Draft Firearms (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 200- (P.162/2008): second P.162/2008. amendment. Amd.(2). Lodged: 11th November 2008.
Comité des Connétable s.
Draft Firearms (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 200- (P.162/2008): third amendment. P.162/2008. Lodged: 11th November 2008. Amd.(3). Deputy of St. Martin.
Draft Firearms (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 200- (P.162/2008): third amendment P.162/2008. (P.162/2008 Amd.(3)) – comments. Amd.(3). Presented: 2nd December 2008. Com. Minister for Home Affairs.
Income Support and GST food costs bonus: additional funding (P.163/2008) – P.163/2008. amendment. Amd. Lodged: 18th November 2008.
Deputy S.C. Ferguson of St. Brelade.
Draft Income Support (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Regulations 200- (P.165/2008): P.165/2008. amendment. Amd. Lodged: 19th November 2008.
Deputy S.C. Ferguson of St. Brelade.
Speed Limits: creation of a review working group. P.166/2008. Lodged: 27th October 2008.
Deputy I.J. Gorst of St. Clement.
Statutory Nuisances Law: review. P.167/2008. Lodged: 31st October 2008.
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire of St. Helier.
Traditional delivery of Christmas addresses. P.168/2008. Lodged: 31st October 2008.
Senator S. Syvret.
Draft Employment Tribunal (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 200-. P.169/2008. Lodged: 4th November 2008.
Minister for Social Security.
Draft Health and Safety at Work (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.170/2008. Lodged: 4th November 2008.
Minister for Social Security.
Ratification of the Agreement for the Exchange of Information Relating to Tax Matters P.171/2008. between the Federal Republic of Germany and the States of Jersey.
Lodged: 4th November 2008.
Chief Minister.
Draft Taxation (Exchange of Information with Third Countries) (Amendment) (Jersey) P.172/2008. Regulations 200-.
Lodged: 4th November 2008.
Chief Minister.
Draft Civil Aviation (Jersey) Law 2008 (Appointed Day) Act 200-. P.173/2008. Lodged: 18th November 2008.
Chief Minister.
Draft Gender Recognition (Jersey) Law 200-. P.174/2008. Lodged: 25th November 2008.
Chief Minister.
Draft Protection of Children (Restriction on Supply of Goods) (Jersey) Law 200-. P.175/2008. Lodged: 27th November 2008.
Minister for Economic Development.
Draft Public Employees (Contributory Retirement Scheme) (Existing Members) P.176/2008. (Amendment No. 10) (Jersey) Regulations 200-.
Lodged: 2nd December 2008.
Chief Minister.
Draft Public Employees (Contributory Retirement Scheme) (New Members) P.177/2008. (Amendment No. 13) (Jersey) Regulations 200-.
Lodged: 2nd December 2008.
Chief Minister.
Withdrawal of lodged propositions
THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the proposer of the following proposition lodged "au Greffe" had informed the Greffier of the States that it had been withdrawn –
Rental Deposit Scheme to Protect Tenants' Deposits. P.137/2008. Lodged: 29th August 2008.
Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier.
Written Questions
(see Official Report/Hansard)
The Chief Minister tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire of St. Helier regarding the lease agreement for the Waterfront Hotel.
The Minister for Home Affairs tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy S.S.P.A. Power of St. Brelade regarding the cost of historic child abuse enquiry.
The Minister for Education, Sport and Culture tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy S.S.P.A. Power of St. Brelade regarding the operational costs of the ferry service to Elizabeth Castle.
The Minister for Social Security tabled an answer to a question asked by Senator B.E. Shenton regarding the Social Security (Reserve) Fund.
The Minister for Planning and Environment tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy G.C.L. Baudains of St. Clement regarding the tangible benefits of the Water Resources (Jersey) Law 2007.
The Chief Minister tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier regarding the Waterfront development.
The Minister for Treasury and Resources tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier regarding Jersey's economy.
The Minister for Housing tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier regarding efforts to assist local families to purchase homes in the Island.
The Minister for Economic Development tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier regarding financial aid for the Finance and Tourism sectors.
The Minister for Economic Development tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier regarding measures to maintain the services of low cost airlines.
The Chief Minister tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour regarding the annual cost of employing consultants.
The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour regarding the Howard League.
The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour regarding staff suspensions.
The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour regarding the impact of the continued suspension of the Director of Family Nursing and Home Care.
The Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour regarding election reforms.
Oral Questions
(see Official Report/Hansard)
The Deputy of St. Martin asked a question of the Minister for Home Affairs regarding the processing of firearms applications.
The Connétable of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social Services regardingthe funding arrangements between Health and Social Services and Family Nursing and Home Care.
Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Social Security regardingadditional funding required for the wide range of "adjustments" made to the Income Support scheme.
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains of St. Clement asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social Services regarding composting at La Collette.
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power of St. Brelade asked a question of the Minister for Economic Development regarding the current status of the grant from the Tourism Development Fund which was awarded to develop an adventure centre at Les Ormes, St. Brelade.
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Economic Development regarding the potential importation of construction workers for the Waterfront Development.
Deputy R.C. Duhamel of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Transport and Technical Services regarding the availability of bus passenger figures for the period 2005 – 2007.
Senator S. Syvret asked a question of the Minister for Education, Sport and Culture regarding the number of present or former Education, Sport and Culture Department employees known to be under investigation by the Police in connection with possible child protection offences.
The Deputy of St. Martin asked a question of the Assistant Minister for Treasury and Resources regarding the reinstatement of the Haut de la Garenne site.
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Treasury and Resources regarding the concerns of the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer in relation to Crown Dependencies.
Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Treasury and Resources regarding the range of fiscal measures under consideration should the recession in the UK impact upon Jersey.
The Connétable of Grouville asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding the involvement of the members of the Waterfront Enterprise Board or members of staff (past or present) in the recent Court case in Dublin between Harcourt and Ivor Fitzpatrick.
Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Transport and Technical Services regarding improvements to pedestrian safety in the Longueville Road area of St. Saviour.
Deputy J.A. Martin of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Social Security regarding GST refunds.
Oral Questions without notice (see Official Report/Hansard)
The Minister for Housing answered questions without notice from members. The Chief Minister answered questions without notice from members.
Urgent Oral Question
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power of St. Brelade asked the following question of the Minister for Home Affairs which the Bailiff had allowed in accordance with Standing Order 15 relating to urgent oral questions –
" C an the Minister confirm whether the States of Jersey Police have received a complaint from a candidate in the St. Helier No. 2 poll and what investigations into voting irregularities in any Deputies elections are being carried out?"
Statements on a matter of official responsibility (see Official Report/Hansard)
The Chief Minister made a statement regarding a meeting with H.M. Treasury on 27th November 2008.
The Minister for Home Affairs made a statement regarding the suspension of the Chief Officer of the States of Jersey Police.
THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Article 9(4) of the Police Force (Jersey) Law 1974, the discussion of this matter had to take place in camera. In accordance with Standing Order 82, the Bailiff ordered all strangers to withdraw from the precincts of the States and the doors of the Chamber to be closed for the duration of the discussion.
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Connétable Alan Simon Crowcroft of St. Helier, agreedthat Standing Order 68(3) be suspended in order to remove the 10 minute time limit normally allowed during a meeting for questions, relating to the contents of a statement, to be asked and answered.
Senator S. Syvret asked a question of the Minister for Home Affairs regarding the suspension of the Chief Officer the States of Jersey Police and this was also dealt with in camera, in accordance with Article 9(4) of the Police Force (Jersey) Law 1974.
THE STATES, having concluded its discussions in camera, resumed public session.
The Chief Minister made a statement outlining the latest Tax Information Exchange Agreements (TIEAs).
Draft Budget Statement 2009 P.158/2008
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Budget Statement 2009.
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Sarah Craig Ferguson of St. Brelade that after the words"as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words "except that income tax exemption thresholds for the year of assessment 2009 shall be increased by 5.4% rather than by 5% as proposed by the Minister."
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 14 CONTRE: 31 ABSTAIN: 0
Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L)
Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Senator F.H. Walker Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E. Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator F.E. Cohen Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H) Deputy of St. Peter Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy of St. John Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Change of Presidency
The Bailiff retired briefly from the Chamber during consideration of the amendment of Deputy Sarah Craig Ferguson of St. Brelade and the meeting continued under the presidency of Mrs. Anne Helen Harris , Deputy Greffier of the States, until his return.
THE STATES commenced consideration of an amendment of the Deputy of St. Ouen and, having noted that in accordance with Standing Order 34(1) paragraph (a) had been withdrawn, rejected the amendment that after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the progressive withdrawal of income tax allowances and reliefs as part of the '20 means 20' proposals approved by the States on 18th July 2006 shall be suspended for one year with no withdrawal for the year of assessment 2009".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 19 CONTRE: 32 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator L. Norman Connétable of St. Mary Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L)
Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Senator F.H. Walker Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E. Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S)
Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy of St. John
THE STATES, adopting an amendment of the Deputy of St. Ouen, agreed that after the words"as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the full higher rate personal allowance in respect of children in higher education shall be given for the full year of assessment in which a child leaves higher education irrespective of any income earned by the child after graduation".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 34 CONTRE: 14 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator B.E. Shenton Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy A. Breckon (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy P.N. Troy (B) Deputy C.J. Scott Warr en (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy S.C. Ferguson (B) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy P.J.D. Ryan (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy D.W. Mezbourian (L)
Senator L. Norman
Senator F.H. Walker Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator M.E. Vibert Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.J. Huet (H) Deputy G.W.J. de Faye (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy A.J.D. Maclean (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Change of Presidency
The Bailiff retired from the Chamber during consideration of the amendment of Deputy Sarah Craig Ferguson of St. Brelade and the meeting continued under the presidency of Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, Greffier of th States.
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 3rd December 2008 to continue consideration of the Draft Budget Statement 2009 (P.158/2008), and the outstanding items of public business.
THE STATES rose at 5.35 p.m.
M.N. DE LA HAYE Greffier of the States