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THE STATES assembled on Thursday 4th June 2009, at 09.30 a.m. under
the Presidency of
Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, Greffier of the States. __________________
All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Stuart Syvret – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.56 a.m.) Senator Terence John Le Main – en défaut
Senator Frederick Ellyer Cohen – ill
Connétable Graeme Frank Butcher of St. John – excused attendance Connétable Leonard Norman of St. Clement – en défaut
Deputy Shona Pitman of St. Helier – ill
Deputy Ian Joseph Gorst of St. Clement – excused attendance
__________________
Prayers read by the Deputy Greffier of the States __________________
Notification of lodged propositions
Draft Court of Appeal (Amendment No. 8) (Jersey) Law 2008 (Appointed Day) Act 200-. P.99/2009. Lodged: 4th June 2009.
Chief Minister.
The Connétable of St. John – attendance
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Deputy of St. John , made in accordance with Standing Order 53(3), agreed that the reason for the absence of the Connétable of St. John was such that he should be excused attendance.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 36 CONTRE: 6 ABSTAIN: 3
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour
Senator A. Breckon
Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Mary Deputy of St. Mary
247 Price code: C
Connétable of St. Peter Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
States Strategic Plan 2009 – 2014 P.52/2009
THE STATES, resumed consideration of the States Strategic Plan 2009 – 2014 (P.52/2009), and adopting a proposition of Deputy Edward James Noel of St. Lawrence , agreed, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 84, that the debate on the amendment of Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier to the Strategic Plan 2009 – 2014 be put to the vote.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 24 CONTRE: 16 ABSTAIN: 2
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Senator S. Syvret
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Connétable of St. Mary Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
THE STATES, adopting an amendment of Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier , agreed that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 2 on pages 12–13, in the section entitled "What we will do", for the second bullet point, there should be substituted the following bullet point –
Lay the foundations for a genuinely diverse economy."
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 23 CONTRE: 22 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
THE STATES, adopting an amendment of Senator Ben Edward Shenton, agreed that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 2 on pages 12–13, in the section entitled "What we will do", in the eleventh bullet point, after the words "Recognise the contribution made by the Tourism and Agriculture industries to a diverse society" there should be inserted the words "and demonstrate this commitment by making grants available for investment in tourism infrastructure".
THE STATES, adopting an amendment of the Connétable of St. Helier , agreed that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 2 on pages 12–13, in the section entitled "What we will do", after the first bullet point, there should be inserted an additional bullet point as follows –
• Show the world that economic and environmental success can work together".
THE STATES commenced consideration of an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "attached as Appendix 1"there should be inserted the words –
(c) for Priority 3 there should be substituted the following Priority –
"3. Maintain the level and delivery of public services in an efficient and effective
manner.";
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Connétable of St. Peter , agreed, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 84, that the debate on the amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier to the Strategic Plan 2009 – 2014 be put to the vote.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 25 CONTRE: 18 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator J.L. Perchard Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "attached as Appendix 1"there should be inserted the words –
(c) for Priority 3 there should be substituted the following Priority –
"3. Maintain the level and delivery of public services in an efficient and effective
manner.";
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 15 CONTRE: 29 ABSTAIN: 1 Senator S. Syvret Senator T.A. Le Sueur Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Senator A. Breckon Senator P.F. Routier
Connétable of Grouville Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Connétable of St. Peter Senator J.L. Perchard
Connétable of St. Lawrence Senator S.C. Ferguson
Deputy of St. Martin Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Connétable of St. Ouen
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Connétable of St. Helier
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Connétable of Trinity
Deputy of St. Mary Connétable of St. Brelade
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Connétable of St. Martin
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Connétable of St. Saviour
Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 3 on page 14, in the section entitled "Why we must do this" –
- in the second bullet point, for the words "the possibility of reduced income as a result of worldwide recession" there should be substituted the words "in responding to increased individual and community needs due to the impact of recession.";
- the third bullet point should be deleted;
- the fourth bullet point should be deleted;
- in the fifth bullet point, for the word "it" there should be substituted the words "his or her government to take its proper responsibility to maintain the welfare of all residents.";
- after the last bullet point there should be inserted the following new bullet point –
"We recognise that whilst there may be some small savings to be made from the
reduction of some minor peripheral activities, after several years of efficiency savings there is little scope for major savings in what are core, essential services.".".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 13 CONTRE: 32 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 3 on page 14, in the section entitled "What we will do" –
- the second bullet point should be deleted;
- the fourth bullet point should be deleted;
- in the fifth bullet point, after the word "staff", there should be inserted the words "in consultation with representatives of public sector employees to ensure good recruitment and retention levels".".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 13 CONTRE: 31 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
THE STATES, adopting an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier , agreed that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 3 on page 14, in the section entitled "Key Indicators" –
(a) in the first bullet point, for the words "the cost of" there should be substituted the words "value-for-money (VFM) in".".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 44 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator S. Syvret Connétable of Grouville
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES, adopting an amendment of the Connétable of St. Helier , agreed that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in the list of Priorities on page 8 –
in Priority 3, for the words "reduce costs" there should be substituted the words "improve efficiency";
and consequential changes made to the wording of the Priorities where they appeared in other parts of the Plan."
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 4 on pages 15–16, the second introductory paragraph should be deleted and the following two paragraphs inserted–
"The intention is to continue the work to create an efficient, effective and motivated public sector that puts the customer at the heart of everything it does, and to maintain levels of service through the economic downturn. This will be achieved through appropriate use of funding from the Stabilisation Fund.
In maintaining sustainable public finances, we are aware that we have failed properly to assess all potential sources of income which will add to the overarching priority given earlier in this document. That requires us to re-examine fiscal planning measures. We shall examine the options available to reduce the need for supplementation. Furthermore we shall examine the options for the introduction of progressive taxation measures".".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 11 CONTRE: 35 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Senator A. Breckon Deputy of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 4 on pages 15–16, in the section entitled "Why we must do this" –
- the first bullet point should be deleted;
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 6 CONTRE: 40 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 4 on pages 15–16, in the section entitled "Why we must do this" –
- in the second bullet point, for the words "The public continues to demand" there should be substituted the words "We recognise that it will be difficult to maintain", and the words "With ever spiralling costs of providing essential services, such as health-care, this is not sustainable" should be deleted;
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 11 CONTRE: 35 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Senator A. Breckon Deputy of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 4 on pages 15–16, in the section entitled "Why we must do this" –
- the fourth bullet point should be deleted;
- in the fifth bullet point, the words "and consider alternatives for service delivery" should be deleted.".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 11 CONTRE: 35 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Senator A. Breckon Deputy of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 4 on pages 15–16, in the section entitled –
- in the second bullet point, the words "No additional spend unless matched by savings or income;" should be deleted;
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 11 CONTRE: 35 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 4 on pages 15–16, in the section entitled "What we will do" –
- in the fifth bullet point, for the words "with low taxation will be addressed through sound planning and improved communication. This will mean being realistic about what is affordable" there should be substituted the words "will require a hard look at progressive alternatives in taxation measures".".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 11 CONTRE: 34 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Senator A. Breckon
Deputy of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES, adopting an amendment of the Deputy of St. Mary , agreed that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 4 on pages 15–16, in the section entitled "What we will do", for the fourth bullet point (which begins "Introduce a range of environmental taxes") there should be substituted the following bullet point –
• Investigate the introduction of environmental taxes and charges as part of the pursuit of environmental objectives as set out in Priority 13."
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 37 CONTRE: 5 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Senator B.E. Shenton
Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES, adopting an amendment of Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier , agreed that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
", except that in Priority 4 on pages 15–16, in the section entitled "What we will do", after the last bullet point there should be inserted the following additional bullet point –
Examine whether borrowing is an alternative and optional way forward for long-term
capital projects."
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 37 CONTRE: 7 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S. Syvret
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Senator P.F. Routier
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES commenced consideration of an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that after the words "attached as Appendix 1" there should be inserted the words –
(d) for Priority 5 there should be substituted the following Priority – "5. Limit population growth.";
and consequential changes made to the wording of the Priorities where they appeared in other parts of the Plan.".
", except that in Priority 5 on page 17, in the first introductory paragraph, after the words "form part of this Strategic Plan." there should be inserted the words "However there is no agreement over what level of population is sustainable, and little consensus even over what this means.".".
", except that in Priority 5 on page 17, in the section entitled "What we will do" –
- in the first bullet point, the words "there is" should be deleted and after the word "levels" the words "is brought to the States for agreement within 6 months of the acceptance of the Strategic Plan" added;
- in the second bullet point, the word "100,000" should be deleted and substituted with the words "levels set by the States";
- in the second bullet point, the words "between 150 and 200 heads of household per annum in the long-term" should be deleted and substituted with the words "agreed by the States";
- in the second bullet point, the words "rolling five year average of no more than 150 heads of household per annum (an overall increase of circa 325 people per annum)" should be deleted and substituted with the words "level agreed by the States";
- in the third bullet point, for the words "through the Migration Policy" there should be substituted the words "through a Migration Policy";
- in the fourth bullet point, the word "an" should be deleted and the words "any agreed" added".
Arrangement of Public Business for current meeting
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Andrew Kenneth Francis Green of St. Helier , agreed that the meeting should continue on Tuesday 9th and Wednesday 10th June 2009 only, in order to conclude consideration of the Strategic Plan 2009 – 2014 (P.52/2009).
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 29 CONTRE: 11 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Tuesday 9th June 2009 to continue consideration of the Strategic Plan 2009 – 2014 (P.52/2009).
THE STATES rose at 5.37 p.m.
A.H. HARRIS Deputy Greffier of the States