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States Minutes 11th December 2013

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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 11th December 2013, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , William James Bailhache , Esquire.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf – absent on States business

Senator Alan John Henry Maclean – en défaut

Connétable Leonard Norman of St. Clement ill

Connétable Juliette Gallichan of St. Mary – excused attendance (arrived in the Chamber at 11.22 a.m.) Connétable Sadie Anthea Rennard of St. Saviour – en défaut

Deputy John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré of St. Lawrence ill

Deputy Shona Pitman of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 12.14 p.m.)

Deputy Trevor Mark Pitman of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 12.14 p.m.)

Deputy Patrick John Dennis Ryan of St. John – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.33 a.m.)

Deputy Kristina Louise Moore of St. Peter ill

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Prayers

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Documents presented or laid

Taxi Regulatory Reform – Recommendations.  R.152/2013. Presented: 11th December 2013.

Minister for Transport and Technical Services.

Code of Audit Practice.  R.153/2013. Presented: 11th December 2013.

Comptroller and Auditor General.

Notification of lodged propositions

Draft Restriction on Smoking (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Law 2013 (Appointed  P.161/2013. Day) Act 201-.

Lodged: 11th December 2013.

Minister for Health and Social Services.

Draft Restriction on Smoking (Vending Machines) (Jersey) Regulations 201-.  P.162/2013. Lodged: 11th December 2013.

Minister for Health and Social Services.

Withdrawal of lodged propositions

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the proposer of the following proposition lodged "au Greffe" had informed the Greffier of the States that it had been withdrawn –

477   Price code: C

Public Elections: Single Transferable Voting System (STV) and an Alternative Voting P.86/2013. System (AV).

Lodged: 17th July 2013.

Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade .

Long-Term Care Scheme P.99/2013

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Minister for Social Security entitled Draft Long-Term Care Scheme' (P.99/2013).

THE STATES, adopting the proposition of the Minister for Social Security, referred to their Act dated 21st July 2011 in which they approved the Draft Long-Term Care (Jersey) Law 2012 and approved the details of the long-term care scheme as outlined in Section 1 of the report of the Minister for Social Security dated 22nd August 2013.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 42 CONTRE: 3 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

Changes in Presidency

The Deputy Bailiff retired from the Chamber during consideration of the proposition of the Minister for Social Security entitled Draft Long Term Care Scheme' (P.99/2013) and the meeting continued under the presidency of Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, Greffier of the States until his return.

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

Following the approval of the proposition of the Minister for Social Security entitled Draft Long Term Care  Scheme'  (P.99/2013)  the  following  consequential  amendments  were  deemed  to  have  been withdrawn –

Draft Social Security (Amendment of Law No. 6) (Jersey) Regulations 201-  P.138/2013. (P.138/2013): amendment.  Amd. Lodged: 19th November 2013.

Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade .

Draft Long-Term Care (States Contribution) (Jersey) Regulations 201- (P.140/2013):  P.140/2013. amendment.  Amd. Lodged: 19th November 2013.

Senator A. Breckon.

Draft Social Security (Amendment of Law No. 6) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.138/2013

THE  STATES  commenced consideration of the Draft Social Security (Amendment of Law No. 6) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 36   CONTRE: 1  ABSTAIN: 2

Senator P.F. Routier   Deputy S. Pitman (H)   Deputy J.H. Young (B) Senator A. Breckon   Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Senator F. du H. Le Gresley

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator P.M. Bailhache

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 and 2.

THE STATES adopted Regulation 3.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 38 CONTRE: 5 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin


Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

THE STATES adopted Regulation 4.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 6 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)


Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

THE STATES adopted Regulation 5.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 38 CONTRE: 5 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)


Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

THE STATES adopted Regulations 6, 7 and 8. THE STATES adopted Regulation 9. Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 38 CONTRE: 5 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)


Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B)

THE STATES adopted Regulation 10.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 38   CONTRE: 5  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)


  Deputy G.P. Southern (H)   Deputy S. Pitman (H)

  Deputy M. Tadier (B)

  Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)   Deputy J.H. Young (B)

THE STATES adopted Regulation 11.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 35   CONTRE: 8  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier   Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Senator A. Breckon   Deputy of Grouville Senator S.C. Ferguson   Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Senator B.I. Le Marquand   Deputy S. Pitman (H) Senator F. du H. Le Gresley   Deputy M. Tadier (B) Senator I.J. Gorst   Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Senator L.J. Farnham   Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Senator P.M. Bailhache   Deputy J.H. Young (B) Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of Grouville

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)

Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

THE STATES adopted Regulation 12.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 39   CONTRE: 4  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John


  Deputy G.P. Southern (H)   Deputy S. Pitman (H)

  Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)   Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

THE STATES adopted Regulations 13 and 14.

THE  STATES,  in  pursuance  of  Articles 50  and  51  of  the  Social  Security  (Jersey)  Law 1974  and Article 16(1) of the Long-Term Care (Jersey) Law 2012 made Regulations entitled the Social Security (Amendment of Law No. 6) (Jersey) Regulations 2013.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 40   CONTRE: 2  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator P.F. Routier   Deputy G.P. Southern (H)   Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Senator A. Breckon   Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Senator F. du H. Le Gresley

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator P.M. Bailhache

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of Grouville

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

Draft Social Security (Amendment No. 21) (Jersey) Law 201- P.139/2013

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Social Security (Amendment No. 21) (Jersey) Law 201- and adopted the principles.

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 6.

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Social Security (Amendment No. 21) (Jersey) Law 201-.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 34 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin


Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)

Draft Long-Term Care (States Contribution) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.140/2013

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Long-Term Care (States Contribution) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 6 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity


Senator A. Breckon

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 4.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 39 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)


Senator A. Breckon

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 2(2)(b) of the Long-Term Care (Jersey) Law 2012,  made Regulations entitled the Long-Term Care (States Contribution) (Jersey) Regulations 2013.

Draft Long-Term Care (Health and Social Services Charges) (Jersey) Law 201- P.141/2013

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Long-Term Care (Health and Social Services Charges) (Jersey) Law 201- and adopted the principles.

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 5.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 6 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)


Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Long-Term Care (Health and Social Services Charges) (Jersey) Law 201-.

Draft Long-Term Care (Residency Conditions) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.136/2013

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Long-Term Care (Residency Conditions) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulation 1.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 33 CONTRE: 9 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator A. Breckon

Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


Senator S.C. Ferguson

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C)

Deputy of St. John Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

THE STATES adopted Regulation 2.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 34 CONTRE: 6 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator A. Breckon

Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)


Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B)

THE STATES adopted Regulation 3. Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 35   CONTRE: 6  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator A. Breckon

Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)


 Senator S.C. Ferguson

  Deputy G.P. Southern (H)   Deputy S. Pitman (H)

  Deputy M. Tadier (B)

  Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)   Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

THE STATES adopted Regulation 4.

THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 3 and 16 of the Long-Term Care (Jersey) Law 2012, made Regulations entitled the Draft Long-Term Care (Residency Conditions) (Jersey) Regulations 2013.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 32   CONTRE: 10  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache


 Senator S.C. Ferguson

  Deputy G.P. Southern (H)   Deputy of St. Ouen

  Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

  Deputy S. Pitman (H)

  Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Connétable of Trinity   Deputy T.M. Pitman (H) Connétable of St. Peter   Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Connétable of St. Lawrence   Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Connétable of St. John   Deputy J.H. Young (B) Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of Grouville

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)

Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

Draft Social Security (Hypothecs) (Jersey) Law 201- P.137/2013

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Social Security (Hypothecs) (Jersey) Law 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 30   CONTRE: 5  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville


  Deputy of St. Ouen

  Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)   Deputy S. Pitman (H)

  Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C)   Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. John Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 7 and the Schedules.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 23 CONTRE: 13 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)


Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy S. Pitman (H)

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)

Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Social Security (Hypothecs) (Jersey) Law 201-.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 24   CONTRE: 13  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator A. Breckon

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)


  Connétable of St. Lawrence   Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

  Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

  Deputy of St. Ouen

  Deputy of Grouville

  Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)   Deputy S. Pitman (H)

  Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

  Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

  Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

  Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)

  Deputy J.H. Young (B)

  Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

Draft Long-Term Care (Jersey) Law 2012 (Appointed Day) Act 201- P.142/2013

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 18 of the Long-Term Care (Jersey) Law 2012, made an Act entitled the Long-Term Care (Jersey) Law 2012 (Appointed Day) Act 2013.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37   CONTRE: 3  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville


  Deputy of St. Ouen

  Deputy S. Pitman (H)

  Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)

Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

Draft Public Finances (Amendment of Law No. 1) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.133/2013

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Public Finances (Amendment of Law No. 1) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 29 CONTRE: 10 ABSTAIN: 2

Senator P.F. Routier Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Deputy of Grouville Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)


Senator S.C. Ferguson

Connétable of St. John

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.H. Young (B)


Senator A. Breckon Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. John Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it wished to scrutinise the draft legislation, agreed that the continuation of the second reading of the Public Finances (Amendment of Law No. 1) (Jersey) Regulations 201- should be deferred until the States meeting of 4th February 2014.

Ratification of the Agreement between the Government of Jersey and the Swiss Federal Council for the Exchange of Information on Tax Matters P.134/2013

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for External Relations, ratified the Agreement between the Government of Jersey and the Swiss Federal Council for the Exchange of Information on Tax Matters, as set out in Appendix 1 to the report of the Minister for External Relations dated 14th October 2013.

Draft Taxation (Exchange of Information with Third Countries) (Amendment No. 8) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.143/2013

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Taxation (Exchange of Information with Third Countries) (Amendment No. 8) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulation 1 and 2.

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 2(1) of the Taxation (Implementation) (Jersey) Law 2004 and following the decision of the States, taken on the day these Regulations were made, to adopt Projet 134 of 2013,  made Regulations entitled the Taxation (Exchange of Information with Third Countries) (Amendment No. 8) (Jersey) Regulations 2013.

Draft Wills and Successions (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 2013 (Appointed Day) Act 201- P.146/2013

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 11 of the Wills and Successions (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 2013, made an Act entitled the Wills and Successions (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Law 2013 (Appointed Day) Act 2013.

Arrangement of public business for future meetings

THE STATES agreed the following arrangement of public business for future meetings proposed, as amended, by the Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 88(3) –

STATES MINUTES 21st January 2014

Sunstone Holdings Ltd. and De Lec Ltd. – ex gratia payments to investors. Lodged: 26th July 2013.

Senator A. Breckon.

Sunstone Holdings Ltd. and De Lec Ltd. – ex gratia payments to investors (P.90/2013) – comments.

Presented: 23rd September 2013.

Council of Ministers.

Composition and election of the States Assembly: reform – proposal 1. Lodged: 2nd August 2013.

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf .


11th December 2013

P.90/2013.

P.90/2013. Com.

P.93/2013.

Composition and election of the States Assembly: reform – (P.93/2013, P.94/2013,  P.93, P.94, P.98/2013, P.116/2013, P.117/2013 and associated amendments) – comments.  P.98, P.116, Presented: 25th October 2013.  P.117/2013. Privileges and Procedures Committee.  Com. (re-issue)

Composition and election of the States Assembly: reform – proposal 1 (P.93/2013) –  P.93/2013. amendment. Amd. Lodged: 3rd September 2013.

Senator L.J. Farnham .

Composition and election of the States Assembly: reform – proposal 1 (P.93/2013) –  P.93/2013. amendment (P.93/2013 Amd.) – amendment.  Amd.Amd. Lodged: 14th October 2013.

Deputy E.J. Noel of St. Lawrence .

Composition and election of the States Assembly: reform – proposal 1 (P.93/2013) –  P.93/2013. second amendment.  Amd.(2) Lodged: 22nd October 2013.

Connétable of St. Mary .

Composition and election of the States Assembly: reform – proposal 1 (P.93/2013) –  P.93/2013. third amendment.  Amd.(3) Lodged: 26th November 2013.

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré of St. Lawrence .

Composition and election of the States Assembly: reform – proposal 1 (P.93/2013) –  P.93/2013. third amendment (P.93/2013 Amd.(3)) – comments.  Amd.(3). Presented: 2nd December 2013.  Com. Privileges and Procedures Committee.

Committee of Inquiry: planning applications by the Channel Islands Co-operative  P.102/2013. Society Ltd.

Lodged: 28th August 2013.

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour .

Draft Aquatic Resources (Jersey) Law 201-.  P.114/2013. Lodged: 24th September 2013.

Minister for Economic Development.

Ratification of the Agreement between the Government of Jersey and the Republic of  P.147/2013. Croatia with respect to the Taxation of Savings Income.

Lodged: 4th November 2013.

Minister for External Relations.

EU Taxation of Savings Income Agreements: replacement of the retention tax by  P.150/2013. automatic exchange of information.

Lodged: 12th November 2013.

Minister for External Relations.

Draft Taxation (Agreements with European Union Member States) (Amendment  P.151/2013. No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 201-.

Lodged: 12th November 2013.

Minister for External Relations.

Law Officers' Department and members of the Law Society of Jersey: revised  P.152/2013. disciplinary process.

Lodged: 13th November 2013.

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour .

Referenda: revised procedures.  P.153/2013. Lodged: 13th November 2013.

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour .

Ratification of the Convention on Mutual Administrative Assistance in Tax Matters.  P.154/2013. Lodged: 26th November 2013.  (re-issue) Minister for External Relations.

Draft Taxation (Implementation) (Convention on Mutual Administrative Assistance in  P.155/2013. Tax Matters) (Jersey) Regulations 201-.

Lodged: 26th November 2013.

Minister for External Relations.

Housing Shadow Board: Terms of Reference and appointment of Directors.  P.156/2013. Lodged: 2nd December 2013.

Minister for Housing.

Machinery of Government: committee system.  P.157/2013. Lodged: 2nd December 2013.

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains of St. Clement .

Access to justice in Jersey: review.  P.158/2013. Lodged: 2nd December 2013.

Chief Minister.

Draft Public Employees (Retirement) (Amendment and Validation) (Jersey) Law 201-.  P.159/2013. Lodged: 10th December 2013.

States Employment Board.

Draft Restriction on Smoking (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Law 2013 (Appointed Day)  P.161/2013. Act 201-.

Lodged: 11th December 2013.

Minister for Health and Social Services.

Draft Restriction on Smoking (Vending Machines) (Jersey) Regulations 201-.  P.162/2013. Lodged: 11th December 2013.

Minister for Health and Social Services.

(Cannot be debated until 22nd January 2014)

4th February 2013

Draft Public Finances (Amendment of Law No. 1) (Jersey) Regulations 201-.  P.133/2013. Lodged: 24th October 2013.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

(Principles adopted 11th December 2013)

Elected Speaker of the States.  P.160/2013. Lodged: 10th December 2013.

Connétable of St. Helier .

Compliments of the season (see Official Report)

The Deputy Bailiff exchanged compliments of the season with all members, represented by Senator Paul Francis Routier on behalf of the Senators, the Connétable of St. Helier on behalf of the Connétable s, and Deputy Robert Charles Duhamel of St. Saviour on behalf of the Deputies.

THE STATES rose at 5.25 p.m.

M.N. DE LA HAYE Greffier of the States