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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 10th September 2014, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , William James Bailhache , Esquire.
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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson – en défaut (défaut raised at 11.07 a.m.) Connétable Stephen William Pallett of St. Brelade – ill
Deputy Jacqueline Ann Hilton of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.38 a.m.) Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade – en défaut (défaut raised at 10.05 a.m.) Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier – excused attendance
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Prayers
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Notification of lodged propositions
Vote of No Confidence: Minister for Treasury and Resources. P.148/2014. Lodged: 10th September 2014.
Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier .
Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier – excused attendance
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Roy George Le Hérissier of St. Saviour , made in accordance with Standing Order 53(3), agreed that the reason for the absence of Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier was such that he should be excused attendance.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 29 CONTRE: 15 ABSTAIN: 2
Senator A. Breckon
Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.M. Bailhache
Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy of Trinity
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Connétable of St. Peter
479 Price code: C
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H) Deputy N.B. Le Cornu (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Survivor's Benefit: repeal of 2012 changes P.122/2014
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier regarding the repeal of changes made in 2012 to Survivor's Benefit (P.122/2014)
Roll Call
The Deputy Bailiff , in accordance with Standing Order 56(2), directed that elected members be summoned as the Assembly was inquorate. In accordance with Standing Order 56(2), having allowed such time as he considered reasonable for elected members to return to the Chamber, the Presiding Officer asked the Greffier to call the roll, as he believed that the States remained inquorate. The following members were present in the Chamber for this second roll call –
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator A. Breckon
Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. John Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Peter Deputy R.J. Rondel (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Survivor's Benefit: repeal of 2012 changes P.122/2014
THE STATES, having resumed consideration of a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier , rejected his proposal to refer to their Act dated 6th December 2012 in which they approved the Social Security (Amendment of Law No. 4) (Jersey) Regulations 2012 and agreed, inter alia, to restrict access to survivor's benefit to those surviving spouses or civil partners who had the care of a child or who had attained the age of 55 before the commencement date of Part 5 of the Regulations, namely 1st January 2013; and
- to agree that the measures relating to survivor's benefit approved in December 2012 should be repealed and that the benefit should be restored without conditions in the form previously set out in Article 24 of the Social Security (Jersey) Law 1974 pending a full consultation through a Green Paper process on the subject;
- to request the Minister for Social Security to bring forward the necessary legislation to give effect to the proposal in paragraph (a) and to take the necessary steps to commence the required consultation process.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 9 CONTRE: 37 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator A. Breckon Senator P.F. Routier Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Connétable of St. Lawrence Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Connétable of St. Ouen Senator S.C. Ferguson
Connétable of St. Saviour Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Senator I.J. Gorst
Deputy N.B. Le Cornu (H) Senator L.J. Farnham
Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Senator P.M. Bailhache
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of Grouville
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
Draft States of Jersey (Amendment No. 7) Law 2014 (Appointed Day) Act 201- P.131/2014
THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 10 of the States of Jersey (Amendment No. 7) Law 2014, made an Act entitled the States of Jersey (Amendment No. 7) Law 2014 (Appointed Day) Act 2014.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 29 CONTRE: 12 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Senator S.C. Ferguson Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Senator A.J.H. Maclean Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Senator B.I. Le Marquand Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Deputy of Grouville
Senator I.J. Gorst Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Senator L.J. Farnham Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator P.M. Bailhache Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C)
Connétable of St. Helier Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Connétable of Trinity Deputy N.B. Le Cornu (H)
Connétable of St. Clement Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Peter Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
Draft Amendment (No. 24) of the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey P.132/2014
THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 48 of the States of Jersey Law 2005, made Amendment (No. 24) of the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 37 CONTRE: 3 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator P.F. Routier Connétable of St. John Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Senator S.C. Ferguson Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham
Senator P.M. Bailhache
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of Grouville
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
Draft Amendment (No. 25) of the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey P.133/2014
THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 48 of the States of Jersey Law 2005, made Amendment (No. 25) of the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 44 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Jersey Innovation Fund: Board remuneration P.134/2014
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for Economic Development, referred to their Act dated 1st May 2013 in which they approved the establishment of the Jersey Innovation Fund and agreed the Revised Operational Terms of Reference April 2013, and agreed to vary the Revised Operational Terms of Reference so that Advisory Board members could be remunerated for their work.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 38 CONTRE: 5 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
Connétable of St. John
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy N.B. Le Cornu (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
States of Jersey Complaints Panel: appointment of Deputy Chairman P.142/2014
THE STATES, in accordance with Article 5(2) of the Administrative Decisions (Review) (Jersey) Law 1982, appointed Mr. Geoffrey George Crill as Deputy Chairman of the States of Jersey Complaints Panel for a period of 3 years.
Draft Public Elections (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.138/2014
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Public Elections (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 and 2.
THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 5A(8) and 7(4) of the Public Elections (Jersey) Law 2002, made Regulations entitled the Public Elections (Amendment No. 4) (Jersey) Regulations 2014.
Changes in Presidency
The Deputy Bailiff retired from the Chamber prior to consideration of the Draft Income Support (Special Payments) (Child Personal Care) (Jersey) Regulations 201- (P.135/2014) and the meeting continued under the presidency of Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, O.B.E., Greffier of the States.
Draft Income Support (Special Payments) (Child Personal Care) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.135/2014
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Income Support (Special Payments) (Child Personal Care) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 36 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 4.
THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 8 and 18 of the Income Support (Jersey) Law 2007, made Regulations entitled the Income Support (Special Payments) (Child Personal Care) (Jersey) Regulations 2014.
Draft Income Support (Amendment No. 12) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.136/2014
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Income Support (Amendment No. 12) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 4.
THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 5 and 18 of the Income Support (Jersey) Law 2007, made Regulations entitled the Income Support (Amendment No. 12) (Jersey) Regulations 2014.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 37 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
Draft Income Support (Special Payments) (Cold Weather Payments) (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.137/2014
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Income Support (Special Payments) (Cold Weather Payments) (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 and 2.
THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 8 and 18 of the Income Support (Jersey) Law 2007, made Regulations entitled the Income Support (Special Payments) (Cold Weather Payments) (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 2014.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 37 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
Draft Amendment (No. 26) of the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey P.139/2014
THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 48 of the States of Jersey Law 2005, made Amendment (No. 26) of the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey.
Social Security Tribunal: re-appointment of members P.145/2014
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for Social Security, re-appointed the following persons as members of the Social Security Tribunal, in pursuance of Article 33A of the Social Security (Jersey) Law 1974, further to a process overseen by the Jersey Appointments Commission, for a further 5 year period –
Mr. Stewart Hill Panel member Mrs. Judith Querée Panel member Mr. Geoff Esnouf Panel member
Changes in Presidency
Mr. Michael Nelson de la Haye, O.B.E., Greffier of the States, retired from the Chair following consideration of the proposition of the Minister for Social Security entitled Social Security Tribunal: re- appointment of members' (P.145/2014) and the meeting continued under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff .
Arrangement of public business
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier , agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of his proposition entitled Vote of No Confidence: Minister for Treasury and Resources' (P.148/2014) and to reconvene on 16th September 2014 as an additional continuation meeting to consider this matter.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 35 CONTRE: 7 ABSTAIN: 2
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. John
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H) Deputy N.B. Le Cornu (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Deputy of St. Martin
Connétable of Grouville Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Tuesday 16th March 2014 to consider the proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier entitled Vote of No Confidence: Minister for Treasury and Resources' (P.148/2014).
THE STATES rose at 3.31 p.m.
M.N. DE LA HAYE, O.B.E. Greffier of the States