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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 9th December 2009, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of
Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, Greffier of the States. __________________
All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Stuart Syvret – en défaut
Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.23 a.m.)
__________________
Prayers __________________
Documents presented or laid
Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – Marine Leisure Business Park LC25, R.136/2009. LC26, LC27, LC29 and LC30, La Collette, St. Helier – leases.
Presented: 9th December 2009.
Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Tariff of Harbour Dues (P.178/2009): addendum. P.178/2009. Presented: 9th December 2009. Add. Minister for Economic Development.
Budget Statement 2010 P.179/2009
THE STATES resumed consideration of the Budget Statement 2010 and, adopting an amendment of Deputy Sean Seamus Patrick Augustine Power of St. Brelade , agreed that in paragraph (a), after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the estimate of total taxation revenue in 2010 shall be decreased by £4.25 million by removing all proposed increases in impôts duty on alcohol, tobacco and fuel for 2010 set out in Figure 6.1 on Page 26."
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 28 CONTRE: 23 ABSTAIN: 1 Senator J.L. Perchard Senator T.A. Le Sueur Deputy of St. Mary
Senator A. Breckon Senator P.F. Routier
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Connétable of St. Helier Senator T.J. Le Main
Connétable of Grouville Senator B.E. Shenton
Connétable of St. Martin Senator F.E. Cohen
Connétable of St. John Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Connétable of St. Clement Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Ouen
691 Price code: B
STATES MINUTES
Connétable of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
9th December 2009
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Peter
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Change in Presidency
Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, Greffier of the States retired from the Chair during consideration of the amendment of Deputy Sean Seamus Patrick Augustine Power of St. Brelade to the Budget Statement 2010, and the meeting continued under the Presidency of the Bailiff .
Budget Statement 2010 P.179/2009
THE STATES commenced consideration of an amendment of Senator Terence John Le Main that in paragraph (a) after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the estimate of total taxation revenue for 2010 shall be increased by £0.9 million by the replacement of the vehicle emissions duty proposed by the Minister for Treasury and Resources in the Budget Statement by a new annual environmental emission tax on all vehicles registered in Jersey from September 2010 based on engine sizes as follows –
- private vehicles up to 1,200cc
- private vehicles between 1,200cc and 2,000cc
- private vehicles between 2,001cc and 3,000cc
- private vehicles over 3,000cc
- commercial vehicles up to 1,600cc
- commercial vehicles over 1,600cc
No annual tax £75 annual tax £150 annual tax £250 annual tax £100 annual tax £150 annual tax
provided that the Minister for Treasury and Resources shall have discretion to exempt certain categories of vehicle from the tax, including those used by charitable organisations, classic cars, vehicles used by essential services and hire cars imported for short periods;".
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for Treasury and Resources, agreed, in accordance with Article 20(3) of the Public Finances (Jersey) Law 2005, that the Minister's amendment to the amendment of Senator Terence John Le Main could be considered by the Assembly at the present meeting.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 32 CONTRE: 3 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy of St. John
Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of the Minister for Treasury and Resources that for the words "engine sizes" there should be substituted the words "CO2 emissions" and for the table setting out the amounts of the tax there should be substituted the following table –
"(i) vehicles up to 120g (CO2 g/km) | No annual tax |
(ii) vehicles between 121g and 185g | £75 annual tax |
(iii) vehicles between 186g and 250g | £150 annual tax |
(iv) vehicles over 251g | £250 annual tax" |
and after the words "from September 2010" there should be inserted the words "(or the earliest possible date thereafter)".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 21 CONTRE: 25 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator A. Breckon
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Change in Presidency
THE STATES re-assembled after the lunch adjournment under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff .
Budget Statement 2010 P.179/2009
THE STATES rejected a proposition of Senator Terence John Le Main that his amendment to the Budget Statement 2010 be withdrawn.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 25 CONTRE: 25 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator F.E. Cohen Senator J.L. Perchard Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Grouville
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator A. Breckon
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES noted that, as there was an equality of votes, the matter had been determined in the negative in accordance with Article 16(2) of the States of Jersey Law 2005.
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Senator Terence John Le Main, that in paragraph (a) after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –
"except that the estimate of total taxation revenue for 2010 shall be increased by £0.9 million by the replacement of the vehicle emissions duty proposed by the Minister for Treasury and Resources in the Budget Statement by a new annual environmental emission tax on all vehicles registered in Jersey from September 2010 based on engine sizes as follows –
- private vehicles up to 1,200cc
- private vehicles between 1,200cc and 2,000cc
- private vehicles between 2,001cc and 3,000cc
- private vehicles over 3,000cc
- commercial vehicles up to 1,600cc
- commercial vehicles over 1,600cc
No annual tax £75 annual tax £150 annual tax £250 annual tax £100 annual tax £150 annual tax
provided that the Minister for Treasury and Resources shall have discretion to exempt certain categories of vehicle from the tax, including those used by charitable organisations, classic cars, vehicles used by essential services and hire cars imported for short periods;".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 7 CONTRE: 43 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.J. Le Main Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES rejected an amendment of Senator Alan Breckon that in paragraph (a) after the words "as set out in the Budget Statement" there should be inserted the words –
"except that, in Summary Table A, States Income 2010, the estimate of total taxation revenue for 2010 shall be increased by £4.9 million by increasing the New Company Fees via the Financial Services Commission, which shall be achieved by increasing the Company Annual Return Fee to £300, as follows –
New Company Fees via Financial Services Commission | 8, 600,000 |
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 7 CONTRE: 41 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator A. Breckon Senator T.A. Le Sueur Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Senator P.F. Routier
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senators Terence Augustine Le Sueur , Paul Francis Routier, Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf , James Leslie Perchard and Sarah Craig Ferguson, the Connétable s of St. Ouen , Trinity , St. Brelade and St. Saviour , the Deputy of St. Ouen , Deputies Paul Vincent Francis Le Claire of St. Helier , John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré of St. Lawrence and Kevin Charles Lewis of St. Saviour , the Deputy of St. John , Deputies Anne Teresa Dupré of St. Clement , Edward James Noel of St. Lawrence , Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier and Deborah Jane de Sousa of St. Helier , in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(b), declared an interest not being of a direct financial nature.
In accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(1)(c), Deputy Ian Joseph Gorst of St. Clement , declared an interest but remained for the duration of the debate.
THE STATES resumed consideration of the Budget Statement 2010, as amended and, adopting a proposition of Deputy Paul Vincent Francis Le Claire of St. Helier , agreed that the meeting should be adjourned.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 31 CONTRE: 14 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator B.I. Le Marquand Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D. De Sousa (H)
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.D. Maclean
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Peter
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 10th December 2009 to continue consideration of the Budget Statement 2010 and the outstanding items of public business.
THE STATES rose at 5.31 p.m.
A.H. HARRIS Deputy Greffier of the States