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States Minutes 7th October 2009

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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 7th October 2009, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,

Michael Cameron St. John Birt Esquire. __________________

All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Paul Francis Routier – absent on States' business

Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.10 a.m.)

Senator Terence John Le Main – absent on States' business

Senator Frederick Ellyer Cohen – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.10 a.m.)

Connétable Len Norman of St. Clement – absent on States' business

Deputy James Gordon Reed of St. Ouen – ill

Deputy  John  Alexander  Nicholas  Le Fondré  of   St. Lawrence  en  défaut  (défaut  raised  at 10.46 a.m.) Deputy Anne Enid Pryke of Trinity – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.10 a.m.)

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Prayers read by the Deputy Greffier of the States __________________

Notification of lodged propositions

Provision of States Members' lunches at certain meetings and car parking.  P.171/2009. Lodged: 7th October 2009.

Senator S.C. Ferguson.

Vote of No Confidence: States Employment Board P.142/2009

THE  STATES  commenced  consideration  of  a  proposition  of   Deputy  Geoffrey  Peter   Southern  of St. Helier that they had no confidence in the States Employment Board and rejected a proposition of Senator James Leslie Perchard that the matter should be put to the vote.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 17   CONTRE: 26  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator F.E. Cohen Senator J.L. Perchard Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary


 Senator S. Syvret

  Senator A. Breckon

  Senator S.C. Ferguson

  Senator A.J.D. Maclean

  Connétable of St. Helier

  Connétable of St. Lawrence   Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

  Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

  Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

  Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

  Deputy of Grouville

  Deputy of St. Peter

495   Price code: B

STATES MINUTES

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)


7th October 2009

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Deputy D. De Sousa (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES, having resumed consideration of the proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier , rejected the proposition that that they had no confidence in the States Employment Board.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 11 CONTRE: 35 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S. Syvret

Senator A. Breckon

Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


Senator T.A. Le Sueur

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator B.E. Shenton

Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator A.J.D. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Senator Alan Breckon, Connétable Alan Simon Crowcroft of St. Helier , Connétable Peter Frederick Maurice Hanning of St. Saviour , Deputies Robert Charles Duhamel of St. Saviour , John Benjamin Fox of St. Helier and Ian Joseph Gorst of St. Clement , in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(b), declared an interest not being of a direct financial nature, and remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate.

Draft Marriage and Civil Status (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Law 200- P.123/2009

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Marriage and Civil Status (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Law 200- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 33 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 4.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 34 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Marriage and Civil Status (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Law 200-.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Draft Public Employees (Contributory Retirement Scheme) (General) (Amendment No. 10) (Jersey) Regulations 200- P.126/2009

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Public Employees (Contributory Retirement Scheme) (General) (Amendment No. 10) (Jersey) Regulations 200– and adopted the principles.

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 5.

THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 2, 3 and 4 of the Public Employees (Retirement) (Jersey) Law 1967, made Regulations entitled the Public Employees (Contributory Retirement Scheme) (General) (Amendment No. 10) (Jersey) Regulations 2009.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 38 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Senator Bryan Ian Le Marquand, Connétable Alan Simon Crowcroft of St. Helier , Connétable John Martin Refault of St. Peer, Deputies John Benjamin Fox of St. Helier , Ian Joseph Gorst of St. Clement , Trevor Mark Pitman of St. Helier and Andrew Kenneth Francis Green of St. Helier , in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(b), declared an interest not being of a direct financial nature, but remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate.

Draft Road Traffic (No. 59) (Jersey) Regulations 200- P.128/2009

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Road Traffic (No. 59) (Jersey) Regulations 200– and adopted the principles.

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1–6.

THE STATES adopted Regulation 7.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 35 CONTRE: 3 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H)


Deputy of St. John

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES, having adopted Articles 8–13, and in pursuance of Order in Council of 26th December 1851 and Article 92 of the Road Traffic (Jersey) Law 1956, made Regulations entitled the Road Traffic (No. 59) (Jersey) Regulations 2009.

Rental Deposit Scheme to protect tenants' deposits P.130/2009

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier , agreed to request the Minister for Housing to bring forward for approval, by the end of March 2010, Regulations under Article 24 of the Residential Tenancy (Jersey) Law 200- to establish a rental deposit scheme to protect deposits paid by tenants and to resolve disputes arising from the operation of the scheme.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 22 CONTRE: 18 ABSTAIN: 2

Senator B.E. Shenton Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


Senator T.A. Le Sueur

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)


Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of Grouville

Senators Terence Augustine Le Sueur , Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf , Sarah Craig Ferguson, Connétable s John le Sueur Gallichan of Trinity , Daniel Joseph Murphy of Grouville and Peter Frederick Maurice Hanning of St. Saviour and Deputies Judith Ann Martin of St. Helier , John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré of St. Lawrence , Sean Seamus Patrick Augustine Power of St. Brelade and Ian Joseph Gorst of St. Clement , the Deputy of St. John , Deputies Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade , Tracey Anne Vallois of St. Saviour and Deborah Jane De Sousa of St. Helier , in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(b), declared an interest not being of a direct financial nature, and remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate.

Draft Sex Offenders (Jersey) Law 200- P.132/2009

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Sex Offenders (Jersey) Law 200- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 36 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator A. Breckon

Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 8th October 2009 to consider the outstanding items of public business.

THE STATES rose at 5.43 p.m.

A.H. HARRIS Deputy Greffier of the States