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States Minutes 15th September 2010

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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 15th September 2010, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,

Michael Cameron St. John Birt Esquire. __________________

All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Terence John Le Main – ill

Connétable Juliette Gallichan of St. Mary – excused attendance

Deputy Roy George Le Hérissier of St. Saviour – absent on States business Deputy Shona Pitman of St. Helier ill

Deputy Kevin Charles Lewis of St. Saviour – absent on States business

__________________

Prayers __________________

Documents presented or laid

Property and Infrastructure Regeneration: the States of Jersey Development Company  P.73/2010. Limited (P.73/2010) – amendment (P.73/2010 Amd.) – comments.  Amd.Com. Presented: 15th September 2010.

Council of Ministers.

Withdrawal of lodged propositions

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the proposers of the following propositions lodged "au Greffe" had informed the Greffier of the States that they had been withdrawn –

Draft Annual Business Plan 2011 (P.99/2010): seventh amendment (paragraphs 4  P.99/2010. and 5).  Amd.(7) Lodged: 24th August 2010.

Senator B.E. Shenton.

Draft Annual Business Plan 2011 (P.99/2010): eighth amendment (paragraph 1).  P.99/2010. Lodged: 24th August 2010.  Amd.(8) Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel.

Draft Annual Business Plan 2011 P.99/2010

THE  STATES  resumed  consideration  of  paragraph (a)  of  the  Draft  Annual  Business  Plan  2011 (P.99/2010)  and  an  amendment  of   Deputy  Geoffrey  Peter   Southern  of   St. Helier  (Amendment 4, paragraph 3).

THE STATES rejected the amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier (Amendment 4, paragraph 3) that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2011" there should be inserted the words –

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"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Economic Development Department shall be increased by £183,000 in order to maintain support for the provision of school milk and not proceed with the Comprehensive Spending Review proposal on page 62 of the Plan EDS-13 "Cease funding to subsidise the provision of school milk" and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department shall be decreased by the same amount by reducing the allocation for Restructuring Costs."

Members voted as follows –

POUR: 14 CONTRE: 30 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. John Deputy of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of St. John

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


Senator T.A. Le Sueur

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator B.E. Shenton

Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Following the rejection of paragraph 3 of the amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier (Amendment 4, paragraph 3), the Deputy Bailiff informed the Assembly that paragraph 4 of the same amendment was deemed to have been withdrawn.

Senator James Leslie Perchard declared an interest and withdrew from the Chamber during consideration of the amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier (Amendment 4, paragraph 3) to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2011 (P.99/2010).

THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier (Amendment 4, paragraph 2) to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2011, that after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2011" there should be inserted the words –

"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Economic Development Department shall be decreased by £400,000 in order to reduce the level of support for Jersey Finance Limited and not proceed with the Comprehensive Spending Review proposal on page 62 of the Plan ED-S8 "Additional support for JFL".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 23 CONTRE: 25 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator B.E. Shenton Senator J.L. Perchard Senator A. Breckon

Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


Senator T.A. Le Sueur

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Peter

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

In accordance with Standing Order 106(1)(b) Deputy Ian Joseph Gorst of St. Helier declared an interest but remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate.

THE STATES rejected an amendment of the Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel (Amendment 8, paragraph 2), that in paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan, after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2011" there should be inserted the words –

"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Education, Sport and Culture Department shall be increased by £88,000 in order maintain the post of Educational Psychologist and not proceed with the Comprehensive Spending Review proposal on page 62 of the Plan ESC-S3 (Restructuring the Special Educational Needs Service and the way emotional and behavioural support is delivered to primary school children') and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department shall be decreased by the same amount by reducing the allocation for Restructuring Costs."

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 13 CONTRE: 33 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator A. Breckon

Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


Senator T.A. Le Sueur

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator B.E. Shenton

Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator J.L. Perchard

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Peter

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

THE STATES rejected an amendment of the Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel (Amendment 8, paragraph 3) that in paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan, after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2011" there should be inserted the words –

"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Education, Sport and Culture Department shall be increased by £33,000 in order maintain the annual payment to Durrell to allow free entry and teaching time for school parties and not proceed with the Comprehensive Spending Review proposal on page 62 of the Plan ESC-S5 (Cease annual payment to Durrell to allow free entry and teaching time for school parties') and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department shall be decreased by the same amount by reducing the allocation for Restructuring Costs.".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 14

Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Deputy of St. Martin Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


 CONTRE: 31  ABSTAIN: 1

  Senator T.A. Le Sueur   Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)  Senator P.F. Routier

  Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

  Senator B.E. Shenton

  Senator J.L. Perchard

  Senator S.C. Ferguson

  Senator A.J.H. Maclean

  Senator B.I. Le Marquand

  Senator F. du H. Le Gresley

  Connétable of Trinity

  Connétable of Grouville

  Connétable of St. Brelade

  Connétable of St. Martin

  Connétable of St. John

  Connétable of St. Saviour

  Connétable of St. Clement

  Connétable of St. Peter

  Connétable of St. Lawrence

  Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

  Deputy of St. Ouen

  Deputy of Grouville

  Deputy of St. Peter

  Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

  Deputy of Trinity

  Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

  Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

  Deputy of St. John

  Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

  Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

  Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

  Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier (Amendment 2) to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2011 that, after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2011" there should be inserted the words –

"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Education Sport and Culture Department shall  be  increased  by  £67,000  in  order  to  maintain  the  level  of  modern  foreign  language assistants  in  secondary  schools  and  not  proceed  with  that  element  of  the  Comprehensive Spending  Review  proposal  on  page 62  of  the  Plan  ESC-S4 "Re-defining core business for schools and colleges at ESC" and the net revenue expenditure of the Treasury and Resources Department shall be decreased by the same amount by reducing the allocation for restructuring costs."

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 20   CONTRE: 25  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf   Senator T.A. Le Sueur   Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Senator F.E. Cohen   Senator P.F. Routier

Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy J.B. Fox (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


Senator J.L. Perchard

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F.du H. Le Gresley Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

THE STATES rejected an amendment of Deputy Trevor Mark Pitman of St Helier (Amendment 12) that in paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2011, after the words "withdrawn from the consolidated fund in 2011" there should be inserted the words –

"except that the net revenue expenditure of the Education, Sport and Culture Department shall be increased by £50,000 to maintain the overall budget of the Youth Service (notwithstanding the saving that will be made through the restructuring of the senior management of the Youth Service as part of the Comprehensive Spending Review (ESC-S7))".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 12 CONTRE: 33 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator A. Breckon

Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


Senator T.A. Le Sueur

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator F.E. Cohen

Senator J.L. Perchard

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. John

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Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)

Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Changes in Presidency

THE STATES re-assembled after the lunch adjournment under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff during consideration of the amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier (Amendment 4, paragraph 2) to paragraph (a) of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2011 (P.99/2010).

Arrangement of public business for the current meeting

THE STATES rejected a proposition of the Deputy of St. Peter that the Assembly should meet until 7.30 p.m. when it reconvened the following day.

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 16th September 2010 to continue consideration of the Draft Annual Business Plan 2011 (P.99/2010) and the outstanding items of public business.

THE STATES rose at 6.38 p.m.

M.N. DE LA HAYE Greffier of the States