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States Minutes 3rd June 2009

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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 3rd June 2009, at 09.30 a.m. under

the Presidency of

Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, Greffier of the States. __________________

All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Terence John Le Main – en défaut

Senator Frederick Ellyer Cohen – ill

Connétable John Le Sueur Gallichan of Trinity – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.52 a.m.)

__________________

Prayers __________________

Notification of lodged propositions

Ratification of the Agreement for the exchange of information relating to tax matters  P.94/2009. between the States of Jersey and France.

Lodged: 3rd June 2009.

Chief Minister.

Ratification of the Agreement for the exchange of information relating to tax matters  P.95/2009. between the States of Jersey and Ireland.

Lodged: 3rd June 2009.

Chief Minister.

Ratification of the Agreement for the exchange of information relating to tax matters  P.96/2009. between the States of Jersey and the United Kingdom.

Lodged: 3rd June 2009.

Chief Minister.

Draft Taxation (Exchange of Information with Third Countries) (Amendment No. 3)  P.97/2009. (Jersey) Regulations 200-.

Lodged: 3rd June 2009.

Chief Minister.

Suspension of States Employees: Composition of Review Panel.  P.98/2009. Lodged: 3rd June 2009.

Deputy of St. Martin .

Withdrawal of lodged propositions

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the proposer of the following proposition lodged "au Greffe" had informed the Greffier of the States that it had been withdrawn –

La Pouquelaye old school site: provision of youth and community facilities.  P.187/2008. Lodged: 24th December 2008.

Connétable of St. Helier .

237   Price code: B

States Strategic Plan 2009 – 2014 P.52/2009

THE  STATES  resumed  consideration  of  the  States  Strategic  Plan  2009 – 2014  (P.52/2009) and an amendment of the Deputy of St. Mary that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words

", except that in Aim on page 7, before the first bullet point there should be inserted the following new bullet point –

"Maintain the overall population of the Island at its present level and make consequential changes in Priority 5 on page 17 by deleting the third bullet point in the section entitled Why we must do this' and the second and fourth bullet points in the section entitled What we will do'."

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Connétable of St. John , agreed, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 84, that the debate on the amendment of the Deputy of St. Mary to the Strategic Plan 2009-2014 be put to the vote.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 26 CONTRE: 18 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


Senator S. Syvret

Senator J.L. Perchard

Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator A.J.D. Maclean

Connétable of St. Helier

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy D. De Sousa (H)

THE STATES rejected an amendment of the Deputy of St. Mary that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words

", except that in Aim on page 7, before the first bullet point there should be inserted the following new bullet point –

"Maintain the overall population of the Island at its present level and make consequential changes in Priority 5 on page 17 by deleting the third bullet point in the section entitled Why we must do this' and the second and fourth bullet points in the section entitled What we will do'."

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 16   CONTRE: 34  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator S. Syvret   Senator T.A. Le Sueur   Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Senator A. Breckon   Senator P.F. Routier

Connétable of St. Lawrence   Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Deputy of St. Martin   Senator B.E. Shenton

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)   Senator J.L. Perchard

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)   Senator S.C. Ferguson

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)   Senator A.J.D. Maclean

Deputy of Grouville   Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)   Connétable of St. Ouen

Deputy S. Pitman (H)   Connétable of St. Helier

Deputy M. Tadier (B)   Connétable of Trinity

Deputy of St. Mary   Connétable of Grouville

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)   Connétable of St. Brelade

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)   Connétable of St. Martin

Deputy D. De Sousa (H)   Connétable of St. John

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)   Connétable of St. Saviour

  Connétable of St. Clement

  Connétable of St. Peter

  Connétable of St. Mary

  Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

  Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

  Deputy of St. Ouen

  Deputy of St. Peter

  Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

  Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)

  Deputy of Trinity

  Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

  Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

  Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

  Deputy of St. John

  Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

  Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

  Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

  Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

THE STATES, adopting an amendment of Deputy Paul Vincent Francis Le Claire of St. Helier , agreed that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words

", except that in Aim on page 7, in the fifth bullet point after the words "sound infrastructure" there should be inserted the words "and which embraces a progressive culture of openness, transparency and accountability to the public".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 42   CONTRE: 0  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –

", except that in the Priorities on page 8 –

  1. in the first introductory paragraph, after the words "will be delivered.", there should be inserted the words "The single overarching priority shall be to take concrete and measurable steps to actively promote the creation of a more equal society.";

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 15   CONTRE: 34  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S. Syvret

Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H)


 Senator T.A. Le Sueur

  Senator P.F. Routier

  Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

  Senator B.E. Shenton

  Senator J.L. Perchard

  Senator S.C. Ferguson

  Senator A.J.D. Maclean

  Senator B.I. Le Marquand

  Connétable of St. Ouen

  Connétable of Trinity

  Connétable of Grouville

  Connétable of St. Brelade

  Connétable of St. Martin

  Connétable of St. John

  Connétable of St. Saviour

  Connétable of St. Clement

  Connétable of St. Peter

  Connétable of St. Mary

  Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

  Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

  Deputy of St. Ouen

  Deputy of Grouville

  Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

  Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)   Deputy of Trinity

  Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

  Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

  Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

  Deputy of St. John

  Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

  Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

  Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

  Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

  Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES, adopting an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier , agreed that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –

", except that in the Priorities on page 8 –

  1. in the second paragraph, after the words "main aim of the Plan.", there should be inserted the words "In the application of these priorities, due attention must be paid to the creation of greater equality.";

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 41   CONTRE: 5  ABSTAIN: 2

Senator S. Syvret   Senator S.C. Ferguson  Senator P.F. Routier Senator T.A. Le Sueur   Connétable of Grouville   Deputy M. Tadier (B) Senator P.F.C. Ozouf   Connétable of St. Peter

Senator B.E. Shenton   Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Senator J.L. Perchard   Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Senator A. Breckon

Senator A.J.D. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Deputy D. De Sousa (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES, adopting an amendment of the Deputy of St. Mary , agreed that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words

", except that in Priority 1 on pages 10–11, in the section entitled "What we will do", after the last bullet point there should be inserted an additional bullet point as follows –

 Evaluate on an ongoing basis Peak Oil and Climate Change and report to the States once a year on their impacts on policy for Jersey".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 40   CONTRE: 4  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S. Syvret   Senator J.L. Perchard Senator T.A. Le Sueur   Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator P.F. Routier   Deputy of St. John Senator P.F.C. Ozouf   Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Senator B.E. Shenton

Senator A. Breckon

Senator A.J.D. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Deputy D. De Sousa (H)

THE STATES, adopting an amendment of the Connétable of St. Helier , agreed that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –

", except that in the list of Priorities on page 8 –

(a)  in  Priority 2,  before  the  word  "sustainable"  there  should  be  inserted  the  word "environmentally";

and consequential changes to the wording of the Priorities should be made where they appeared in other parts of the Plan."

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 40   CONTRE: 0  ABSTAIN: 2

Senator S. Syvret   Deputy M. Tadier (B) Senator T.A. Le Sueur   Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator B.E. Shenton

Senator J.L. Perchard

Senator A.J.D. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Deputy D. De Sousa (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy Sean Seamus Patrick Augustine Power of St. Brelade proposed that, in accordance with Standing Order 85(1), the States move to consideration of the next item on the Order Paper. The Presiding Officer ruled that, in accordance with Standing Order 85(2) such a proposition was an abuse of the procedure of the States and it was, therefore, disallowed.

THE STATES commenced consideration of an amendment of Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier , that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words

", except that in Priority 2 on pages 12–13, in the section entitled "What we will do", for the second bullet point, there should be substituted the following bullet point –

Lay the foundations for a genuinely diverse economy."

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 4th June 2009 to continue consideration of the States Strategic Plan 2009-2014 (P.52/2009).

THE STATES rose at 5.32 p.m.

A.H. HARRIS Deputy Greffier of the States