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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 7th December 2011, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,
Michael Cameron St. John Birt Esquire. __________________
All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Alan John Henry Maclean – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.36 a.m.) Senator Bryan Ian Le Marquand – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.37 a.m.) Senator Sir Philip Bailhache – ill
Deputy Trevor Mark Pitman of St. Helier – ill
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Prayers __________________
St. Helier Waterfront: development P.175/2011
THE STATES resumed consideration of a proposition of the Connétable of St. Helier regarding the development of St. Helier 's Waterfront.
THE STATES rejected paragraph (a) of the proposition of the Connétable of St. Helier to request the Minister for Treasury and Resources not to allow any commitments to be made by the States of Jersey Development Company (SoJDC) (formerly known as the Waterfront Development Board) in respect of the development or sale of any part of the Esplanade Quarter until the future of this site had been determined by the new States Assembly in 2012.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 20 CONTRE: 28 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator A. Breckon Senator P.F. Routier Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Connétable of St. Helier Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Connétable of St. Lawrence Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. John Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Senator I.J. Gorst
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Senator L.J. Farnham
Deputy of Grouville Connétable of Trinity
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Connétable of Grouville
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Connétable of St. Clement
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Connétable of St. Peter
Deputy S. Pitman (H) Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Connétable of St. Ouen
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Connétable of St. Brelade
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Connétable of St. Martin
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Connétable of St. Saviour
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Ouen
(Re-issue) 797 Price code: B
STATES MINUTES Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
7th December 2011
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy of St. Peter
THE STATES, adopting paragraph (b) of a proposition of the Connétable of St. Helier , agreed to request the Minister for Treasury and Resources not to allow any commitments to be made by the States of Jersey Development Company (SoJDC) (formerly known as the Waterfront Development Board) in respect of the development or sale of any part of the areas known as La Folie, Les Galots, and the sites occupied by the Jersey Rowing Club until the future of these sites had been determined by the new States Assembly in 2012.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 26 CONTRE: 21 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
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Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Brelade Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy of St. Peter
798
Appointment of the States Commissioners of the Jersey Overseas Aid Commission
THE STATES, in accordance with the provisions of the Jersey Overseas Aid Commission (Jersey) Law 2005, and on the nomination of Senator Paul Francis Routier, Chairman of the Jersey Overseas Aid Commission, appointed the following elected members as States Commissioners –
The Connétable of St. Martin The Deputy of Grouville .
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 43 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator P.F. Routier Connétable of St. John
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)
Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
Medium Term Financial Plan: minimum lodging period P.176/2011
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier regarding the introduction of a minimum lodging period for the future Medium Term Financial Plan and of an amendment of the Minister for Treasury and Resources that for the words "12 weeks" there should be substituted the words "9 weeks".
Following the lunchtime adjournment, the Assembly acceded to the request of the Minister for Treasury and Resources that his amendment to the proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier be withdrawn.
THE STATES, having resumed consideration of a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier , agreed that the revisions to Standing Orders that would be required following the adoption of the Public Finances (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Law 201- should provide that the future Medium Term Financial Plan should have a minimum lodging period of 12 weeks, and requested the Minister for Treasury and Resources, in consultation with the Privileges and Procedures Committee, to take the necessary steps to give effect to the decision.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 36 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator I.J. Gorst Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C)
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
Draft Pet Travel Scheme (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.178/2011
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Pet Travel Scheme (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.
THE STATES was informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation.
THE STATES adopted Regulations 1 to 13.
The Bailiff , in accordance with Standing Order 75(4), which enabled a clerical error to a draft to be amended during third reading, advised the Assembly that in Regulation 11 for the word is' there should be substituted the word are'.
THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 2 of the European Communities Legislation (Implementation) (Jersey) Law 1996, made Regulations entitled the Pet Travel Scheme (Jersey) Regulations 2011.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 44 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
Draft Telecommunications (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 201- P.179/2011
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Telecommunications (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 201- and adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 39 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Connétable of Grouville Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 11.
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Telecommunications (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 201-.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 42 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Connétable of Grouville Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
Arrangement of public business for future meetings
THE STATES agreed the following arrangement of public business for future meetings proposed, as amended, by the Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 88(3) –
17th January 2012
Price control: investigation. P.165/2011. Lodged: 3rd October 2011.
Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .
Price control: investigation (P.165/2011) – comments. P.165/2011. Presented: 31st October 2011. Com. Minister for Economic Development.
Draft Shipping (MARPOL) (Jersey) Regulations 201-. P.172/2011. Lodged: 18th October 2011.
Minister for Economic Development.
Draft Criminal Justice (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 3) (Jersey) Law 201-. P.173/2011. Lodged: 20th October 2011.
Chief Minister.
Election campaign period: restrictions. P.174/2011. Lodged: 21st October 2011.
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour .
Draft Employment (Minimum Wage) (Amendment No. 8) (Jersey) Regulations 201-. P.180/2011. Lodged: 28th October 2011.
Minister for Social Security.
Draft Criminal Justice (International Co-operation) (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law P.181/2011. 201-.
Lodged: 15th November 2011.
Minister for Home Affairs.
Minimum Wage: revised hourly rate from 1st April 2012. P.183/2011. Lodged: 22nd November 2011.
Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .
Draft Maintenance Orders (Facilities for Enforcement – Convention Countries) P.184/2011. (Amendment) (Jersey) Act 201-.
Lodged: 28th November 2011.
Chief Minister.
Health Insurance Fund: transfer to Health and Social Services Department for 2012. P.185/2011. Lodged: 29th November 2011.
Minister for Social Security.
Draft Cold Weather Bonus (Jersey) Regulations 201-. P.186/2011. Lodged: 29th November 2011.
Minister for Social Security.
Machinery of Government: review by Privileges and Procedures Committee. P.187/2011. Lodged: 29th November 2011.
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains of St. Clement .
Open ballot for Ministers and Chairmen. P.188/2011. Lodged: 5th December 2011.
Deputy T.M. Pitman of St. Helier .
31st January 2012
Ex gratia payment: Mr. D. Turner. P.166/2011. Lodged: 4th October 2011.
Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier .
Draft States of Jersey Police Force Law 201-. P.182/2011. Lodged: 16th November 2011.
Minister for Home Affairs.
21st February 2012
Standing Orders: Answers to Questions. P.177/2011. Lodged: 21st October 2011.
Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .
20th March 2012
Old Age Pension: method for increase. P.164/2011. Lodged: 3rd October 2011.
Senator A. Breckon.
Compliments of the season (see Official Report)
The Bailiff exchanged compliments of the season with all members, represented by Senator Paul Francis Routier on behalf of the Senators, the Connétable of St. Helier on behalf of the Connétable s, and Deputy Robert Charles Duhamel of St. Saviour on behalf of the Deputies. The Dean also expressed his best wishes for the festive season.
THE STATES rose at 3.35 p.m.
A.H. HARRIS
Deputy Greffier of the States ____________________________________________________________________________________
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