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THE STATES assembled on Thursday 7th July 2011, at 09.30 a.m. under
the Presidency of the Bailiff , Michael Cameron St. John Birt Esquire. __________________
All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Terence John Le Main – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.44 a.m.)
Deputy Judith Ann Martin of St. Helier – en défaut
Deputy John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré of St Lawrence – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.21 a.m.) Deputy Philip John Rondel of St. John – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.50 a.m.)
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Prayers read by the Greffier of the States __________________
Documents presented or laid
Uplifts in land values: Land Development Tax or equivalent mechanism(s) – addendum. P.90/2011. Presented: 7th July 2011. Add. Deputy of St. Mary .
Goods and Services Tax: exemption or zero-rating for health foods (P.81/2011) – P.81/2011. comments. Com.(2) Presented: 7th July 2011.
Minister for Health and Social Services.
Notification of lodged propositions
Draft Shops (Regulation of Opening) (Jersey) Regulations 201- (P.95/2011): second P.95/2011. amendment. Amd.(2) Lodged: 7th July 2011.
Connétable of St. Lawrence .
Draft Shops (Regulation of Opening) (Jersey) Regulations 201- (P.95/2011): third P.95/2011. amendment. Amd.(3) Lodged: 7th July 2011.
Deputy A.K.F. Green of St. Helier .
Draft Long-Term Care (Jersey) Law 201- (P.108/2011): amendment. P.108/2011. Lodged: 7th July 2011. Amd. Minister for Social Security.
527 Price code: B
STATES MINUTES 7th July 2011
Composition of the States: further debates before the outcome of the Electoral Commission P.78/2011
THE STATES, having resumed consideration of a proposition of Deputy Trevor Mark Pitman of St. Helier , rejected the proposition to refer to their Act dated 15th March 2011 in which they agreed that an Electoral Commission should be established, and to agree that it was undesirable that further proposals seeking to change the composition of the elected membership of the States Assembly, or to overturn decisions already taken in relation to the composition of the elected membership, should be debated by the States until after the findings of the Electoral Commission had been reported to, and considered by, the States (other than any proposition(s) needed to take forward the Commission's recommendations) and to agree that all members should be requested not to lodge any propositions on these matters until the Electoral Commission had concluded its work.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 21 CONTRE: 23 ABSTAIN: 2
Senator B.E. Shenton Senator P.F. Routier Connétable of St. Mary Senator J.L. Perchard Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Senator A. Breckon Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator F.E. Cohen
Connétable of St. Brelade Senator S.C. Ferguson
Connétable of St. Saviour Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Ouen
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Connétable of Trinity
Deputy of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville
Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Connétable of St. Martin
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Connétable of St. John
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Connétable of St. Peter
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Connétable of St. Lawrence
Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Draft States of Jersey (Miscellaneous Provisions) Law 201-: request to Privy Council P.99/2011
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of the Deputy of Grouville regarding a request to Privy Council to withdraw the Draft States of Jersey (Miscellaneous Provisions) Law 201- and rejected a proposition of the Connétable of St. John that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 84, the matter should be put to the vote.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 25
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator T.J. Le Main Senator B.E. Shenton Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator J.L. Perchard Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
CONTRE: 25 ABSTAIN: 1 Senator A. Breckon Deputy of Grouville
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES noted that, as there was an equality of votes, the matter had been determined in the negative in accordance with Article 16(2) of the States of Jersey Law 2005.
THE STATES, having resumed consideration of a proposition of the Deputy of Grouville , rejected her proposition to refer to their Act dated 20th January 2011 in which, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, they adopted a Law entitled the States of Jersey (Miscellaneous Provisions) Law 201-, and to agree that it was no longer the wish of the Assembly that the Law should receive the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council and to charge the Greffier of the States to write to the Clerk of the Council notifying the Clerk that it was the wish of the States of Jersey to withdraw the Law which was transmitted through the official channels under cover of a letter from the Greffier of the States dated 26th January 2011.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 25 CONTRE: 26 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator A. Breckon Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Senator P.F. Routier Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Senator T.J. Le Main Connétable of St. Saviour
Senator B.E. Shenton Connétable of St. Clement
Senator F.E. Cohen Connétable of St. Mary
Senator J.L. Perchard Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Senator S.C. Ferguson Deputy of St. Martin
Senator A.J.H. Maclean Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of Grouville Deputy of St. Peter Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Jersey Harbours and Airport Shadow Board: Terms of Reference P.47/2011
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for Economic Development, approved the Terms of Reference of the Jersey Harbours and Airport Shadow Board as outlined in the report of the Minister for Economic Development dated 25th March 2011.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 36 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Deputy of St. John Connétable of St. John Senator P.F. Routier Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Changes in Presidency
The Deputy Bailiff retired from the Chamber during consideration of the Jersey Harbours and Airport Shadow Board: Terms of Reference' (P.47/2011) and the meeting continued under the presidency of Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, Greffier of the States.
Draft Health Insurance (Medical Benefit) (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.71/2011
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Health Insurance (Medical Benefit) (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 and 2.
THE STATES, in pursuance of in pursuance of Articles 9 and 36 of the Health Insurance (Jersey) Law 1967, made Regulations entitled the Health Insurance (Medical Benefit) (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Regulations 2011.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 34 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A. Breckon Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of Trinity Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Draft Public Employees (Contributory Retirement Scheme) (General) (Amendment No. 11) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.74/2011
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Public Employees (Contributory Retirement Scheme) (General) (Amendment No. 11) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 and 2.
THE STATES, in pursuance of in pursuance of Articles 2 and 3 of the Public Employees (Retirement) (Jersey) Law 1967, made Regulations entitled the Public Employees (Contributory Retirement Scheme) (General) (Amendment No. 11) (Jersey) Regulations 2011.
Draft Income Tax (Amendment No. 38) (Jersey) Law 201- P.79/2011
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Income Tax (Amendment No. 38) (Jersey) Law 201- and adopted the principles.
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 10.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 41 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator T.A. Le Sueur Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator A. Breckon Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Income Tax (Amendment No. 38) (Jersey) Law 201-.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 38 CONTRE: 3 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator A. Breckon Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Act declaring that the Income Tax (Amendment No. 38) (Jersey) Law 201- should have immediate effect
THE STATES, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 80A and in pursuance of Article 19 of the Public Finances (Jersey) Law 2005, declared that the Bill entitled the Income Tax (Amendment No. 38) (Jersey) Law 201- (P.79/2011 lodged "au Greffe" on 17th May 2011, by the Minister for Treasury and Resources) should immediately have effect as if it were a Law sanctioned by Her Majesty in Council.
Arrangement of public business for the present meeting
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee, agreed that Friday 15th July 2011, should be an additional continuation day.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 19 CONTRE: 17 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H)
Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES adopting a proposition of the Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee, agreed to meet from 9.00 a.m. until 6.00 p.m. for the duration of the continuation meetings.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 27 CONTRE: 11 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John
Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Trevor Mark Pitman of St. Helier , agreed under Standing Order 138(4) to grant leave to the Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Sub-Panel reviewing the BDO Alto report to meet on Friday 15th July 2011.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 39 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator A. Breckon
Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy I.J. Gorst (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy A.T. Dupré (C) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy D.J. De Sousa (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Tuesday 12th July 2011 to consider the outstanding items of public business.
THE STATES rose at 5.59 p.m.
M.N. DE LA HAYE Greffier of the States