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States Minutes 2nd April 2009

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THE STATES assembled on Thursday 2nd April 2009, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of

Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, Greffier of the States. __________________

All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Stuart Syvret – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.57 a.m.)

Senator James Leslie Perchard – en défaut

Senator Alan Breckon – en défaut

Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.57 a.m.) Connétable Graeme Frank Butcher of St John – en défaut

Deputy Deborah Jane de Sousa of St. Helier – excused attendance

__________________

Prayers __________________

Ex gratia compensation payment: Mr. and Mrs. R. Pinel P.29/2009

THE STATES resumed consideration of a proposition of Senator Ben Edward Shenton concerning the payment of ex gratia compensation to Mr. and Mrs. R. Pinel, and rejected a proposition of Deputy Robert Charles Duhamel of St. Saviour that the Assembly move to the consideration of the next item on the Order Paper.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 8   CONTRE: 34  ABSTAIN: 2

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


 Senator S. Syvret

  Senator T.A. Le Sueur

  Senator P.F. Routier

  Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

  Senator T.J. Le Main

  Senator B.E. Shenton

  Senator F.E. Cohen

  Senator S.C. Ferguson

  Senator A.J.D. Maclean

  Connétable of St. Ouen

  Connétable of Trinity

  Connétable of Grouville

  Connétable of St. Brelade

  Connétable of St. Saviour

  Connétable of St. Clement

  Connétable of St. Peter

  Connétable of St. Lawrence   Deputy of St. Martin

  Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)   Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

  Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

  Deputy of St. Ouen


Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Mary

143   Price code: B

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

THE STATES rejected a proposition of Senator Ben Edward Shenton –

  1. to approve the making of an ex gratia payment of £297,469.59 to Mr. and Mrs. R. Pinel (Reg's Skips Limited) as compensation for costs incurred in defending the voisinage action brought against them as set out in the Appendix;
  2. to request the Chief Minister, in consultation with the Minister for Treasury and Resources, to make provision in the draft Annual Business Plan 2010 to meet the cost of the payment.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 17 CONTRE: 24 ABSTAIN: 5

Senator S. Syvret

Senator P.F. Routier Senator B.E. Shenton Connétable of St. Peter Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy of St. John

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


Senator T.A. Le Sueur

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator T.J. Le Main

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator A.J.D. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)


Senator F.E. Cohen Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Mary Deputy of Grouville Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Declaration of interest

Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade declared an interest and withdrew from the Chamber during consideration of the matter. In accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(b), the Connétable s of St. Martin and St. Mary , and Deputy John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré of St. Lawrence declared an interest not being of a direct financial nature, but remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate.

Arrangement of public business for present meeting

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Senator Stuart Syvret, agreed to defer consideration of the proposition of the Deputy of St. Martin entitled Police Complaints and Discipline: extension to Honorary Officers conducting Parish Hall Enquiries' (P.30/2009 lodged au Greffe' on 5th March 2009) until 28th April 2009.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 29 CONTRE: 18 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S. Syvret

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator T.J. Le Main Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator A.J.D. Maclean Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)


Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Arrangement of public business for future meetings

THE STATES agreed the following arrangement of public business for future meetings proposed, as amended, by the Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 88(3) –

28th April 2009

Police Complaints and Discipline: extension to Honorary Officers conducting Parish Hall  P.30/2009. Enquiries.

Lodged: 5th March 2009.

Deputy of St. Martin .

Police Complaints and Discipline: extension to Honorary Officers conducting Parish Hall  P.30/2009. Enquiries (P.30/2009) – comments.  Com. Presented: 30th March 2009.

H.M. Attorney General.

Code of Practice for Scrutiny Panels and the Public Accounts Committee: amendment.  P.31/2009. Lodged: 9th March 2009.

Chairmen's Committee.

Draft Sea Fisheries (Licensing of Fishing Boats) (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Regulations  P.35/2009. 200-.

Lodged: 10th March 2009.

Minister for Economic Development.

Draft Public Elections (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Regulations 200-.  P.36/2009. Lodged: 13th March 2009.

Comité des Connétable s.

Jersey Community Relations Trust: appointment of Trustee.  P.38/2009. Lodged: 19th March 2009.

Minister for Home Affairs.

Oral Questions with notice: extension to 2 hours.  P.40/2009. Lodged: 20th March 2009.

Deputy of St. Martin .

Electricity tariffs: Regulations under Article 22 of the Electricity (Jersey) Law 1937.  P.41/2009. Lodged: 24th March 2009.

Senator A. Breckon.

Suspension of States employees and States of Jersey Police Officers: revised procedures.  P.46/2009. Lodged: 31st March 2009.

Deputy of St. Martin .

Planning and Environment: division into 2 ministerial offices.  P.47/2009. Lodged: 1st April 2009.

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire of St. Helier .

12th May 2009

La Pouquelaye old school site: provision of youth and community facilities.  P.187/2008. Lodged: 24th December 2008.

Connétable of St. Helier .

Public Elections (Jersey) Law 2002: rescindment of Article 39A.  P.18/2009. Lodged: 4th February 2009.

Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .

Draft Health and Safety at Work (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Law 200-.  P.37/2009. Lodged: 17th March 2009.

Minister for Social Security.

Draft Loi (200-) (Amendement No. 11) réglant la procédure criminelle.  P.39/2009. Lodged: 19th March 2009.

Minister for Home Affairs.

Review of the roles of the Bailiff , Attorney General and Solicitor General: terms of  P.44/2009. reference.

Lodged: 31st March 2009.

Council of Ministers.

Draft Housing (General Provisions) (Amendment No. 26) (Jersey) Regulations 200-.  P.45/2009. Lodged: 31st March 2009.

Minister for Housing.

19th May 2009 2nd June 2009 16th June 2009

Natural gas pipeline: strategic study.  P.16/2009. Lodged: 29th January 2009.

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire of St. Helier .

Natural gas pipeline: strategic study (P.16/2009) – comments.  P.16/2009. Presented: 10th March 2009.  Com. Minister for Treasury and Resources.

30th June 2009

Williamson Report: Implementation Plan – funding.  P.17/2009. Lodged: 4th February 2009.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Williamson Report: Implementation Plan – funding (P.17/2009) – amendment.  P.17/2009. Lodged: 25th March 2009.  Amd. Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .

States Members' remuneration for 2009.  P.24/2009. Lodged: 19th February 2009.

Connétable of St. Peter .

States Members' remuneration for 2009 (P.24/2009): comments.  P.24/2009. Presented: 5th March 2009.  Com. Privileges and Procedures Committee.

States Members' remuneration for 2009 (P.24/2009): amendment.  P.24/2009. Lodged: 3rd March 2009.  Amd. Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire of St. Helier .

Ann Court Site, St. Helier : use for sheltered social housing for the over-55s.  P.43/2009. Lodged: 27th March 2009.

Deputy J.A. Martin of St. Helier .

THE STATES rose at 12.47 p.m.

A.H. HARRIS Deputy Greffier of the States